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https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/stat ... JheC4q-LOA

Before announcing that today was his last day, John Harwood appeared on CNN three times this morning. During one appearance, apparently knowing it was his last day, he told viewers that Biden's "core point" about a MAGA "threat to democracy is true."
Discovery own this now? Discovery is rightwing too?

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I don't know how ideological Discovery is ... I like SOME of their documentary programming, it's sometimes the only place outside of PBS you can see good science, archaeology, nature programs (well, and NatGeo channel) .... then of course there's the shlock they do for ratings, eh Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, but whatever.

The big complaints seem to be the shakeup they are doing with the DCEU which they now effectively own ... we discussed them axing the Batgirl movie.

The specific problem at CNN appears to be execs John Malone and Chris Licht.

John Harwood abruptly exits CNN amid changes at news channel: "Proud of the work"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 978125001/

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Last month, CNN canceled its weekly "Reliable Sources" media analysis show after three decades on the air, and host Brian Stelter left the network. The show appeared to be an early casualty in CNN's effort to be less confrontational politically — a priority of Chris Licht, who became the network's chairman and CEO in the spring, and his boss, David Zaslav, head of the Warner Bros. Discovery parent company.

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"But that's not what we are talking about. These are not honest disagreements. The Republican party right now is led by a dishonest demagogue," Harwood said, in part.

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Look, I don't know if you have to be "confrontational" politically. That isn't what's necessary. Jon Stewart famously said of Crossfire back in the day, which was on CNN ... lots of heat (yelling, screaming, confronting), little light (i.e. actual useful information). There's nothing gained by watching people screaming at each other and talking over each other.

But, FAIR (an organization whose media critiques I really like) always say it's the job of journalists to be more than just stenographers to power. They need to be asking the hard questions of politicians. As the slogan goes, they need to afflict the comfortable. Otherwise, I think they're not doing their job. (And yes, it doesn't matter what letter comes after the politician's name.)

The execs at CNN don't seem to like that, which means I'm probably increasingly going to be watching it less than I already do, as they seem interested in cleaning house of much of what it does that's worthwhile.
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RIP CNN & Cable TV. :cry:
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I'm removing CNN from my rotation. I never really forgave them for giving 80 per cent of their news air time in the 2016 election to drumpf, and then using Hillary's 20 per cent to go on about her e-mails. They've been marginal at best, even in good times. I have photos of (1) me flipping them off in Hollywood, and (2) a rollicking good demonstration we had in front of the same building, where employees secretly came to windows and gave us thumbs up.

I pity anyone who has to work there. They will never out-faux faux, but every time there's a shakeup at the conglomerate formerly known as Warners, they try try again. It can't work out for them. It never has before, because faux has a lock on that audience. Even the ultraconservative nooz channels can't dent it.
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When the average number of viewers hovers around 550,000 it’s time for a change.

I’d do more of this.

https://www.cnn.com/shows/stanley-tucci ... -for-italy
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CNN and assholes who vote for cons, whether they admit it or not, are trying to effect an end to our democracy.
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I love Stanley Tucci's show. I also loved Anthony Bourdain's. Although he would sometimes get into a bit of politics besides tasting the local food.

That said, while cooking shows may avoid politics and controversy, it's not really what I would turn to CNN for. I want news and commentary and analysis of current events. After all, there is a Food Network.
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Cooking/food/restaurant shows never made me watch CNN before, even though they had a really good one. CNN still just doesn't get it. They don't know how to win over an audience. It's really kind of too bad, since they pretty much invented the format a zillion years ago.
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Speaking of far right wing, did trump get anybody killed this weekend with his speech?

Probably.

Trump has NO power if people dont vote for republicans, so anyone who does is a trumper.
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cnn isn't right or left its dishonest and deceitful also obstructive to an informed public and problem solving, just like all their peers.
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ProfX wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:56 pm I love Stanley Tucci's show. I also loved Anthony Bourdain's. Although he would sometimes get into a bit of politics besides tasting the local food.

That said, while cooking shows may avoid politics and controversy, it's not really what I would turn to CNN for. I want news and commentary and analysis of current events. After all, there is a Food Network.
Nothing wrong with mixing a bit of educational entertainment with the news. Especially if the news is neutral and balanced.

Let the left have msnbc and the right have fox.

CNN needs to revisit and resurrect the past.
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Bludogdem wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 5:09 pm Especially if the news is neutral and balanced.
A worthwhile ideal. If only the people who claim to be so, and further the arbiters of it, weren't so dishonest about their own biases. Worse yet, their agendas.

Faux says it's "fair and balanced" too ... glad we can agree it isn't.

MHO: CNN has not been notably more biased in the last six years then it was in the past, therefore there was nothing to be restored. I get 4 years of them being demonized by Trump as enemies of the people had an effect. But Malone and Licht simply seem to want not balance but a warm and fuzzy network that avoids any and all controversy... safe and neutered.

Absolute neutrality is a silly ideal. For individuals, or for networks. Objectivity is a better goal. But like I keep saying that's not the same thing.

The biggest problem with a rule saying both sides on an issue need equal time is that there are often many and multiple sides on an issue, often more than two, and that's a drastic oversimplification ... but i've said that.
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Libertas wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:40 pm https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/stat ... JheC4q-LOA




Discovery own this now? Discovery is rightwing too?

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Do you consider MSNBC to have a left wing bias.
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CNN is worse than far right. CNN lacks all conviction, lacks all commitment to the truth, and does the bidding of its money-grabbing plutocratic owners du jour. It brings in studio hacks from entertainment media who have shown income generating potential, and puts them in charge of what's news and what isn't. It's worse than advocacy journalism, which is bad enough. It's metric-driven journalism. If it helps the bottom line, it leads, and if real genuine torch carrying swastika waving Nazis take over the US and kill a billion people worldwide, well at least we had a good quarter.

Faux serves an ideology that has gained it a loyal audience. CNN serves only the almighty dollar. You decide which is more dishonest.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 5:39 pm Do you consider MSNBC to have a left wing bias.
Define left wing.
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:16 pm Define left wing.
To him that would be anyone with a nose ring or brain.

And the biggest news in the country is the traitorous maggot judge ignoring the law and precedent and allowing a special master and giving them a stay which wasn't even requested and I have MSNBC on and they're not even covering it
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Libertas wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:39 pm To him that would be anyone with a nose ring or brain.

And the biggest news in the country is the traitorous maggot judge ignoring the law and precedent and allowing a special master and giving them a stay which wasn't even requested and I have MSNBC on and they're not even covering it
TBH I would not call her a maggot because to their credit, maggots cannot help being parasites that recycle organic matter, and angler bait. They're maggots, after all.

These dirty conservatives make an active, conscious choice to do what they do. That makes them WAY worse than maggots imo.
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:09 pm TBH I would not call her a maggot because to their credit, maggots cannot help being parasites that recycle organic matter, and angler bait. They're maggots, after all.

These dirty conservatives make an active, conscious choice to do what they do. That makes them WAY worse than maggots imo.
That was supposed to say MAGA...but I agree :lol:
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Libertas wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:52 pm That was supposed to say MAGA...but I agree :lol:
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:13 pm Oh! Sorry :lol:
The order by the judge is being called insane by experts. OPEN OBSTRUCTION by maga judge that ALL CONS here would vote for. I am talking about the special master, I am so fucking angry I cant stand it anymore.

The judge ORDERED the DOJ to stop investigating trump.
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https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/15 ... BTmxJ558ow


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Changes spark chatter of CNN shifting to the right

Major changes at CNN in recent weeks have sparked chatter in media and political circles that the network’s new corporate ownership is pulling it to the political right.

CNN strongly denies such a change is taking place, saying it is entirely focused on objective journalism.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3634 ... -to-right/
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