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Turns out Biden spent 99 days of his first year at one of his two Delaware mansions.
The daily mail article is trying to make a big deal out of it. These type of smear articles usually only come out about Republicans and in the past many here have jumped on that band wagon pist haste.
Liberal talk shows will harp constantly about how many days the president spends on vacation.
Personally I have always said at those times to a deaf ear and I still say it now.
The president of the United States no matter who they happen to be is on duty 24/7 from the day they take the oath until the day they leave office.
No matter if they are at their ranch in Crawford Texas at some millionaires home on Long Island or Martha's Vineyard or at one of their mansions in Delaware.
Hopefully we are now in agreement and in 4 years your opinion won't change.
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The president, being C in C, benefits from the military's mobility. If you lived in a real city, you'd have noticed how everything changes when POTUS is around. Not just motorcades and secret service and the famous nuke football. Hotels make out like you wouldn't believe. There's always one that essentially gets taken over. For a long time around here it was the Century Plaza, then it was the Beverly Hilton, now it's somewhere in Westwood that's less of a traffic nightmare when they have to establish the security perimeter around it. Of course POTUS is still a walking 32-mile radius no-fly zone, and there's no fixing that. Traffic helicopters are grounded. Etc..

Point being, if you lived in a real city, you'd understand by now that with this huge entourage, POTUS can be POTUS from East Podunk. He has to be. That nuke football again. Etc.

The issue, then is what POTUS does on his relocations (which the press calls vacations, as if). The last Republican went golfing and threw parties for Russian spies. Every. Single. Weekend. The Republican before him went fishing with a major hurricane bearing down on New Orleans, then the people who were supposed to help were deer in the headlights until the military bailed them out.

I prefer presidents who understand the gravity of the office and what they do in it. That would be the Democrats, at least in the last 20 years.
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ZoWie wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:56 am The president, being C in C, benefits from the military's mobility. If you lived in a real city, you'd have noticed how everything changes when POTUS is around. Not just motorcades and secret service and the famous nuke football. Hotels make out like you wouldn't believe. There's always one that essentially gets taken over. For a long time around here it was the Century Plaza, then it was the Beverly Hilton, now it's somewhere in Westwood that's less of a traffic nightmare when they have to establish the security perimeter around it. Of course POTUS is still a walking 32-mile radius no-fly zone, and there's no fixing that. Traffic helicopters are grounded. Etc..

Point being, if you lived in a real city, you'd understand by now that with this huge entourage, POTUS can be POTUS from East Podunk. He has to be. That nuke football again. Etc.

The issue, then is what POTUS does on his relocations (which the press calls vacations, as if). The last Republican went golfing and threw parties for Russian spies. Every. Single. Weekend. The Republican before him went fishing with a major hurricane bearing down on New Orleans, then the people who were supposed to help were deer in the headlights until the military bailed them out.

I prefer presidents who understand the gravity of the office and what they do in it. That would be the Democrats, at least in the last 20 years.
Now I understand when Republicans do it, it's bad but ok for Democrats.
Personally I think our country is better off if the president spends as much time as they can wherever they feel the most comfortable
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:23 pm Now I understand when Republicans do it, it's bad but ok for Democrats.
Personally I think our country is better off if the president spends as much time as they can wherever they feel the most comfortable
Nah, nothing Dems can do is okay with you guys. But hey, a good use of the President's time is crashing weddings at Mar-a-lago, right?
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gounion wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:52 pm Nah, nothing Dems can do is okay with you guys. But hey, a good use of the President's time is crashing weddings at Mar-a-lago, right?
I guess you missed the part where I defended Biden for spending 99 days at his Delaware mansions.
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No, I read it but it did kind of go by me. Everything else seemed to be about Democratic hypocrisy for not being on Biden's case about time away from the White House the way we were regarding drumpf's weekly golf vacations or his chummy foreign state dinners with the country's enemies.

The media are doing their damnedest to tear Biden down, and I no longer trust anything they say. Today's presser at the White House, where Biden chaired instead of Psaki, was practically a political necktie party. It was a sorry spectacle and a poor excuse for anything much at all. One accredited media representative even asked Biden whether or not he was senile.

Point being that I might have misunderstood the intent of the post, since the situation with the press is so bad that I'm paranoid on the whole subject of the presidency.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:23 pm Now I understand when Republicans do it, it's bad but ok for Democrats.
Personally I think our country is better off if the president spends as much time as they can wherever they feel the most comfortable
taxpayers have paid for sadist to stay at his sinking motels. the cost of SS having rooms in his motels is vast.
he began to, then stopped, making big money off being sadist in chief and a motel cesspool owner.
most known pols were afraid to stay in his motels due to fear of being FILMED. taped.
his casinos were already bankrupt.

most prior in the WH stayed at Camp David. thats what its for. safe country get away.
manchin would have to have a new yacht.
Who are these..flag-sucking halfwits fleeced fooled by stupid little rich kids They speak for all that is cruel stupid They are racists hate mongers I piss down the throats of these Nazis Im too old to worry whether they like it. Fuck them.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:37 pm I guess you missed the part where I defended Biden for spending 99 days at his Delaware mansions.
52 of which were Saturdays and Sundays. Plus, if he had traveled on a Friday (Congress doesn't do business Fridays and Mondays) or Monday, they may have been reported among the 99 days.

So, no, you really didn't defend Biden. You used whataboutism to defend the actions of DJT, spending his time playing golf at his resorts and crashing weddings at Mar-a-lago.
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rainwater wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:43 am most prior in the WH stayed at Camp David. thats what its for. safe country get away.
manchin would have to have a new yacht.
Most people who get elected president have a fair amount of money, and own country estates. Ronzo had The Ranch up in Santa Barbara where he could keep up his Western movie horsemanship skills. The bushes have a ranch where they can pretend to be cowboys. The Roosevelts had plenty of hideaways like Warm Springs and Hyde Park. The Kennedys had Kennebunkport. Etc.

They've always gone somewhere besides Camp David.

Biden's places are actually quite modest by these standards. And he actually works when he's there.
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I would not believe you Glenn if you told me the sky was blue.

You are lying Con. You defend and support the Traitor.
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gounion wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:15 amYou used whataboutism to defend the actions of DJT
That is what Glenn does, defend the Traitor.
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The Traitor spent over One Full Year (381 Days) of his four years in office on vacation there Glenn. My god, but Joe Biden goes home for 99-Days in his firs year in office in Delaware. Holy Fucking Shit.

You are pathetic. You are a defender of the Traitor who quotes Stalin and sides with Putin. You are a deplorable human being. You put party before country.
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marindem01 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:41 pm The Traitor spent over One Full Year (381 Days) of his four years in office on vacation there Glenn. My god, but Joe Biden goes home for 99-Days in his firs year in office in Delaware. Holy Fucking Shit.

You are pathetic. You are a defender of the Traitor who quotes Stalin and sides with Putin. You are a deplorable human being. You put party before country.
Again I was defending Biden not badmouthing him. I was repeating as I have for years now that the president never gets a day off is never on vacation.
The president is on duty and at work from the day they take the oath until the day they leave office. No matter where they happen to be or what they happen to be doing.
Hence the title do you agree with me now.
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gounion wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:15 am 52 of which were Saturdays and Sundays. Plus, if he had traveled on a Friday (Congress doesn't do business Fridays and Mondays) or Monday, they may have been reported among the 99 days.

So, no, you really didn't defend Biden. You used whataboutism to defend the actions of DJT, spending his time playing golf at his resorts and crashing weddings at Mar-a-lago.
I was actually thinking more about the way the press used to get on W about being at Crawford
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:22 pm I was actually thinking more about the way the press used to get on W about being at Crawford
W tended to treat the Presidency as a part-time job, letting Cheney run things. He was a always "clearing brush" at the farm.

Of course, the entire farm was a PR stunt, only time in his life he didn't live in the city. As soon as he left the White House, he sold the farm and lives in Dallas now.
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gounion wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:17 pm W tended to treat the Presidency as a part-time job, letting Cheney run things. He was a always "clearing brush" at the farm.

Of course, the entire farm was a PR stunt, only time in his life he didn't live in the city. As soon as he left the White House, he sold the farm and lives in Dallas now.
Yes when a Republican is out of town they are shirking their duty. But when a Democrat spends 99 days out of town it is ok.

You are perhaps the most partisan person on the board.

W never had a day off and Biden will never have a day off
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:57 pm Yes when a Republican is out of town they are shirking their duty. But when a Democrat spends 99 days out of town it is ok.

You are perhaps the most partisan person on the board.

W never had a day off and Biden will never have a day off
W had lots of days off. He was a part-time Governor, and they never planned on him being anything but a figurehead. That's why he got Cheney - to run things.

And of course you don't want to talk about what Trump did when away from the White House.
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gounion wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:01 pm W had lots of days off. He was a part-time Governor, and they never planned on him being anything but a figurehead. That's why he got Cheney - to run things.

And of course you don't want to talk about what Trump did when away from the White House.
So you are saying Biden took off at least 99 days. I disagree with you. The president never has a day off.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:08 pm So you are saying Biden took off at least 99 days. I disagree with you. The president never has a day off.
Most Presidents don't. Some did. Your side will look for anything to attack Biden on.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:57 pm
The Traitor took Three Hundred Eighty-Ones of Vacation, over one full year of a four year term...on vacation.

Find something else to bitch about.
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marindem01 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:30 pm The Traitor took Three Hundred Eighty-Ones of Vacation, over one full year of a four year term...on vacation.

Find something else to bitch about.
99 times 4 equals 396 learn your math better.

Again Biden like every president has taken exactly 0 days off.

However I do not feel as strong about that fact when it comes to trump.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:53 am 99 times 4 equals 396 learn your math better.

Again Biden like every president has taken exactly 0 days off.

However I do not feel as strong about that fact when it comes to trump.
You can't bring yourself to actually say anything bad about Trump. Trump spent most of his time watching news on TV. He didn't do anything before noon. That's a FACT.
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President Biden has cut Childhood Poverty in half.

President Biden has created more jobs in one year than jobs lost under the Traitor in four years.

The Traitor quotes Stalin and sucks up to Putin.

The Traitor spent 381 Days of his one term in office on Vacation. Over one full year on vacation in a Four Year Term of Office.

The Traitor had net loss of jobs at the end one term in office.

The Traitor killed over 400,000 Innocent Men, Women and Children because his inaction on COVID.

Shut The Fuck Up Glenn. You defend and you support the Traitor.
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Let's put some reality into this, Glenn. GW Bush was probably the lest experienced man every to become President - before Donald Trump. I remember you guys complaining that Obama had only been a senator for two years. But Obama had been a state legislator for several years before that.

GW Bush, on the other hand, had ZERO legislative experience. He was a part-time Governor. Texas legislators are only in session for two weeks every other year. That's it! Bush only worked in his office for two hours a day the rest of the time.

They didn't pick Bush to run because he had what it took to be President, they picked him because of his name, and that he would be happy to be a figurehead while his daddy's old bunch actually ran things. Bush was never picked for anything for his qualifications. He wasn't invited to the group buying the Texas Rangers for anything but his name.

Bush was on vacation for his whole eight years. And of course, you won't say anything bad about Trump, but he was the worst President in history.
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gounion wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:31 am Let's put some reality into this, Glenn. GW Bush was probably the lest experienced man every to become President - before Donald Trump. I remember you guys complaining that Obama had only been a senator for two years. But Obama had been a state legislator for several years before that.

GW Bush, on the other hand, had ZERO legislative experience. He was a part-time Governor. Texas legislators are only in session for two weeks every other year. That's it! Bush only worked in his office for two hours a day the rest of the time.

They didn't pick Bush to run because he had what it took to be President, they picked him because of his name, and that he would be happy to be a figurehead while his daddy's old bunch actually ran things. Bush was never picked for anything for his qualifications. He wasn't invited to the group buying the Texas Rangers for anything but his name.

Bush was on vacation for his whole eight years. And of course, you won't say anything bad about Trump, but he was the worst President in history.
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