Third Grade Students Made To Reenact Episodes From The Holocaust.

[marindem01]

Fuck every single fucking Conservative whoever thought that this is something to 8 and 9 year old children, then blame it on the Jews.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educatio ... school-dc/.

A Watkins Elementary School staff member told third-graders in library class to reenact scenes from the Holocaust, directing them to dig their classmates’ mass graves and simulate shooting the victims, according to an email from the school’s principal. The instructor was placed on leave Friday.

She allegedly assigned specific roles to students. She cast one student as Adolf Hitler, according to an email from Watkins Elementary School Principal MScott Berkowitz to the third-graders’ parents. He did not name the staff member. That student is Jewish, according to the parent of a student who was asked to participate. At the end of the exercise, the child was told to pretend to commit suicide, as Hitler did.

Originally, the students were in library class on Friday for a self-directed project they would present to their classmates before winter break. But the instructor had students participate in the reenactment during their allotted research time, Berkowitz wrote to parents.

This is what Cons teach their children.

Fuck Them.

[carmenjonze]

TF…

[Glennfs]

Hey look at that we are all in agreement. Teaching 3rd graders about the holocaust is appropriate but it should be done in a non traumatic manner

[gounion]

Hey look at that we are all in agreement. Teaching 3rd graders about the holocaust is appropriate but it should be done in a non traumatic manner

This is what happens when religious nutcases are teachers.

[ProfX]

So, on the one hand, I understand that sometimes for young students doing a bit of historical re-enactment can be a fun & engaging learning tool.

I of course also agree 3rd grade is not too early to start learning about the Holocaust in very general terms, but maybe wait until they're a bit older before getting into some of the grainy, gory details.

... That said. Yeah. WTF? Forcing a Jewish student to role-play Adolf Hitler. Having students dig mass graves? Yeah, that makes sense. Not.

... "should this teacher be fired"? Maybe, but seriously, the first thing the admin at the school should talk to them about is WTF they were thinking.

[gounion]

You can teach that these things happen. But I don't think that the history of Ruby Bridges should be acted out, either. You don't put children in such power positions over other children.

[bradman]

Way to early to implant those kinds of images in a kids head. Around here, it was high school when the images were planted in our heads.

11th grade. WWII history. New guy, Mr. Myron. (i was attending his class at the time.) It was half way through the first quarter that the calls for his firing started. The PTA was up in arms. Apparently, the old history teacher didn't use the disturbing images Mr. Myron did. While the old teacher skimmed over the holocaust, Mr. Myron did not. Luckily, cooler heads on the school board prevailed and Mr. Myron kept his job. Some of the parents took the offer of being able to remove their kids from the class. i received a B+ from him. Besides shop,(straight A's) it was the only B i'd ever received in high school.

[carmenjonze]

Hey look at that we are all in agreement. Teaching 3rd graders about the holocaust is appropriate but it should be done in a non traumatic manner

Hey aren’t you the guy who believes the Heritage Foundation propaganda that critical race theory teaches white children to hate themselves?

We are not in agreement about anything, nor is agreement with you some kind of goal.

[marindem01]

Hey aren’t you the guy who believes the Heritage Foundation propaganda that critical race theory teaches white children to hate themselves?

We are not in agreement about anything, nor is agreement with you some kind of goal.

I would not agree with if he told it was raining outside. Telling a Jewish Child to role-play Hitler is sickening. This is what happens when Anti-Semitic/Racist/Homophobic Haters become teachers. We have students dressing up as Klansmen. Black Students role-playing being Slaves and being sold.

But CRT is wrong.

[Glennfs]

Hey aren’t you the guy who believes the Heritage Foundation propaganda that critical race theory teaches white children to hate themselves?

We are not in agreement about anything, nor is agreement with you some kind of goal.

No it teaches them to hate others

[ProfX]

No, it doesn't. and the people learning it as part of a legal curriculum in Law School are NOT being taught to hate anybody.

[marindem01]

No it teaches them to hate others

No Glenn it does not. Nor is CRT taught grade school. Also water is wet. The lies you choose to believe are all about hate. I mean your fucking hero the Traitor went on an Anti-Semitic Screed and you are mute.

[marindem01]

No it teaches them to hate others

So, when your fucking hero the Traitor attacks Jews, Muslims, Hispanics and African-Americans you will of course speak out against it..

When fucking pigs fly.

[carmenjonze]

No it teaches them to hate others

What CRT have you read?

[marindem01]

What CRT have you read?

Please, Glenn is struggling with Dick, Jane and Sally.

[Glennfs]

No Glenn it does not. Nor is CRT taught grade school. Also water is wet. The lies you choose to believe are all about hate. I mean your fucking hero the Traitor went on an Anti-Semitic Screed and you are mute.

What CRT have you read.

[carmenjonze]

What CRT have you read.

What CRT teaches students to hate others?

Sources and citations, please.

[Drak]

No it teaches them to hate others

Parrot

[Bludogdem]

Wonder what was the motivation behind this.

[carmenjonze]

Wonder what was the motivation behind this.

jews will not replace us

[marindem01]

jews will not replace us

Why would they want to?

[Libertas]

I have read a little CRT...very interesting.

It is not now nor has it ever been taught to children of any age.

Cons believe what they believe because doing so excuses their hatred and racism.

I cant hate the liberals and progressives and democrats if I acknowledge what their true positions are, so I have to fabricate what they do and believe and say.

I call them socialists, even though by doing so I betray that I know not what the word means.

I accuse schools of teaching CRT even though they dont. But this way I can hate you liberals even more and for cons like me, that is fun!

As the professor here just said, those learning CRT are not being taught to hate anyone, and I will take the professors word for that, not a waiter or a bookkeeper or a fill in the blank any occupation or profession.

[ProfX]

CRT is mostly taught in law schools.

Seriously. Again, let me break down the cliff notes version of all this. It's certainly an area in which Carmen is probably better read than me.

First there was Critical Legal Studies. Key concept: the law is biased according to class and other social hierarchies, it doesn't treat everyone fairly and equally. Legal language is also designed to obfuscate and make it hard for non-lawyers to understand.

Critical Race Theory builds upon this, particularly focusing more on how race intersects with class, and how racial groups do not always benefit from equal application of or equal treatment under the law. Essentially, there is a core racial bias within the justice system. Now there is much more to it than that, as I said, this is the cliff notes version.

Examining bias in the legal/justice system does not, IMHO, "teach anybody to hate anybody". In fact, in essence, it does the opposite, as it tries to counteract institutional racism that might exist within the legal/justice system.

[carmenjonze]

It's really hilarious that conservative whites like Glennfs truly believe 1- something as dry and unglamorous as CRT is taught to schoolchildren or that 2- it teaches its readers to hate.

These perceptions are reflections of conservative whites' own race-hate...and more importantly, their own self-hate for the violence they have imposed on everyone else.

I just posted a foundational classic of intersectionality theory and by extension, critical race theory in the Elon Musk thread. viewtopic.php?p=10081#p1008

Now's a good time for a reminder that the dreaded i-word, intersectionality, was originally coined in 1989 to describe how race and class impact Black working-class women, specifically. These days it's incorrectly cast as people having multiple identites at the same time, or such, but the original meaning was specific to Black working-class women.

For those who have never read any critical race theory, Kimberle Crenshaw is also a key critical race theorist.

Demarginalizing the Intersection of Race and Sex: A Black Feminist Critique of Antidiscrimination Doctrine, Feminist Theory and Antiracist Politics - University of Chicago Legal Forum, pdf

So, keep in mind that RFL is not to the point where either of these theories can be properly discussed and critiqued on their merits, as they have been on the left for the past 40 years. That's not a criticism.

It's just to say that CRT comes from a relatively rarified place, e.g. law school and studies, ethnic studies, etc. So unless anyone is in that sector, and most people at RFL are not, it's unlikely that anyone has come across much of it. We can get to those critiques later. But you have to actually sit down and read it, first.

[carmenjonze]

CRT is mostly taught in law schools.

Seriously. Again, let me break down the cliff notes version of all this. It's certainly an area in which Carmen is probably better read than me.

First there was Critical Legal Studies. Key concept: the law is biased according to class and other social hierarchies, it doesn't treat everyone fairly and equally. Legal language is also designed to obfuscate and make it hard for non-lawyers to understand.

Critical Race Theory builds upon this, particularly focusing more on how race intersects with class, and how racial groups do not always benefit from equal application of or equal treatment under the law. Essentially, there is a core racial bias within the justice system. Now there is much more to it than that, as I said, this is the cliff notes version.

Examining bias in the legal/justice system does not, IMHO, "teach anybody to hate anybody". In fact, in essence, it does the opposite, as it tries to counteract institutional racism that might exist within the legal/justice system.

This is very much in line with a Duncan Kennedy piece from a few years ago. For anyone not familiar, Duncan Kennedy is a critical legal studies guy with ties to CRT.

Intersectionality and Critical Race Theory: A Genealogical Note from a CLS Point of View - SSRN

It's free to download with a free account at SSRN, but this is the abstract.

This comment, written as a contribution to an as yet unpublished book collection on Kim Crenshaw’s intersectionality writings, develops Crenshaw’s notion of critical legal studies as a “condition of possibility” for critical race theory. In terms of genealogy CRT is “descended” from CLS. I’ll give my own brief version of CLS as the “incubator” of CRT, and then shift to two other aspects of the mid-1980’s context, unrelated to CLS, that seem to me just as important in the genealogy.

Then I ‘ll try to show that the incubator image understates the extent to which, as Kim I think rightly argued in her “Preface,” intersectionality, a major tendency within CRT, is an extension and development of substantive crit ideas about the role of law in social injustice. In the last section I remember with somewhat perverse old white male heavy satisfaction some of the ways in which CRT intersectionality disrupted the standard rhetorical moves of black men and white women, all the while forwarding a cross-category left coalition agenda.