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ZoWie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:43 pm Perhaps they died of natural causes and washed up in places where they normally wouldn't, due to changes in ocean currents caused by climate change and La Nina. Time will tell.
Or they might have died because of that underwater oil pipeline spill.

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Dunno, they live very deep in the ocean, and the leaky pipe was in waters inside the US border, right off HB in the anchorage zone or too close to it.

FWIW, there's an oil sheen in the same place right now, and they are looking for the source. Those old wells are a menace, they don't make enough money for anyone to be worth the bother of maintaining them, and I suppose we will end up paying to plug and abandon them.
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ZoWie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:46 pm Dunno, they live very deep in the ocean, and the leaky pipe was in waters inside the US border, right off HB in the anchorage zone or too close to it.

FWIW, there's an oil sheen in the same place right now, and they are looking for the source. Those old wells are a menace, they don't make enough money for anyone to be worth the bother of maintaining them, and I suppose we will end up paying to plug and abandon them.
The teeth they have indicate that they are predators. Their food fish might be fish that swim to the surface and then down into the depths. The food fish could become contaminated and then that toxin could concentrate in the toothy predator fish.

They should test their flesh and organs to see if oil contamination killed them.
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‘Christmas comet’ to zip through evening sky, won't be back for 80,000 years

The 2020 holiday season featured a 'Christmas star' when Jupiter and Saturn appeared extremely close and shined together, and this year, stargazers are in for another gift as the brightest comet of 2021 races through the evening sky.

Comet C/2021 A1, more commonly referred to as comet Leonard, was discovered earlier this year and made its closest approach to the Earth on Dec. 12. Before its approach, it was visible only in the early morning sky, but its journey has now made it more prominent in the evening sky, making it a target for backyard stargazers.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/space-ne ... ky/1110451
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ap215 wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:17 pm ‘Christmas comet’ to zip through evening sky, won't be back for 80,000 years

The 2020 holiday season featured a 'Christmas star' when Jupiter and Saturn appeared extremely close and shined together, and this year, stargazers are in for another gift as the brightest comet of 2021 races through the evening sky.

Comet C/2021 A1, more commonly referred to as comet Leonard, was discovered earlier this year and made its closest approach to the Earth on Dec. 12. Before its approach, it was visible only in the early morning sky, but its journey has now made it more prominent in the evening sky, making it a target for backyard stargazers.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/space-ne ... ky/1110451
great!..thanks for posting. i may, should, catch this in the earlier evening when VENUS is huge to the west currently.
its gone for now.
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ap215 wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:17 pm ‘Christmas comet’ to zip through evening sky, won't be back for 80,000 years

The 2020 holiday season featured a 'Christmas star' when Jupiter and Saturn appeared extremely close and shined together, and this year, stargazers are in for another gift as the brightest comet of 2021 races through the evening sky.

Comet C/2021 A1, more commonly referred to as comet Leonard, was discovered earlier this year and made its closest approach to the Earth on Dec. 12. Before its approach, it was visible only in the early morning sky, but its journey has now made it more prominent in the evening sky, making it a target for backyard stargazers.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/space-ne ... ky/1110451
The Christmas Comet won't be back for another 800,000 years and it looks like the skies in San Diego are going to be cloudy with rain so I'll probably miss it. On occasions like this I usually wait for it's return but since my life clock runs out in 764,283 years from now I guess I'm going to miss it completely. ;)
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ohyeh...theres always this.
dont even tell me the pols dont know about this. manchin has his yacht ready to flow to the ocean.
WVA peeps dont even ask why Manchin..lives on a fucking yacht.
the pols are well aware of this Threat. what would they do if...you...knew.

and sadly...the cray cray wingers will take this reality and turn it into violence towards others like
their own neighbors. let alone..anyone who can live while they see their own lives ...ending.
dont wonder where the violence comes from.

these realities are making more RW RWGs hide lie fake pretend fake distort disinfo.
they dont want the public aware of how extreme they have made life on This Planet.

scientists saying this timeline is...correct.
doomsday glacier.
https://nypost.com/2021/12/15/antarctic ... n-3-years/
Antarctica’s ‘doomsday glacier’ could collapse in 3 years, raise sea levels
By Yaron Steinbuch December 15, 2021

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... th-concern
Scientists watch giant ‘doomsday’ glacier in Antarctica with concern---
Cracks and fissures stoke fears of breakup that could lead to half-metre rise in global sea levels – or more
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let alone the amount of debris bought via online desires...then returned to the same outlets who dump returns to the dump.
we have a country of "shoppers" who dont know dont give a fuck and pols who dont GAF either.
gimme gimme. buy buy. dump dump.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/billion ... 42606.html
Billions of Dollars in Online Returns Is the Problem Retailers Don’t Need — But Must Contend With —
Sheena Butler-Young December 8, 2020·

https://www.bcg.com/publications/2018/t ... ste-crisis
Tackling the 1.6-Billion-Ton Food Loss and Waste Crisis---
August 20, 2018
...Tackling the 1.6-Billion-Ton Food Loss and Waste Crisis
August 20, 2018

The scale of the problem is staggering. Each year, 1.6 billion tons of food worth about $1.2 trillion are lost or go to waste—one-third of the total amount of food produced globally.1 To put the figure in perspective, that is ten times the mass of the island of Manhattan. And the problem is only growing: BCG estimates that by 2030 annual food loss and waste will hit 2.1 billion tons worth $1.5 trillion.

This massive misuse of resources is emerging as a critical global issue, with the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals setting a target of halving food loss and waste by 2030. The urgency reflects the fact that the food waste disaster has far-reaching implications. According to the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization and the World Resources Institute, it accounts for 8% of global greenhouse gas emissions. And it is difficult to imagine solving the hunger problem—some 870 million people around the world are undernourished—when so much of the global food supply is lost between the farm and the table.

https://nexusnewsfeed.com › article › self-sufficiency › staggering-scale-of-waste-billions-of-dollars-in-online-clothing-returns-go-straight-to-landfills
Even unsold items that haven’t been touched by a consumer are being trashed.
'Staggering' scale of waste: billions of dollars in online clothing returns go straight to landfills

Even unsold items that haven't been touched by a consumer are being trashed. We all know that consumerism is a force that's
destructive to the environment, but too frequently the blame is placed on cultural factors — for example, our ...
Those holiday returns come with a massive environmental ...

https://www.cbsnews.com › news › holiday-returns-evironmental-costs-shipping
In the U.S., the 5 billion pounds of returns sent to the dump is equivalent to three times the amount of trash produced by the
city of Seattle annually.
Industry watchers have yet to predict...

2017
https://money.cnn.com › 2017 › 12 › 26 › news › retail-returns-landfill › index.htm
There's a good chance your holiday returns will end up in a landfill
Dec 26, 2017The returns process has become even more complicated as people continue to shop online. The National Retail Federation estimates 15% to 30% of items bought online will be returned -- about $32...
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made earth into a sanctuary to which no one was aloud to go in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raTnglt_WFg
Instead, earth was used as a symbol for order to gaze at from afar while colonists on dying planets waited out their demise.
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Motor City wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:52 pm made earth into a sanctuary to which no one was aloud to go in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raTnglt_WFg
Instead, earth was used as a symbol for order to gaze at from afar while colonists on dying planets waited out their demise.
.."waiting out their demise"...
that sounds just like today. like the mayan culture which took at least...200-300yrs to FULLY demise with all sorta weird
cannabalisitic women slaughtering shit.

there was massive homosexuality back in the olden days of all early cultures. they slaughtered women AKA the mass
graves of women...as some form of "birth control".
men used one another as personal slaves since there were no births involved in cultures steadily failing due to over use of grazing
tree cuttings, over use of resources which women were blamed for cuz they gave birth to more mouths to feed and water.

what was simpler was to fuck the same sex: NO births.
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rainwater wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:10 pm .."waiting out their demise"...
that sounds just like today. like the mayan culture which took at least...200-300yrs to FULLY demise with all sorta weird
You have some really interesting ideas about ancient history.

Mayan civilization, if you count Preclassic to Conquest period, lasted about 4000 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization

Preclassic usually dated to around 2000 BCE. Conquest up to 1697 CE.

What most people call the "Classic Maya collapse" of the 9th century led to the depopulation of southern lowlands cities like Palenque and Tikal. However, others like Chichen Itza, Mayapan, and Uxmal were built after this "collapse". Some scholars prefer to call it a "relocation".

I personally wouldn't say Mayan civilization ended per se in 1697 either ... the Mayan calendar, which had Western people freaking out about the year 2012, even if most of the actual Maya weren't freaking ... is still in active use today. But they're not building things like Palenque or Chichen Itza anymore...

You are absolutely correct homosexuality was tolerated in ancient societies, but by both genders. You may have heard of this poetess Sappho, who lived on the island of Lesbos. And that's just the Greeks.

The Mayans were not cannibals. :D
https://study.com/academy/answer/were-m ... ibals.html

P.S. I guess I just bristle at this because I know some folks working with Mayan people today. Remember those Zapatista uprisings in Chiapas in 1994? Most of the leaders and participants were Yucatec Mayans.
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In October of this year, the Marin Watershed was at about 31% of its capacity. As of now, due the two very big storms we have had our Watershed is now at 50% of capacity. There is another Atmospheric River due in late tonight or early tomorrow, with rain lasting through Wednesday or Thursday. Estimates are of up 3 - 4 Inches falling on Marin. The storm is expected to stall as well More snow in the Sierra as well.

So much for a the dry winter we were told to expect.
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Still dry down here. Storms come, twice a week for the past couple of weeks, but only one made any consequential rain as opposed to brief showers or light drizzles. If the pattern persists, it will make a difference in the drought, but January always seems to be a very stable month here. The exposure of the bowl games and Rose Parade on TV used to sell a lot of SoCal real estate, since it was always so sunny.

They didn't tell you the part about how cold Pasadena is in the predawn hours when the important logistics for the parade happen. As often as not, it's near freezing. The sun rises really late, and the parade is really early (Pacific time). It's winter for sure.

Until image tech changed, the camera crews that showed the parade rented every carbon arc light in LA. Even the 350-amp DC Titan Molearcs. Those mofos were BRIGHT, and with the big Fresnel optical systems, they made nice parallel rays that looked like those from direct sunlight. It was always sunny in Pasadena.

(Do they even make arc carbons any more? I can run an arc, but I sure wouldn't know where to get them. Forget National Screen Service and Union Carbide. It all went to HMI and of course you can make great footage practically in the dark now.)

Of course now bowl games are a dime a dozen, and the middle class can't afford much of anything habitable that isn't an hour's drive from everything that's worth a damn in SoCal. And any idiot can telecast anything, however poorly, with a fricken phone.

But it's still always sunny in Pasadena...... not.................
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ZoWie wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:13 pm Still dry down here. Storms come, twice a week for the past couple of weeks, but only one made any consequential rain as opposed to brief showers or light drizzles. If the pattern persists, it will make a difference in the drought, but January always seems to be a very stable month here. The exposure of the bowl games and Rose Parade on TV used to sell a lot of SoCal real estate, since it was always so sunny.

They didn't tell you the part about how cold Pasadena is in the predawn hours when the important logistics for the parade happen. As often as not, it's near freezing. Until image tech changed, the camera crews that showed the parade rented every carbon arc light in LA. Even the 350-amp DC Titan Molearcs. Those mofos were BRIGHT, and with the big Fresnel optical systems, they made nice parallel rays that looked like those from direct sunlight. It was always sunny in Pasadena.

(Do they even make arc carbons any more? I can run an arc, but I sure wouldn't know where to get them. Forget National Screen Service and Union Carbide.)

Of course now bowl games are a dime a dozen, and the middle class can't afford much of anything habitable that isn't an hour's drive from everything that's worth a damn in SoCal. And any idiot can telecast anything, however poorly, with a fricken phone.

But it's still always sunny in Pasadena...... not.................
Way to cold for me in Pasadena. My cousin married a guy who wanted to live there. Bob refused and they live in Marina Del Rey.
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On 1/1, in Pasadena, at Rose Parade time, it's always sunny. Lighting has changed, now they throw small HMIs or even LED arrays at the parade, but mostly to simulate a key light and fill in the few shadows that might exist at that hour, Pacific time. At the two or three camera locations along the route, they keep it sunny in Pasadena. With digital's low noise pickup, video can be shot in practically the dark now. Movie magic is still with us.

It has actually rained, with actual water falling from the sky, once in the past 50 parades. There's still no lighting setup for that. The best filter is an umbrella. You just get wet, and that televises. But it's happened once in 50 years, probably longer. There has been drizzle for a few other parades, but absent everything being obviously soaked, it's still always sunny in Pasadena in the morning on 1/1.

You've probably been there and seen how it occupies a high spot, "The Crown of the Valley." It gets brrrrrrrrrrrrrr up there at night in the winter, right next to the mountains. When it does rain, the mud comes down. The summers are brutally hot and a strong inversion keeps the pollution backed up against the hills and essentially stagnant.

Marina Del Rey is expensive, and there's still the vestige of the original (and highly repellent) Marina Swinger scene, but it's pretty, convenient to transportation of all sorts, and generally a lot nicer.
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ZoWie wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:28 pm On 1/1, in Pasadena, at Rose Parade time, it's always sunny. Lighting has changed, now they throw small HMIs or even LED arrays at the parade, but mostly to simulate a key light and fill in the few shadows that might exist at that hour, Pacific time. At the two or three camera locations along the route, they keep it sunny in Pasadena. With digital's low noise pickup, video can be shot in practically the dark now. Movie magic is still with us.

It has actually rained, with actual water falling from the sky, once in the past 50 parades. There's still no lighting setup for that. The best filter is an umbrella. You just get wet, and that televises. But it's happened once in 50 years, probably longer. There has been drizzle for a few other parades, but absent everything being obviously soaked, it's still always sunny in Pasadena in the morning on 1/1.

You've probably been there and seen how it occupies a high spot, "The Crown of the Valley." It gets brrrrrrrrrrrrrr up there at night in the winter, right next to the mountains. When it does rain, the mud comes down. The summers are brutally hot and a strong inversion keeps the pollution backed up against the hills and essentially stagnant.

Marina Del Rey is expensive, and there's still the vestige of the original (and highly repellent) Marina Swinger scene, but it's pretty, convenient to transportation of all sorts, and generally a lot nicer.
Bob and Richard are pretty straight laced. Bob is vet and Richard is an Exec with one of the banks in L.A. (thankfully NOT Wells Fargo)

They have pretty nice Condo there.
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I just looked on Purple Air for the Air Quality in Marin City/Sausalito. It's pretty lousy, mainly due to all the wood smoke from people using their fire places. It has been gray and cold all day. Rain is due late tonight or tomorrow. Should get rid of the smoke in the air. Thankfully I do not need to go outside, with my Asthma it would like leaning into a right hook.
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marindem01 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:17 pm Way to cold for me in Pasadena. My cousin married a guy who wanted to live there. Bob refused and they live in Marina Del Rey.
People think Southern California is always sunny and warm but they'd be surprised how us locals think it is. During the summer it can be anywhere from warm (70s) to hot (90s plus). Spring is windy, cloudy, rainy, and mild (60s). The fall is warm and probably the best weather in that it's not to hot or cold nor is it too windy. Winter is cold for us in the high 40s and low 50s. I know people who live in snow country would consider temperatures in the 40s and 50s to be shorts and t-shirts weather but for us it's cold.

I've lived in the the Northeast, the South, the Southwest, South Korea, Germany, and England and for me the best weather is still in Southern California. I know there are people who love having four different seasons with snow in the winter but I'm long past that. Give me the warm weather over the cold weather.
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No tsunami risk after earthquake hits California coast, officials say

Dec. 20 (UPI) -- A magnitude 6.2 earthquake off the coast of California, setting off warning alarms Monday afternoon, but the U.S. Geological Survey said no risk of a tsunami existed.

The earthquake occurred off the coast of Humboldt County, about 25 miles west of Petrolia, according to scientists.

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"modern" man likes to pretend life, the world, civilizations didnt begin until jaysus, 2000yrs ago. they are wrong.
pre-maya ancients can be traced back 13,000BC. Minimum.

ill be long gone when they finally determine that Pangea split more recently and thus the number of "great floods"
civilizations experienced.


Did Paleoamericans Reach South America First? | Ancient ...
https://www.ancient-origins.net › opinion-guest-authors › did-paleoamericans-reach-south-america-first-006592
In summary, the land bridge between Siberia and Alaska was unviable before 13,000 BC. Even though man could not enter the Americas until after 14,000 years ago, man was probably in South America as early 100,000 years ago, according to Dr. Guidon's research in Brazil. The first people in the Americas are called PaleoAmericans.


https://sites.google.com › site › 100objectsbritishmuseum › home › clovis-spear-point
Clovis spear point. Making Us Human (2,000,000 - 9000 BC) Clovis point (made over 13,000 years ago). Stone spearhead found in Arizona.
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Lecture 28: Olmecs, Mayans and Teotihuacan - Mesoamerica ...
https://historiacivilizacionesingles.blogspot.com › 2008 › 08 › lecture-28-olmecs-mayans-and.html
There is sporadic evidence of cave dwellers that may date back as far as 21,000 BC, but by 13,000 BC a large wave of migration from Siberia began and these people dispersed quickly across the entire land mass. There is archeological evidence that by 9,500 BC human beings had reached the southern tip of South America, which amounts to a journey ...
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there is so much they havent even found yet. all has to be dug out, dug up, it all got covered in mud and dirt: how.

https://www.worldhistory.org/Maya_Civilization/
Maya Origins--
The history of Mesoamerica is usually divided into specific periods which, taken together, reveal the development of culture in the region and, for the purposes of this definition, the emergence and cultivation of the Maya Civilization.

The Archaic Period: 7000-2000 BCE – During this time a hunter-gatherer culture began to cultivate crops such as maize, beans and other vegetables and the domestication of animals (most notably dogs and turkeys) and plants became widely practiced. The first villages of the region were established during this period which included ....
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they didnt have enough resources then to support their society. of course they fried up
some of that meat on that dead body. across the merican west they ate all the horses they
could fry. when the sodbusters ran out of horse meat they died or moved to town.

the paleo genders were far more inclined to not mix for all the obvious reasons like violence and
births they did not want nor could provide for.
the men in most ancient civs seemed just fine separating from the women, the women seemed
quite fine separated from violent men.
none of them turned away from a side of "meat".

it does not surprize ancients did this. it does surprize the modern euros did it.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ ... -42642371/
Europe’s Hypocritical History of Cannibalism

From prehistory to the present with many episodes in between, the region has a surprisingly meaty history of humans eating humans
Sarah Everts April 24, 2013

The cannibalism at Moula-Guercy wasn’t an isolated incident in prehistory. In the past decade, researchers have reported other evidence that Neanderthals continued eating each other until just before their disappearance.

....By the 16th century, cannibalism was not just part of the mental furniture of Europeans; it was a common part of everyday medicine from Spain to England.

Initially, little bits of pulverized mummies imported from Egypt were used in prescriptions against disease, but the practice soon expanded to include the flesh, skin, bone, blood, fat and urine of local cadavers, such as recently executed criminals and bodies dug up illegally from graveyards, ....The sacrificial victim was stripped and painted blue and made to wear a peaked cap, in a similar manner to the preparation for heart sacrifice. The victim was bound to a stake during a ritual dance and blood was drawn from the genitals and smeared onto the image of the presiding deity.
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wow is all i can say. ive never seen this one before. i prolly never looked.

the winter solstice moon was full high and small at 1am last nite. this morning, Dec 21, it was full and waning slowly
in the western sky (about 3pmish by sun set timing), while the sun was 9amish in the eastern sky.

mid month i often see the half moon to the eastern sky and sun to the west from 1pm-4pm.
both planets in the sky at the same time with this winter solstice sky being the exact...opposite. :mrgreen: wow.

this was way cool. i wasnt expecting it, just looked out to the west and there was the round moon opposite the rising
eastern sun.
Happy Solstice!!!
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Re: EARTH....

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Yes, for whatever reason the moon and sun have been visible at the same time several times in recent months.

The situation is complicated by the fact that the Earth's orbit is very slightly elliptical, with a perihelion typically in the week after New Year's Day. This can actually cause the solar day to be a tiny bit longer than 24 hours right around this time of year in this hemisphere. It also gets the sunsets and sunrises out of phase, so the shortest period of daylight (today) does not have the latest sunrise (that's next month) or earliest sunset (that's two weeks ago).

Happy solstice!
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