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ProfX wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:20 pm Who made this fool Florida Surgeon General?

Oh yeah ... Gov. DeStupid.

Medical experts push back on Florida surgeon general’s new COVID-19 testing guidance
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2022 ... -guidance/

MIAMI – Trusted experts in the medical field are responding after Florida’s surgeon general said it’s unnecessary for people who don’t have symptoms to get tested for COVID-19.

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The governor also doubled down on the testing guidance from his new surgeon general, Dr. Joseph Ladapo.

Infectious disease expert Dr. Aileen Marty of Florida International University responded to the new recommendation by explaining why it is problematic at best.

“I feel that I am watching Rome burn and Nero is fiddling,” she said. “That is incredibly irresponsible, we have to know where the virus is and people who are positive have to behave knowing that they can spread this to others and that they must not do that.

“This talk of ‘natural immunity’ as if somehow or another putting the word ‘natural’ makes it better, that’s like standing in front of a hurricane and saying, ‘OK it’s natural’, let’s just let the wind take us.’ That is not good public health. Good public health is try and reduce the numbers of people who are infected, who are at risk, and reduce hospitalizations.”

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Dr. Joseph Ladapo of “America’s Frontline Doctors” is now in charge of public health in Florida
Dr. Joseph Ladapo, a member of the fringe medical group “American’s Frontline Doctors” and signer of the widely criticized Great Barrington Declaration, is Florida’s new Surgeon General, appointed because he agrees with the dubious COVID-19 policies of Gov. DeSantis and, like the Governor, allows ideology to trump science.
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/dr-jos ... n-florida/

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While obviously qualified in his particular area, it is equally obvious that he is not the most qualified person to head the public health agency of the country’s third largest state. In my view, the only reason he got the job is because DeSantis needed window dressing for his anti-science views on managing the state’s COVID response. In this regard, Dr. Ladapo is eminently qualified. Dr. Ladapo is both a member of the fringe medical group “America’s Frontline Doctors” and a signatory to the Great Barrington Declaration, which we’ll return to in a moment.

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The COVID pandemic has brought the kooks out of the woodwork and, in a crowded field, none kookier than Dr. Stella Immanuel, one of the founders of the fringe medical group, America’s Frontline Doctors, which is affiliated with the right-wing organization Tea Party Patriots Action. She has famously claimed that “tormenting spirits” are responsible for “serious gynecological problems” and impotence, and that “many women suffer from astral sex regularly”, “astral sex” being “the ability to project one’s spirit man into the victim’s body and have sex with it” which is “very common among Satanists”.

Dr. Immanuel was a speaker at an America’s Frontline Doctors-sponsored “White Coat Conference” held last year on the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court, although the Court had nothing to do with the event. She falsely claimed that hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and Zithromax were “cures” for COVID-19. (This and other misinformation caused a video of the event to be pulled from social media.) Also speaking was Dr. Simone Gold, who later distinguished herself by participating in the January 6th insurrection, going so far as to enter the Capitol Building, which had conveniently been opened up for her by thugs smashing through the windows and doors and overcoming the Capitol police. This got her both arrested and fired from her job. Among other crackpot statements, Dr. Gold has claimed that the COVID-19 vaccine is actually an “experimental, biological agent deceptively named a vaccine”.

And guess who else put in an appearance at the “Conference”? Florida’s new Surgeon General, Dr. Ladapo, himself a member of America’s Frontline Doctors.

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In his WSJ columns, Dr. Ladapo has continually flogged ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, writing as recently as September 16th that the evidence regarding these drugs is “unsettled”, citing (and linking to the website of) the self-declared Early COVID Care Experts group, because they “have reported low rates of hospitalization and death when using these therapies”. In other words, anecdotal evidence trumps clinical trials. The Early COVID Care Experts include (in addition to Dr. Ladapo himself), conspiracy theorist Dr. Peter McCollough, who falsely claimed that COVID vaccines have killed up to 50,000 people, that vaccines don’t protect against the delta variant, and there’s no clinical reason to go get vaccinated. He was recently sued by a Baylor University health system affiliate to stop him from claiming he is associated with that institution because of “irreparable reputational and business harm” to the institution.

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[from twitter]
https://twitter.com/i/status/1440428431523545091

Jay O'Brien@jayobtv
Remember this press conference on the steps of the Supreme Court - doctors touting hydroxychloroquine, prompting praise from then-President Trump and Google, Twitter, and Facebook to take the video down?

Florida’s new Surgeon General, Dr. Joseph Ladapo, was a speaker.
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We can't embed video here, but you'll see at the twitter link, 20sec of video of Ladapo speaking in front of the SCOTUS along with, among others, Dr. "Demon Seed" Stella Immanuel of "America's Frontline Doctors".
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ProfX wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:02 pm [from twitter]
https://twitter.com/i/status/1440428431523545091

Jay O'Brien@jayobtv
Remember this press conference on the steps of the Supreme Court - doctors touting hydroxychloroquine, prompting praise from then-President Trump and Google, Twitter, and Facebook to take the video down?

Florida’s new Surgeon General, Dr. Joseph Ladapo, was a speaker.
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We can't embed video here, but you'll see at the twitter link, 20sec of video of Ladapo speaking in front of the SCOTUS along with, among others, Dr. "Demon Seed" Stella Immanuel of "America's Frontline Doctors".
I was just going to say, Stella Immanuel's outfit.

He is very likely also another duped, colonized Evangelical like her. I know these types very well.
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good

But now more will die because of losing staff. What is certain is most of these folks getting fired value trump over life.
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Libertas wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:44 pm good

But now more will die because of losing staff. What is certain is most of these folks getting fired value trump over life.
Yes losing staff is becoming a major issue in a lot of sectors. Education, the cops, the firefighters, and we've got people like Nikole Hannah Jones throwing in with the right against teachers who are not down with being forced into classrooms without PPE, ventilation, and crowded classes.

I don't hate her and mostly support her work, but she is reminding me of why I dumped her and people like her on social media, years ago.

Ref: https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status ... 0158245894

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We have to be able to talk abtthe harms of remote learning in a society where vaccines are available for all teachers without being accused of being anti-union or anti-teacher. We can disagree on what is the best thing to do when there are no good options without that accusation.
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And then, she doubles down. She can be a real jerk on Twitter.
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Where is Zowie, he was right.

The admin should be doing far more, now.

Force companies to make everything like masks and drugs and so on.

Roll out hundreds of thousands test sites. MANDATORY lockdowns nationwide.

DAMMIT
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Libertas wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:53 pm Where is Zowie, he was right.

The admin should be doing far more, now.

Force companies to make everything like masks and drugs and so on.

Roll out hundreds of thousands test sites. MANDATORY lockdowns nationwide.

DAMMIT
I agree. The admin should be doing more. We have the capacity to throw a trillion dollars at the military, but not a pandemic, or teachers, firefighters, public servants, in a pandemic. Really?

And then you get all these a-holes insisting on still going out to bars, concerts, conferences...and then the antivaxx crowd. And the latter isn't all rightwing nutjobs, either. RFK Jr and rich whackodoodles like Gwenyth Paltrow and crunchy granola wellness/mindfulness/spirituality peddlers also have a lot to do with this.
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carmenjonze wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:01 pm I agree. The admin should be doing more. We have the capacity to throw a trillion dollars at the military, but not a pandemic, or teachers, firefighters, public servants, in a pandemic. Really?

And then you get all these a-holes insisting on still going out to bars, concerts, conferences...and then the antivaxx crowd. And the latter isn't all rightwing nutjobs, either. RFK Jr and rich whackodoodles like Gwenyth Paltrow and crunchy granola wellness/mindfulness/spirituality peddlers also have a lot to do with this.
WE are going back into lockdown mode, pretty much.

Joe and Garland have to stop worrying about what righty will say if they do any of the things they should be doing and are not.
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Libertas wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:11 pm WE are going back into lockdown mode, pretty much.
Oh we definitely are. Higher ed and public services aren't waiting on them, it's already happening.
Joe and Garland have to stop worrying about what righty will say if they do any of the things they should be doing and are not.
I wish they would, but they won't. Fine...people with some sense will do it ourselves.
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DeSatan, what an absolute disgrace


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/flori ... ar-AASxfZl

Floridians Furious as Ron DeSantis Confirms 1 Million COVID Tests Expired in Warehouse

Floridians have expressed outrage after Gov. Ron DeSantis' administration confirmed as many as one million COVID-19 tests expired in a Florida warehouse.

During a press briefing, Florida Department of Emergency Management Director Kevin Guthrie told reporters that the kits sat in a warehouse during the fall when demand was low.
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Libertas wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:21 pm DeSatan, what an absolute disgrace


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/flori ... ar-AASxfZl




A vote for any republican is a vote to end the human race.
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ProfX wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:02 pm [from twitter]
https://twitter.com/i/status/1440428431523545091

Jay O'Brien@jayobtv
Remember this press conference on the steps of the Supreme Court - doctors touting hydroxychloroquine, prompting praise from then-President Trump and Google, Twitter, and Facebook to take the video down?

Florida’s new Surgeon General, Dr. Joseph Ladapo, was a speaker.
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We can't embed video here, but you'll see at the twitter link, 20sec of video of Ladapo speaking in front of the SCOTUS along with, among others, Dr. "Demon Seed" Stella Immanuel of "America's Frontline Doctors".
The same way with hospital administrators and staffing just as crazy and dangerous but for decades. The covid is revealing the crazy elite, showing us that it's not the have not hierarchy weve been led to believe. look at the position that decades of irrational and irresponsible and opportunistic staffing schemes have put us in.

We are really at a breaking point,' Beaumont Health doctor says of COVID-19 surge
.....Strained workers, who have been on the front lines treating patients for nearly two years, are exhausted, but their work is far from over as the surge pushes on, driving up cases and hospitalizations, including among children.

“We have an obligation to take care of the COVID patients,” said Dr. Jeffrey Fischgrund, Beaumont Health's chief of clinical services. But the health system also must be able to take care of people who’ve been injured in car accidents, those who’ve had heart attacks and other illnesses.....
Nearly 700 Henry Ford employees test positive for COVID as hospitalization rates increase
Henry Ford Health said around 686 employees have tested positive for COVID and are unable to work right now, that’s about 2% the total number of staff.

Sick workers are required to quarantine for seven days after their first symptoms but if staffing gets any worse the health system will drop that down to five days as per CDC guidance........
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My teen grandsons all have it. They are sick, but getting better I think.

Thank god we were not in contact with them recently. My wife ALMOST gave them a ride the other day but I interfered.

I just cancelled my plumber coming to fix a running toilet and I mentioned that we had no symptoms, that I assumed he also did not or please tell me and that if he had been around anyone with any type of symptoms, to not come yet. I went out of the way to say even if you think it is a cold and sure enough he texted back that his mother (I think they all live together) had cold symptoms so he would postpone for a few days. I thanked him for his consideration.
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Libertas wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:35 pm My teen grandsons all have it. They are sick, but getting better I think.

Thank god we were not in contact with them recently. My wife ALMOST gave them a ride the other day but I interfered.

I just cancelled my plumber coming to fix a running toilet and I mentioned that we had no symptoms, that I assumed he also did not or please tell me and that if he had been around anyone with any type of symptoms, to not come yet. I went out of the way to say even if you think it is a cold and sure enough he texted back that his mother (I think they all live together) had cold symptoms so he would postpone for a few days. I thanked him for his consideration.
Please extend my best wishes to your Grandsons.
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Libertas wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:35 pm My teen grandsons all have it. They are sick, but getting better I think.

Thank god we were not in contact with them recently. My wife ALMOST gave them a ride the other day but I interfered.

I just cancelled my plumber coming to fix a running toilet and I mentioned that we had no symptoms, that I assumed he also did not or please tell me and that if he had been around anyone with any type of symptoms, to not come yet. I went out of the way to say even if you think it is a cold and sure enough he texted back that his mother (I think they all live together) had cold symptoms so he would postpone for a few days. I thanked him for his consideration.
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Neal Gorsuch today at SC...idiot.

Wont wear a mask, says HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS die each year from the flu so Covid no big deal

W R O N G

this is a fucking SC justice, think about that


12,000 a year up to the worst year in modern history 52,000, something like that. As Thom Hartmann said, we have a SC justice who gets his science from FOX NEWS :twisted:
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Libertas wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:35 pm My teen grandsons all have it. They are sick, but getting better I think.

Thank god we were not in contact with them recently. My wife ALMOST gave them a ride the other day but I interfered.

I just cancelled my plumber coming to fix a running toilet and I mentioned that we had no symptoms, that I assumed he also did not or please tell me and that if he had been around anyone with any type of symptoms, to not come yet. I went out of the way to say even if you think it is a cold and sure enough he texted back that his mother (I think they all live together) had cold symptoms so he would postpone for a few days. I thanked him for his consideration.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:22 pm Oh nooo, so sorry to hear this!
Same. Hope they're feeling better fast.
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The Texas GOP, which is mainstream, just posted this vile tweet

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If you can wait in line for a covid test, you can wait in line to vote.

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Mark Hamill knows the duty of the Jedi Way. He can't let this planet fall to the Sith Lord and his Apprentices.

As for the Texas GOP, I hope they sent that out to all the Republican voters who voted by mail in 2020. It was a lot, BTW.

Seems to me politicians might work on making sure voters have enough polling places so that there are not long lines to vote, even outside of a pandemic, but I guess these are new days where politicians prefer to mock voters instead.

Heck, you might even want to make sure the promise that there would be enough home testing kits so people DON'T have to wait on long testing lines; but P.S. yes I will ding both parties on it. But at least the Dems & Biden aren't sending that stuff out.

Just hope the voters remember in 2022, what that party thinks of them.
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Turns out two of my three grandsons are sick aren’t sure if the third one will get sick or not, the two who are sick have described hell on earth, head pounding like it’s full of blood one of them described it as couldn’t look at anything the pain in the eyes and head was too much, horrible cough bodyaches terrible terrible bodyaches

One of them is getting tested right now the other one in a few days, it seems that they are improving which is a good sign but I can’t imagine if it was me or my wife as old as we are… yes they are both vaccinated but not boostered.

Thanks for everyone’s concern.
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