Witness tampering?

[gounion]

Okay, we aren't lawyers, but isn't Trump promising pardons to everyone involved in Jan 6th if he's elected in 2024 witness tampering?

Because people that make make plea deals and give up those above them might be willing to wait for Trump to pardon them instead?

[Motor City]

If Biden doesnt start doing for the people that have been neglected and exploited and ignored trump or trumplike candidate will be doing a lot of this. Its pretty dire situation, I hope he bends to justice the kind that isnt beholden to corrupt phony economies that are destined for collapse.

[Libertas]

If Biden doesnt start doing for the people that have been neglected and exploited and ignored trump or trumplike candidate will be doing a lot of this. Its pretty dire situation, I hope he bends to justice the kind that isnt beholden to corrupt phony economies that are destined for collapse.

You're the president and your party holds both the House and Senate.

Please tell me, 1 thru 5, the first 5 things you would do or change.

[Glennfs]

Okay, we aren't lawyers, but isn't Trump promising pardons to everyone involved in Jan 6th if he's elected in 2024 witness tampering?

Because people that make make plea deals and give up those above them might be willing to wait for Trump to pardon them instead?

He didn't say he would provide pardons he said he would treat th them fairly
Now if you were a defendant would you believe him.
I know I sure wouldn't.

[Glennfs]

You're the president and your party holds both the House and Senate.

Please tell me, 1 thru 5, the first 5 things you would do or change.

1 I would get a Medicare option for every person 55 or over
2 I would tell the Senate president in the next 18 months we are filling every federal judge opening
3 I would pull out of th he anti American Paris accords
4 I would restart the pipeline
5 I would cancel the Biden war oil by restarting the oil lease auctions he cancelef.

Now what would you do

[Libertas]

If Biden doesnt start doing for the people that have been neglected and exploited and ignored trump or trumplike candidate will be doing a lot of this. Its pretty dire situation, I hope he bends to justice the kind that isnt beholden to corrupt phony economies that are destined for collapse.

There is a reason I am asking you and not any con, I am pretty sure we want the same things as in:

justice
fairness
decency

and we are willing to go to some lengths to get it, I just am curious what you would do now that would be different than what is being done if you had all the power?

[gounion]

He didn't say he would provide pardons he said he would treat th them fairly
Now if you were a defendant would you believe him.
I know I sure wouldn't.

Glenn, why do you defend him? Why do you lie for him? He said they would be treated fairly. And if that meant pardons, he would hand out pardons.

Did you not listen to the next fucking sentence?

[ProfX]

3 I would pull out of th he anti American Paris accords

The Paris Accords are not anti American. They are pro humanity.

[Libertas]

The Paris Accords are not anti American. They are pro humanity.

I saw him say that too

Is it that they are dumb or are they so full of hate for liberals, democrats, POC, etc. that they say this remarkably dumb shit?

[Libertas]

Glenn, why do you defend him? Why do you lie for him? He said they would be treated fairly. And if that meant pardons, he would hand out pardons.

Did you not listen to the next fucking sentence?

Really, the reason is the smart cons know they are wrong about everything and that they have traded their desire for white supremacy/nationalism for truth and justice. And if they admit they are wrong about one thing, they will have to admit they are wrong about everything.

CJ is right, many of the cons/MAGA fascists are smart enough to NOT be fascists, they know better. Yet...

[Drak]

Okay, we aren't lawyers, but isn't Trump promising pardons to everyone involved in Jan 6th if he's elected in 2024 witness tampering?

Because people that make make plea deals and give up those above them might be willing to wait for Trump to pardon them instead?

Yes. Witness tampering and obstruction is what Trump does. The mob way. And according to some of the participants of Jan 6, they were promised pardons that never happened. So who the hell would even believe Trump in the first place?

[Libertas]

Yes. Witness tampering and obstruction is what Trump does. The mob way. And according to some of the participants of Jan 6, they were promised pardons that never happened. So who the hell would even believe Trump in the first place?

Check the news, traitor just said Jan 6 committee should go after Pence...


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 05128.html

Trump is now calling for Pence to be investigated by January 6 committee
Rambling statement from former president conflates committee’s work with that of entire Democratic caucus

Former President Donald Trump issued a rambling, incoherent statement that was filled with nonsense about the 2020 election, the January 6 committee, and a demand for the panel to investigate Mike Pence, his vice president of four years.

ps

Board cons support everything traitor says and does, that is how it works when you have a two party system and you vote for HIS party. They are my enemies.

[Motor City]

You're the president and your party holds both the House and Senate.

Please tell me, 1 thru 5, the first 5 things you would do or change.

Well 1st thing would be to listen then gather facts and respond the best way that fits the current situation, what that entails depends on what reveals itself through the process. Some things are obvious though as we are in a public health crisis and that health crisis is exasperated by for profit hospitals and insurance companies unequal access and hostile employment staffing treatment of workers. I would executive order medicare for all throughout the pandemic and put every known pressure on ending the hostile staffing practices that are endangering everyone and causing the pandemic to be prolonged. I would reallocate the money from military to feeding and housing the homeless, get the pandemic aid out to the vulnerable including a basic income.

[Libertas]

Well 1st thing would be to listen then gather facts and respond the best way that fits the current situation, what that entails depends on what reveals itself through the process. Some things are obvious though as we are in a public health crisis and that health crisis is exasperated by for profit hospitals and insurance companies unequal access and hostile employment staffing treatment of workers. I would executive order medicare for all throughout the pandemic and put every known pressure on ending the hostile staffing practices that are endangering everyone and causing the pandemic to be prolonged. I would reallocate the money from military to feeding and housing the homeless, get the pandemic aid out to the vulnerable including a basic income.

Some good ideas here. Of course if you EO Medicare for all you have to pay for it, and that is where it would get tricky.

We both know the way to pay for it is to make the rich and corps pay their fair share.

Specifically what are you referring to as "hostile staffing practices?"

[marindem01]

Yes, I know it is taking longer than expected, but Garland has to have is ducks in row if the to go after a former President. All these people who think it should happen now, as if by magic are living in a dream world.

[marindem01]

3 I would pull out of th he anti American Paris accords
4 I would restart the pipeline
5 I would cancel the Biden war oil by restarting the oil lease auctions he cancelef.

Now what would you do

The Paris Accords are NOT Anti-American Glenn, we are talking are talking about life on the whole planet. Get a gripe.

Oil is finite resource Glenn. Earth is the mother of all life Glenn. The pipeline went across sacred trible lands including where remains are buried. How would like it if I started to dig up your Grand Mother for Oil.

[marindem01]

January 6th. Committee Member: Traitor Is "Absolutely " Tampering With Witnessses.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/0 ... s-00004559.

Rep. Pete Aguilar, a member of the House Jan. 6 select committee investigating the Capitol insurrection, on Wednesday said former President Donald Trump “absolutely” was tampering with the panel’s witnesses by discussing potential pardons for defendants charged in relation to the attack.

“I think the question is more for my colleagues on the other side of the aisle. Where are they? Do they support this? When is enough enough?” Aguilar (D-Calif.) said in an interview on CNN.

[Libertas]

I sure hope Garland is investigating the traitor.

[marindem01]

I sure hope Garland is investigating the traitor.

He is, it just takes time. You need to remember that.

[gounion]

I sure hope Garland is investigating the traitor.

I believe that he is. I can't see how he's not. But I think he is doing it right, so they don't bring the same accusations against him as they are Lietta James in New York. And if you go after Trump, it's gotta be iron clad.

[gounion]

He is, it just takes time. You need to remember that.

Let's be clear about something: It's not at all unreasonable to question the lack of action so far by Garland. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it's damned hard, okay?

And I'm NOT going to put MY blind faith in him. I've been around way too long to do that.

[Libertas]

Let's be clear about something: It's not at all unreasonable to question the lack of action so far by Garland. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it's damned hard, okay?

And I'm NOT going to put MY blind faith in him. I've been around way too long to do that.

Yep.

Make noise with your reps, House and Senate, that we INSIST this be done, because maybe nobody is doing that because everybody is assuming it is happening.

Silly me I thought a big name dem should go on MSNBC or CNN and in an interview accidently (but on purpose, rehearsed before hand) drop the F bomb about how much danger our democracy is in. Get national attention for doing it and getting the ATTENTION of what I am sure is tens of millions of non con voters who are NOT paying attention.

[Motor City]

Some good ideas here. Of course if you EO Medicare for all you have to pay for it, and that is where it would get tricky.

We both know the way to pay for it is to make the rich and corps pay their fair share.

Specifically what are you referring to as "hostile staffing practices?"

In paying for it how could we not pay for it, its either that or go the way of the Soviet Union and collapse from decades of war and corruption and false measure and depriving people and infrastructure of their daily bread.

For the hostile staffing

deliberate understaffing and workload shifting, running in constant never ending crisis mode to cover up the hostile nature of workhours and scheduling that deprivates, drains workers and endangers them and everyone else.

Its a cycle that produces bad work, mistakes, dangerous situations and outcomes like too few nurses caring for too many patients or working too many hours to function correctly. Also has people quitting leading to more workload shifting to longer hours and more crazy schemes to cover all the needs like prison guards during covid covering too many areas spreading the covid having to cut corners in extreme ways which in that profession could turn deadly in an instant.

http://www.radiofreeliberal.com/viewtop ... 824#p13824

http://www.radiofreeliberal.com/viewtop ... 753#p13753

[Toonces]

I don't really understand why some Americans are upset by the cancelation of the pipeline.

The pipeline would be taking oil from Canada to the gulf to be exported.

Yes, there would jobs but almost all would be temporary. There would be a barely measurable benefit to the US. You would see a larger benefit by working on renewables. I get that some are oil-centric but it just doesn't seem doesn't have value over cost and possible costs.

[Glennfs]

The Paris Accords are NOT Anti-American Glenn, we are talking are talking about life on the whole planet. Get a gripe.

Oil is finite resource Glenn. Earth is the mother of all life Glenn. The pipeline went across sacred trible lands including where remains are buried. How would like it if I started to dig up your Grand Mother for Oil.

I get a kick out of how you badmouth christianity all day long then turn around and worry about sacred lands.
As for digging up grandma my grandmother has moved on all that is in that hole in the ground is her corpse.
Plus there have been 100s of graveyards moved over the years.