The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

[Libertas]

DeSatan steps up his effort to kill more children, masks are now optional in school.

[marindem01]

Austria Starts COVID Lockdown....But Only For Unvaccinated People.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... ted-people.

[Number6]

Governor Newsom has extended his emergency powers dealing with COVID-19 until March 2022.

On Nov. 10, California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed an order allowing his emergency powers to remain in place until March 2022.

California has been under a state of emergency since March 4, 2020. Since then, Newsom has authorized billions of dollars in emergency spending and issued at least 47 executive orders to alter or suspend 200 state laws and regulations because of the virus, according to a resolution authored by Republican state senators.

"The Emergency Proclamation recognizes that local jurisdictions cannot combat COVID-19 on their own, so it provides the state administrative flexibility to respond swiftly to the crisis and ensures we can support locals in their response to the pandemic. Moreover, it allows California to continue coordinating with FEMA on a number of ongoing programs, like vaccinations and testing, which is especially important as the state continues vaccinating millions of people every week."

Newsom can end the state of emergency himself. The state Legislature can also end it by passing a concurrent resolution.
KSBW

[rainwater]

unvaccd humans are getting sick and dying.

there are fewer and fewer places they can go unvaccd.

they are rounding themselves up.

[Drak]

unvaccd humans are getting sick and dying.

there are fewer and fewer places they can go unvaccd.

they are rounding themselves up.

[marindem01]

unvaccd humans are getting sick and dying.

there are fewer and fewer places they can go unvaccd.

they are rounding themselves up.

To borrow from Dickens, "Better They Should Die Now and Decrease The Surplus Population." I am fed up with these people and endless and totally mindless conspiracy theories regarding Vaccinations.

[rainwater]

drak...who is that guy....

[Motor City]

Michigan seeing highest COVID case numbers in US

Michigan is once again leading the nation with the highest number of daily new COVID-19 cases, and experts don’t see an end in sight anytime soon.

Coronavirus infections have been on the rise throughout the state since July. Not all health experts agree that Michigan is seeing its fourth COVID “surge” right now, but the latest numbers certainly rival those seen during the surges earlier this spring and last fall.

There is a noticeable difference this time around, however: The number of infections have risen consistently over the last four months, a sustained growth, as opposed to spiking and then dropping over a shorter span of time. With that said, health experts say the numbers are only going to increase from here as people move inside during the cold winter months, and as people gather for the holidays.

That means covid infections are rising as peoples unemployment cut off and the evictions officially resume.

[sam lefthand]

drak...who is that guy....

Rain, it's Charles Darwin. A fitting image I think to go with your post.



I chuckled when I saw Drak had put it there.

[ZoWie]

The problem is that the covid has precipitated a mental health crisis. From what I can see, we are approaching a failure of nerve of historic proportions, ranking with the great plagues of history in the effect upon civilization. I don't need people with degrees to tell me there's a problem.

Right here, there's been a lot of emotional strain regarding on what to do on Thanksgiving. People in this family are dug into their positions and nobody will budge on who should travel, how many unmasked people should be together, and all that. It results in constant tension because nobody can get everything they think they're owed by the simple traditional order of things.

There's a month and a half of this holiday stuff still to go. Right now, it appears that the drama will just get worse for at least another month. Then the case numbers and all those other ominous constantly droning statistics and resulting warnings will be months dying back down to the normal level. All this brings out all the other problems and makes them worse. Again.

Everyone else that I can think of has their own mental health effects, and they're all different but equally wearing. All the little stuff gets huge, and the background assumptions that make any human interaction possible are being threatened.

How do we address this?

[Libertas]

I play poker online, for now it is play money, not legal with real money in my state.

The site wont allow me to type the word Covid in the comments, even if I space it out.

Covid is controversial, S I G H

[Number6]

Some in Italy thought it was a good idea to have a COVID-19 party to get COVID immunity instead of getting vaccinated. Now, one party goes is dead and others are in intensive care.

A prosecutor in the northern Italian province of Bolzano has opened an investigation after one man died and several others landed in intensive care after they reportedly attended a COVID party to try to get sick.

The trend has taken hold in northern Italy, where people who don’t want to get vaccinated are trying to get COVID to acquire a Green Pass to work, go inside bars and restaurants, and ride public transportation. In Italy, proof of recovery is sufficient to get the coveted pass for six months.

At the parties, the infected mingle, kiss, and hug the unvaccinated in order to spread the virus, Franzoni said, adding the infected person could face criminal charges for knowingly spreading the virus during a state of emergency, which Italy is under because of the pandemic. According to the initial investigation, some of the parties are being held in outdoor areas of bars, which are accessible without a Green Pass. There, an infected person will drink out of a glass or bottle of beer and pass it around to try to spread the virus. Other events are held in private homes. In one case, the infected person was bedridden and the guests are said to have gathered around the sickbed to try to breathe in the virus.
Daily Beast

There's a word to describe these people, it's on the tip of my tongue. It's, it's....oh yeah, Covidiot.

[Number6]

How long does it take for the booster shot to work?

According to Dr. Dan Barouch, director of the Center for Virology and Vaccine Research at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, it takes just a few day. For the full effectiveness two weeks.

Dr. Dan Barouch, director of the Center for Virology and Vaccine Research at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, told ABC News that the body will start to increase antibodies within a few days of the shot.

But you will still need two weeks for peak immunity to return.
“There is a meaningful increase in antibody titers by one week and peak responses at two weeks following mRNA boosting,” Barouch said.

“The booster shot will have a similar response as the second dose of the primary series. The highest antibody level will be around 10-14 days and then things will level off. The antibody levels will decline as it would with all vaccines, however the boosters help to stabilize the antibody levels,” Barouch said.
MSN

[Number6]

If this wasn't so serious, it would be funny.

Seven doctors contract Covid after attending Florida anti-vaccine summit

Seven anti-vaccine doctors fell sick after gathering earlier this month for a Florida “summit” at which alternative treatments for Covid-19 were discussed.

“I have been on ivermectin for 16 months, my wife and I,” Dr Bruce Boros told attendees at the event held at the World Equestrian Center in Ocala, adding: “I have never felt healthier in my life.”

The 71-year-old cardiologist and staunch anti-vaccine advocate contracted Covid-19 two days later, according to the head event organizer, Dr John Littell.
MSN

[Drak]

If this wasn't so serious, it would be funny.

Seven doctors contract Covid after attending Florida anti-vaccine summit

Wow. Even some doctors are complete morons. If you’re anti science, maybe being in the medical profession is not for you.

[Libertas]

Dr. Fauci: People Weaponizing Lies About The Coronavirus Are Killing People - The Beat - MSNBC

https://youtu.be/z43onGU9ul4

Dr. Fauci: Tucker Carlson’s Personal Attacks Are A Badge Of Honor - The Beat - MSNBC

https://youtu.be/vURsft2Zq40


I wish people would stop killing us. Including those here who support cons.

[ap215]

New COVID-19 variant detected in South Africa, scientists say

A new COVID-19 variant of "serious concern" has been detected in South Africa, scientists said at a press conference on Thursday.

"Here is a mutation variant of serious concern," South African Health Minister Joe Phaahla said at the media briefing, Bloomberg reported. "We were hopeful that we might have a longer break in between waves - possibly that it would hold off to late December or even next year January."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... 211125_2_2

[bradman]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota-ho ... 01240.html
Minnesota hospitals overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients amid surge in new cases

Hospitals in Minnesota are dealing with an overwhelming number of COVID-19 patients. Nearly 9,000 patients are in the ICU, and many hospitals can no longer accept new patients. CBS Minnesota's Caroline Cummings joins CBSN's Tanya Rivero to discuss.

Mom fell and screwed up her knee. When we arrived at Urgent Care they had one whole section blocked off, packed, and isolated for respiratory problems. I'd say half children and half adults. Those that didn't have respiratory problems were spread out and overflowed into the hallway. While there we witnessed 2 being taken away by Ambulance. i didn't like being there. Anyway, we spent 5 hours in urgent care for an x-ray that showed no broken bones, and the ligaments all seem to be intact. The doctor was worried about what may look like a tibial plateau fracture that may.... or may.. not be there as the x-ray was somewhat clouded by arthritis and calcium deposits. He suggested Emergency care and a CT.

It was while checking in at Emergency that we were told it would be at least a 3 to 4 hour wait just to be seen. Since she hadn't eaten, was due for her medication, and in general hates hospitals i let her bail with the agreement we'd try again after dialysis the next day. Next day we were told it'd be about an hour's wait. Fine, but as they were being over run by covid cases i would have to wait in the car until she was put in a room. While sitting in the car i watched a fairly decent stream of people checking in, 3 or 4 via Ambulance. When i went to check on her at the hour mark i was greeted by an emergency team that was working on an elderly lady that had passed out and fallen out of her wheel chair over in the corner of the waiting room. Looking around the now crowded room i couldn't spot Mom, and was hoping they had her in a room. So, i checked with the receptionist and found out, no, she wasn't and it would now be at least a 3 hour wait. In the mean time Mom had heard my voiced and had hobbled her wheel chair from around a divider. I could see it in her eyes and she didn't even have to say it, "Bring me home now." So i did.

Next plan of attack......Get hold of her primary doctor and try to get her to schedule an emergency CT scan and an appointment outside the hospital with a bone specialist.

[sam lefthand]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota-ho ... 01240.html
Minnesota hospitals overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients amid surge in new cases


Mom fell and screwed up her knee. When we arrived at Urgent Care they had one whole section blocked off, packed, and isolated for respiratory problems. I'd say half children and half adults. Those that didn't have respiratory problems were spread out and overflowed into the hallway. While there we witnessed 2 being taken away by Ambulance. i didn't like being there. Anyway, we spent 5 hours in urgent care for an x-ray that showed no broken bones, and the ligaments all seem to be intact. The doctor was worried about what may look like a tibial plateau fracture that may.... or may.. not be there as the x-ray was somewhat clouded by arthritis and calcium deposits. He suggested Emergency care and a CT.

It was while checking in at Emergency that we were told it would be at least a 3 to 4 hour wait just to be seen. Since she hadn't eaten, was due for her medication, and in general hates hospitals i let her bail with the agreement we'd try again after dialysis the next day. Next day we were told it'd be about an hour's wait. Fine, but as they were being over run by covid cases i would have to wait in the car until she was put in a room. While sitting in the car i watched a fairly decent stream of people checking in, 3 or 4 via Ambulance. When i went to check on her at the hour mark i was greeted by an emergency team that was working on an elderly lady that had passed out and fallen out of her wheel chair over in the corner of the waiting room. Looking around the now crowded room i couldn't spot Mom, and was hoping they had her in a room. So, i checked with the receptionist and found out, no, she wasn't and it would now be at least a 3 hour wait. In the mean time Mom had heard my voiced and had hobbled her wheel chair from around a divider. I could see it in her eyes and she didn't even have to say it, "Bring me home now." So i did.

Next plan of attack......Get hold of her primary doctor and try to get her to schedule an emergency CT scan and an appointment outside the hospital with a bone specialist.

I'm sorry to hear that Bradman.

My mom had a CT scan scare last month. She went in for a scan and after waiting a long time, just before it was her turn they diagnosed someone with Covid using the CT machine to do that.

That meant the machine was contaminated so they sent her home until the next day because they had to decontaminate the room and the CT machine.

[ap215]

Bryan Adams tests positive for COVID in Italy

MILAN (AP) — Bryan Adams tested positive for COVID-19 upon arrival at Milan’s Malpensa Airport on Thursday, ahead of the unveiling of the 2022 Pirelli calendar that he photographed.

The Canadian rock ‘n roller disclosed the positive test in an Instagram post that included a photograph of him in a room after being tested and then sitting in an ambulance, being taken for a more reliable PCR test. He was seated normally, wearing a surgical mask.

https://www.aol.com/bryan-adams-tests-p ... 13437.html

[Glennfs]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota-ho ... 01240.html
Minnesota hospitals overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients amid surge in new cases


Mom fell and screwed up her knee. When we arrived at Urgent Care they had one whole section blocked off, packed, and isolated for respiratory problems. I'd say half children and half adults. Those that didn't have respiratory problems were spread out and overflowed into the hallway. While there we witnessed 2 being taken away by Ambulance. i didn't like being there. Anyway, we spent 5 hours in urgent care for an x-ray that showed no broken bones, and the ligaments all seem to be intact. The doctor was worried about what may look like a tibial plateau fracture that may.... or may.. not be there as the x-ray was somewhat clouded by arthritis and calcium deposits. He suggested Emergency care and a CT.

It was while checking in at Emergency that we were told it would be at least a 3 to 4 hour wait just to be seen. Since she hadn't eaten, was due for her medication, and in general hates hospitals i let her bail with the agreement we'd try again after dialysis the next day. Next day we were told it'd be about an hour's wait. Fine, but as they were being over run by covid cases i would have to wait in the car until she was put in a room. While sitting in the car i watched a fairly decent stream of people checking in, 3 or 4 via Ambulance. When i went to check on her at the hour mark i was greeted by an emergency team that was working on an elderly lady that had passed out and fallen out of her wheel chair over in the corner of the waiting room. Looking around the now crowded room i couldn't spot Mom, and was hoping they had her in a room. So, i checked with the receptionist and found out, no, she wasn't and it would now be at least a 3 hour wait. In the mean time Mom had heard my voiced and had hobbled her wheel chair from around a divider. I could see it in her eyes and she didn't even have to say it, "Bring me home now." So i did.

Next plan of attack......Get hold of her primary doctor and try to get her to schedule an emergency CT scan and an appointment outside the hospital with a bone specialist.j

Sorry to hear about your mom, many of us whose parents were fortunate enough to make it to old age know exactly what you are going through.

[Bludogdem]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota-ho ... 01240.html
Minnesota hospitals overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients amid surge in new cases


Mom fell and screwed up her knee. When we arrived at Urgent Care they had one whole section blocked off, packed, and isolated for respiratory problems. I'd say half children and half adults. Those that didn't have respiratory problems were spread out and overflowed into the hallway. While there we witnessed 2 being taken away by Ambulance. i didn't like being there. Anyway, we spent 5 hours in urgent care for an x-ray that showed no broken bones, and the ligaments all seem to be intact. The doctor was worried about what may look like a tibial plateau fracture that may.... or may.. not be there as the x-ray was somewhat clouded by arthritis and calcium deposits. He suggested Emergency care and a CT.

It was while checking in at Emergency that we were told it would be at least a 3 to 4 hour wait just to be seen. Since she hadn't eaten, was due for her medication, and in general hates hospitals i let her bail with the agreement we'd try again after dialysis the next day. Next day we were told it'd be about an hour's wait. Fine, but as they were being over run by covid cases i would have to wait in the car until she was put in a room. While sitting in the car i watched a fairly decent stream of people checking in, 3 or 4 via Ambulance. When i went to check on her at the hour mark i was greeted by an emergency team that was working on an elderly lady that had passed out and fallen out of her wheel chair over in the corner of the waiting room. Looking around the now crowded room i couldn't spot Mom, and was hoping they had her in a room. So, i checked with the receptionist and found out, no, she wasn't and it would now be at least a 3 hour wait. In the mean time Mom had heard my voiced and had hobbled her wheel chair from around a divider. I could see it in her eyes and she didn't even have to say it, "Bring me home now." So i did.

Next plan of attack......Get hold of her primary doctor and try to get her to schedule an emergency CT scan and an appointment outside the hospital with a bone specialist.

I wonder if you could get her checked by an outpatient surgery center.

[gounion]

I wonder if you could get her checked by an outpatient surgery center.

The best way would be to work with your primary doctor and follow their advice, as they've already decided.

But hey, you know better, right?

[ZoWie]

I thought this thread would have something about the new variant. It provides convincing evidence that we're screwed, big time, if we keep waiting for it all to die down by itself. We need new coping strategies. Waiting for Godot is not going to adapt Western civilization to the new normal.

That's all. Adapt or lose civilization. My last word on the subject for a long time because I've had it with this cyclic thing thinking gee the economy will pick up and make us all rich any day now, followed by the inevitable oops, not this year.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.........

[gounion]

I thought this thread would have something about the new variant. It provides convincing evidence that we're screwed, big time, if we keep waiting for it all to die down by itself. We need new coping strategies. Waiting for Godot is not going to adapt Western civilization to the new normal.

That's all. Adapt or lose civilization. My last word on the subject for a long time because I've had it with this cyclic thing thinking gee the economy will pick up and make us all rich any day now, followed by the inevitable oops, not this year.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.........

Info just came out the last couple of days. It's certainly serious. We'll have to see how bad it is.

I am leaving Vegas today. It's surprising how heavily the mask regulations were followed. Everyone is wearing them here. All casinos and venues require them.