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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:12 am No you have no reading comprehension. You ya the GOP Presidents, that will always be ranked at the very bottom. Obama and Biden will be ranked high. Your President were a disaster why should we want more of the same?
You are welcome to your opinion. I don’t share it.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:12 am No you have no reading comprehension. You ya the GOP Presidents, that will always be ranked at the very bottom. Obama and Biden will be ranked high. Your President were a disaster why should we want more of the same?
Anyone who would say or believe that history will rank Biden high is 100pct partisan.
Biden is a train wreck our economy is a mess. Inflation is at 50 year highs. The border is a sieve. Interest rates are way up.
China is flexing its military muscle challenging US ships.
Putin is threatening nuclear war. Oil and gas prices off the chain.
Biden is a weak and ineffective leader which our enemies and allies are taking advantage of.
Again only a person who is 100pct partisan would say or believe he is doing even an average job.
The only positive thing that can be said about his performance is he is better than trump.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:54 am Anyone who would say or believe that history will rank Biden high is 100pct partisan.
Biden is a train wreck our economy is a mess. Inflation is at 50 year highs. The border is a sieve. Interest rates are way up.
China is flexing its military muscle challenging US ships.
Putin is threatening nuclear war. Oil and gas prices off the chain.
Biden is a weak and ineffective leader which our enemies and allies are taking advantage of.
Again only a person who is 100pct partisan would say or believe he is doing even an average job.
The only positive thing that can be said about his performance is he is better than trump.
you know the border is always a sieve when Dems are in power. It’s your talking points, nothing more.

I guess we should have Trump in charge of Putin. I’d rather have Biden’s hand on the wheel that ANY Republican.

He’s far better than Trump OR Bush Jr.

And the GOP House is a dumpster fire. Just ask Mitch McConnell. That’s why he did so many bills with the Dems before MTG took over.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:13 am You are welcome to your opinion. I don’t share it.
So you think Bush Jr. and Trump were better? We gave Jr. a strong economy and he left us a banking system in meltdown. Worst since the Great Depression.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:26 am So you think Bush Jr. and Trump were better? We gave Jr. a strong economy and he left us a banking system in meltdown. Worst since the Great Depression.
Read my last sentence and try and work on your reading comprehension.

As for a comparison to W that would be the closest comparison. Both were and are lousy just in different areas.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:31 am Read my last sentence and try and work on your reading comprehension.

As for a comparison to W that would be the closest comparison. Both were and are lousy just in different areas.
No, Bush was far worse. But you worship him so you pretend otherwise.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:25 am you know the border is always a sieve when Dems are in power. It’s your talking points, nothing more.

I guess we should have Trump in charge of Putin. I’d rather have Biden’s hand on the wheel that ANY Republican.

He’s far better than Trump OR Bush Jr.

And the GOP House is a dumpster fire. Just ask Mitch McConnell. That’s why he did so many bills with the Dems before MTG took over.
Of course you prefer Biden over any republican you want a one party government. Where the minority has no voice.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:26 am So you think Bush Jr. and Trump were better? We gave Jr. a strong economy and he left us a banking system in meltdown. Worst since the Great Depression.
I already told you what I thought of Trump. And you say I have an issue with reading comprehension. And yeah, I thought GWB did an okay job. Not the best in history but I would vote for him over Obama or Biden.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:26 am So you think Bush Jr. and Trump were better? We gave Jr. a strong economy and he left us a banking system in meltdown. Worst since the Great Depression.
We gave W a strong economy
Biden has nothing to do with the economy

Do you see a hint of hypocrisy
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:55 am We gave W a strong economy
Biden has nothing to do with the economy

Do you see a hint of hypocrisy
Biden was given an economy trashed by Trump and COVID. A worldwide inflation problem. Yet you blame that on Biden.

Bush didn’t have anything worldwide to cause his crash. But Obama had to fix it. Without any GOP votes.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:55 am We gave W a strong economy
Biden has nothing to do with the economy

Do you see a hint of hypocrisy
The banking problems that caused the 2008/2009 meltdown were years in the making and stretched across multiple administrations. Derivative investments that are difficult to understand and value were nothing new. People warned of that danger in the Clinton administration and the warnings continued into the Bush administration. The problem was that it was the perfect storm. Everyone was making money. Everyone was getting a loan. Everyone was getting a house. So no one wanted it to stop. Not Republicans. Not Democrats. So yeah, it was a failure of government and regulation shared by the executive branch and the legislative branch over multiple administrations.

I have friends in the apartment business and they were having to call applicants to let them know their credit wasn’t good enough to rent an apartment only to learn that the applicant later qualified to buy a home.

You would think we would learn from such mistakes. But lessons learned are soon forgotten. Crypto is the latest lesson on investing in something you can’t easily value.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:37 am The banking problems that caused the 2008/2009 meltdown were years in the making and stretched across multiple administrations. Derivative investments that are difficult to understand and value were nothing new. People warned of that danger in the Clinton administration and the warnings continued into the Bush administration. The problem was that it was the perfect storm. Everyone was making money. Everyone was getting a loan. Everyone was getting a house. So no one wanted it to stop. Not Republicans. Not Democrats. So yeah, it was a failure of government and regulation shared by the executive branch and the legislative branch over multiple administrations.

I have friends in the apartment business and they were having to call applicants to let them know their credit wasn’t good enough to rent an apartment only to learn that the applicant later qualified to buy a home.

You would think we would learn from such mistakes. But lessons learned are soon forgotten. Crypto is the latest lesson on investing in something you can’t easily value.
How funny. Biden is completely at fault but Bush wasn’t. Talk about hypocrisy.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:45 am How funny. Biden is completely at fault but Bush wasn’t. Talk about hypocrisy.
You have that backwards
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:47 am You have that backwards
Joe sez Bush wasn’t at fault, but Biden was. You arguing with JoeM?
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:16 am Biden was given an economy trashed by Trump and COVID. A worldwide inflation problem. Yet you blame that on Biden.

Bush didn’t have anything worldwide to cause his crash. But Obama had to fix it. Without any GOP votes.
Maybe you heard of this little event called 911
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:48 am Maybe you heard of this little event called 911
The banking meltdown was years later.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:45 am How funny. Biden is completely at fault but Bush wasn’t. Talk about hypocrisy.
That is not what I posted. Once again, you are the one who can’t read.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:48 am Joe sez Bush wasn’t at fault, but Biden was. You arguing with JoeM?
GoU will end the year as he started. Lying. No have no doubt next year will be the same.
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Trump’s tax details are being released today.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:52 am GoU will end the year as he started. Lying. No have no doubt next year will be the same.
Your statements, not mine.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:53 am Your statements, not mine.
Well then you should be able to point to where I made the statement that Bush had no part? No blame. Point it out.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:55 am We gave W a strong economy
Biden has nothing to do with the economy

Do you see a hint of hypocrisy
Uhhmmmmm..See the problem there?

Clinton gave Jr. a balanced budget. There's even a rumor on the right that Clinton had nothing to do with the balanced budget. Apparently Clinton benefited from the Bush 1 tax hikes. [chuckle]

Right now, we have no idea what kind of economy Biden will hand off someday.

Now if we consider the big picture......

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped ... inflation/
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Check out the countries with low inflation. They come in somewhere between 6 an 8 percent. Ya have England coming in around 11%. Then ya have the rest of them ranging from 20 to 103%. We are at 7.7 and holding our own. I'll take that. Not bad for a world wide crisis.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:55 am Well then you should be able to point to where I made the statement that Bush had no part? No blame. Point it out.
You’re the one that absolved him, saying it was many administrations and a perfect storm. But of course the current situation just Biden alone.
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gounion wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:57 am You’re the one that absolved him, saying it was many administrations and a perfect storm. But of course the current situation just Biden alone.
I didn’t absolve him. Show it. Many administrations include Bush. A perfect storm isn’t absolution. It was a failure of government and a failure of leadership that is shared by multiple administrations and the executive as well as legislative branch. I remember numerous warnings in the media surrounding derivative investments which including sub prime loans. And nothing was done. Why? No one wanted to stop that gravy train because at the time everyone was getting what they wanted. Developers, real estate agents, investors, and low income people who were buying housss and getting loans they could not afford. Nobody in government was going to put a stop to that although that was precisely what was needed. It lasted until it blew up in everyone’s face.

So yeah, it was a massive failure of government. Last I checked, POTUS is part of government. Just in case you aren’t keeping up with current events.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:17 am I didn’t absolve him. Show it. Many administrations include Bush. A perfect storm isn’t absolution. It was a failure of government and a failure of leadership that is shared by multiple administrations and the executive as well as legislative branch. I remember numerous warnings in the media surrounding derivative investments which including sub prime loans. And nothing was done. Why? No one wanted to stop that gravy train because at the time everyone was getting what they wanted. Developers, real estate agents, investors, and low income people who were buying housss and getting loans they could not afford. Nobody in government was going to put a stop to that although that was precisely what was needed. It lasted until it blew up in everyone’s face.

So yeah, it was a massive failure of government. Last I checked, POTUS is part of government. Just in case you aren’t keeping up with current events.
What a load of bullshit. You show how big a lie your attack on Biden is. You voted for Bush - twice - when he was a dumpster fire of a President. He was a disaster and it took a Democrat - Barack Obama - to fix the disaster that Bush gave him.
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