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marindem01 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:51 am Loving your country is NOT a meteric. You cannot decide unto yourself that while believe in Democracy, you have the right unto yourself to decide what other cans read, hear, say, how the worship or where people cannot gather to protest.

You don't want to read "Maus", fine don't. But just because YOU do not want to read it, does not mean you decide that other can't read it either. There were and are people who still want the take To Kill A Mockingbird and Of Mice and Men.

I hate Mein Kamph and Marxist Theory is just plain boring. That does not mean I would ever someone else what they can read. I had Chairman Mao's Little Red Book on the shelf of my quarters at Forth Meyer.

Censorship for self-serving reasons is the worst kind censorship. Just because YOU do not like Maus or want to read it, but you do not have the right to decide for others.

And it most assuredly NOT any form of Democracy.
Conservatives don't even believe in democracy. So it's a little amusing to watch them lapse into shrieking about democracy in this thread, all of a sudden. :problem:
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gounion wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:23 pm Do you like the Texas guy banning 850 books?
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carmenjonze wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:08 am Conservatives don't even believe in democracy. So it's a little amusing to watch them lapse into shrieking about democracy in this thread, all of a sudden. :problem:
It's ingrained into the right - like in union votes. When workers want a union, and the company is forced to have a vote, they are all for democracy - they want ONE vote, to end ALL votes. Vote NO and you'll never have a vote again. Vote YES and you'll always get a vote on things.

So they want ONE VOTE to make Donald Trump the President for life and no more damned democracy.
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gounion wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:25 am It's ingrained into the right - like in union votes. When workers want a union, and the company is forced to have a vote, they are all for democracy - they want ONE vote, to end ALL votes. Vote NO and you'll never have a vote again. Vote YES and you'll always get a vote on things.

So they want ONE VOTE to make Donald Trump the President for life and no more damned democracy.
Conservatives hear the word "democracy" and start screaming socialismcommunism. So IDK what they're on about in this thread, except dull attempts at pandering. :problem:
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Jason Stanley
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Maus’s removal from the curriculum had nothing to do with incipient Nazi, fascist or antisemitic tendencies. It was removed from the curriculum because it was degenerate art, that’s all.

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ProfX wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:34 am Uh huh. Time and data have moved on, Joe. Dateline - Dec. 12th of last year.

Study: Risk of dying from COVID 50% higher in red states
https://local12.com/news/nation-world/s ... nnati-ohio

UNDATED (WKRC/CNN Newsource) - People who live in states that voted for Donald Trump are at a 50% higher risk of dying from COVID-19.

That's according to a new CNN analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University, which shows a direct parallel between low vaccination rates and higher death rates in individual states.

Pro-Trump red states had a 52% higher average of COVID-19 deaths per capita than blue states, researchers found.

[snip][end]

BTW, as always, it's a confound problem. I think it is mostly the case that this was due to their lower vax rates, but I think it also was the case that their lack of public health measures and mandates contributed as well.

It would take deeper analysis to show that, but I still think it's ultimately part of the equation.

BTW, there have been a number of books on how autocratic measures start with people who legitimately originally were democratically elected. Germany is a notable example.

The COVID-19 stuff is off topic, but I'm posting an analysis that refutes your claim where it belongs, in the COVID-19 thread.
Here’s another article related to a study by Johns Hopkins that you might find interesting.

https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/health-ne ... vid-deaths
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:24 pm
This is how conservative book censorship works. There doesn't need to be alternatives to Maus. Maus does not need to be censored or altered as was kicked aound by the school board...only except to white cons.

https://www.facebook.com/matthew.parker ... 7475008572
One thing to watch for when discussing the Maus banning "discussion" is what kind of books are being offered as an acceptable alternative.
Because you'll find, fascinatingly, the ones that they tend to offer as being acceptable:

1) Minimize the violence against Jews;

2) Focus primarily on Good Gentiles Doing Good Things (GGDGT); ...
White supremacists are so insecure that they have to be shown in the best light from all the best angles at all times, or else ...
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3) Both.

The Diary of Anne Frank is acceptable because it doesn't show what happens to Anne, and because it is filled with Good Gentiles doing Good Things.

Number the Stars? Heroines survive due to the efforts of GGDGT.

Same issues with the Book Thief, same with Boy in the Striped Pajamas, etc.

Not to say they aren't good books. I loved Number the Stars as a kid, and the Diary of Anne Frank is beautiful because it is so much about the humanity of Anne--but if you look at the way it is taught, so much focuses on the people doing the hiding.

Maus is different. Maus is a story centered on Jews, told in a Jewish way, in which there is horrible violence and no GGDGT to save the day. There is no redemption, there is no salvation, there is only a story so terrible it has to be told and a need to remember.

People like this school board are perfectly comfortable teaching the Holocaust as long as it isn't too violent, too sad, or too Jew-y. Because to them it isn't a lesson about (largely if by no means exclusively) Jewish trauma, it's a lesson about Good Gentiles Doing Good Things. The rest--our story, our tragedy, our people and families--are just set dressings for the moral and often explicitly religious lessons they want to take from the Shoah.

That's in part because to most of these people, Jews are something to consider in the abstract. Only 22,000 of the 6.8 million people in Tennessee are Jews. 0.32%.

And so erasing our real history, our real stories, is just a rounding error. Not consciously for most, not on purpose for most, but the end result is the same.

They take our story, our deeply Jewish story, and file in substitutes that highlight their story--the story of how a group of kind hearted Good Gentiles Doing Good Things stopped some sad things they don't want to think about too hard because the people doing the sad things looked like them and attended the churches of their denominations.


(Credit to @justsayxtian on Twitter for the original thoughts behind this. Picture for algorithmic purposes. If you want to support me I've put up a Ko-fi, because if I'm going to go viral why not. https://ko-fi.com/mpark6288)
Then on this board you get an even more heinous phenomnon: Glennfs trying to cast his own 2022 family as the victims of this book, which he sez ought be banned from the library.

White spremacism is a hell of a drug. They even think they're the most oppressed in this country and in the scope of modern world history.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:24 pm Here’s another article related to a study by Johns Hopkins that you might find interesting.

https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/health-ne ... vid-deaths
One good study deserves another.

Is the cure really worse than the disease? The health impacts of lockdowns during COVID-19
https://gh.bmj.com/content/6/8/e006653

It is unlikely that government interventions have been worse than the pandemic itself in most situations using data collected to date.

[snip]

Using these data, we can see that New Zealand and Australia, two countries that imposed several lockdowns and heavy restrictions, experienced no excess mortality during 2020. Similarly, South Korea, Taiwan and Thailand had either no excess mortality or only very modest increases in mortality during lockdown periods when there were few or no COVID-19 cases. Indeed, there are no locations in the dataset that experienced both excess mortality and lockdowns concurrently with low numbers of COVID-19 cases, which is what we would expect if lockdowns were independently causing large numbers of short-term deaths. Conversely, places with few COVID-19 restrictions such as Brazil, Sweden, Russia or at times certain parts of the USA have had large numbers of excess deaths throughout the pandemic.

[snip]

While there are certainly costs to be expected from intervening against COVID-19—every decision has a cost, after all—the counterfactual of an unmitigated epidemic makes these restrictions far less damaging than some have suggested. These counterfactuals are not hypothetical and have been observed tragically globally. It appears clear from evidence to date that government interventions, even more restrictive ones such as stay-at-home orders, are beneficial in some circumstances and unlikely to be causing harms more extreme than the pandemic itself.

[snip][end]

As always, Joe, I know which you want to believe. (The research team on this study is larger, and has more experience with the subject directly. That JHU institute, despite its title, has no researchers who actually work in public health or epidemiology.)

Once again, the question is not whether these restrictions caused some social, economic, and psychological harm. The authors acknowledge as much. The question is weighing cost and benefit, and whether the costs outweighed the benefits. They argue no.
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carmenjonze wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:38 pm This is how conservative book censorship works. There doesn't need to be alternatives to Maus. Maus does not need to be censored or altered as was kicked aound by the school board...only except to white cons.

https://www.facebook.com/matthew.parker ... 7475008572



White supremacists are so insecure that they have to be shown in the best light from all the best angles at all times, or else ...



Then on this board you get an even more heinous phenomnon: Glennfs trying to cast his own 2022 family as the victims of this book, which he sez ought be banned from the library.

White spremacism is a hell of a drug. They even think they're the most oppressed in this country and in the scope of modern world history.
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A youth group is distributing hundreds of copies of Toni Morrison’s “Beloved” and Art Spiegelman’s “Maus” in response to Republican-led attacks on those and other books about racism in schools nationwide.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/youth-gr ... 9cfe895db8.

Voters of Tomorrow, a youth-led political nonprofit, plans to give out about 400 copies of the Pulitzer Prize-winning books to public high school students in Austin, Texas, and Fairfax, Virginia, next week. In time, they are hoping to expand their efforts to other locations.
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gounion wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:23 pm Ah so you're on the book banning side too. Do you like the Texas guy banning 850 books?

You conservatives never change do you?
The book wasn’t banned.

I’m beginning to understand the unions desire for your early retirement. I suspect your successor is a younger more modern and practical thinker. Has experience with logic.
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Bludogdem wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:29 pm The book wasn’t banned.

I’m beginning to understand the unions desire for your early retirement. I suspect your successor is a younger more modern and practical thinker. Has experience with logic.
You would suspect wrong. But hey, that's why you guys do. You don't got anything better to do, never having made anything out of your life, you simply attack those who did.
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gounion wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:30 pm You would suspect wrong. But hey, that's why you guys do. You don't got anything better to do, never having made anything out of your life, you simply attack those who did.
That kind of personal attack about your job, career...why is this fucking liar punk still on this board?

I mean why is this LYING FUCK sock republican , trump supporting ASSHOLE still here? :twisted:
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Libertas wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:31 pm That kind of personal attack about your job, career...why is this fucking liar punk still on this board?
To illustrate what crummy human beings those on the right are. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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gounion wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:32 pm To illustrate what crummy human beings those on the right are. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I mean why is this LYING FUCK sock republican , trump supporting ASSHOLE still here?

You are too nice about it, this FUCK should be kicked off this board and it should have happened months ago.
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Libertas wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:34 pm I mean why is this LYING FUCK sock republican , trump supporting ASSHOLE still here?

You are too nice about it, this FUCK should be kicked off this board and it should have happened months ago.
I think he's just stupid and sad. He thinks he's playing 3-D chess, fooling everyone, but he's as transparent as can be. It's very funny. He thinks he's a real intellect, but I suspect he's someone who's never made anything of his life, and only on the internet can he pretend to be intelligent and important, but he fails even at that.
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gounion wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:38 pm I think he's just stupid and sad. He thinks he's playing 3-D chess, fooling everyone, but he's as transparent as can be. It's very funny. He thinks he's a real intellect, but I suspect he's someone who's never made anything of his life, and only on the internet can he pretend to be intelligent and important, but he fails even at that.
Yeah, well fuck him and the rest of you fucking GOP enablers and racist enablers. Fuck you all to hell.
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Libertas wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:34 pm

I mean why is this LYING FUCK sock republican , trump supporting ASSHOLE still here?

You are too nice about it, this FUCK should be kicked off this board and it should have happened months ago.
Libertas wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:31 pm That kind of personal attack about your job, career...why is this fucking liar punk still on this board?

I mean why is this LYING FUCK sock republican , trump supporting ASSHOLE still here? :twisted:
Libertas wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:40 pm Yeah, well fuck him and the rest of you fucking GOP enablers and racist enablers. Fuck you all to hell.
It's funny how these cons bitch and moan about censorship and unfairness and hypocrisy and partisanship, and threaten legal action and i'm gunna get my lawyer to down the board and blah blah. In fact, they are given free pass after preferential treatment after free pass to continue posting their trash on here.
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Bludogdem wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:29 pm The book wasn’t banned.
You didn't answer the question.
I’m beginning to understand the unions desire for your early retirement. I suspect your successor is a younger more modern and practical thinker. Has experience with logic.
The question was, "Do you like the Texas guy banning 850 books?"

You've evaded it, several times. Are you trying to insult your way out of answering?
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My Young Mind Was Disturbed by a Book. It Changed My Life. - NYT, opinion
When I was 12 or 13 years old, I was not prepared for the racism, the brutality or the sexual assault in Larry Heinemann’s 1977 novel, “Close Quarters.”

Mr. Heinemann, a combat veteran of the war in Vietnam, wrote about a nice, average American man who goes to war and becomes a remorseless killer. In the book’s climax, the protagonist and other nice, average American soldiers gang-rape a Vietnamese prostitute they call Claymore Face.

As a Vietnamese American teenager, it was horrifying for me to realize that this was how some Americans saw Vietnamese people — and therefore me. I returned the book to the library, hating both it and Mr. Heinemann.

Here’s what I didn’t do: I didn’t complain to the library or petition the librarians to take the book off the shelves. Nor did my parents. It didn’t cross my mind that we should ban “Close Quarters” or any of the many other books, movies and TV shows in which racist and sexist depictions of Vietnamese and other Asian people appear.

Instead, years later, I wrote my own novel about the same war, “The Sympathizer.”
"The Sympathizer" is currently casting as a forthcoming HBO TV show.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14404618/f ... _=tt_cl_sm
Those who ban books seem to want to circumscribe empathy, reserving it for a limited circle closer to the kind of people they perceive themselves to be. Against this narrowing of empathy, I believe in the possibility and necessity of expanding empathy — and the essential role that books such as “New Kid” play in that. If it’s possible to hate and fear those we have never met, then it’s possible to love those we have never met. Both options, hate and love, have political consequences, which is why some seek to expand our access to books and others to limit them.

These dilemmas aren’t just political; they’re also deeply personal and intimate. Now, as a father of a precocious 8-year-old reader, I have to think about what books I bring into our home. My son loves Hergé’s Tintin comic books, which I introduced him to because I loved them as a child. I didn’t notice Hergé’s racist and colonialist attitudes then, from the paternalistic depiction of Tintin’s Chinese friend Chang in “The Blue Lotus” to the Native American warriors wearing headdresses and wielding tomahawks in the 1930s of “Tintin in America.” Even if I had noticed, I had no one with whom I could talk about these books. My son does. We enjoy the adventures of the boy reporter and his fluffy white dog together, but as we read, I point out the books’ racism against most nonwhite characters, and particularly their atrocious depictions of Black Africans. Would it be better that he not see these images, or is it better that he does?

I err on the side of the latter and try to model what I think our libraries and schools should be doing. I make sure he has access to many other stories of the peoples that Hergé misrepresented, and I offer context with our discussions. These are not always easy conversations. And perhaps that’s the real reason some people want to ban books that raise complicated issues: They implicate and discomfort the adults, not the children.
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Dear Friends:

Art Spiegelman would like to let you know that on Monday February 7 , 2022 at 7 PM (Eastern) he will be in a live conversation on Zoom hosted by a consortium of concerned Tennessee organizations. More details to follow about where to sign up and the related LINK.

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Ascension Lutheran Church, Chattanooga TN

Mizpah Congregation of Reform Judaism, Chattanooga TN

Congregation Bnai Zion, Chattanooga TN

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I’ll see your aphorism that “the answer to speech you don’t like is more speech” and raise you “Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it” by Jonathan Swift, 1710.

One of our two major parties has created an almost hermetically sealed media universe into which alternative perspectives and empirical reality have little chance of entering, and you think the solution is just to talk into that void more loudly

I don’t know what the solution to our propaganda-warped political culture is, but I’m pretty sure publishing essays in magazines and tweeting more ain’t it.

Chris Rufo is an admitted propagandist who invented the anti-CRT panic that is currently driving much of our politics. He’s been exposed as a lying charlatan in dozens of publications. It’s had almost no impact. He’s the king of flying lies.

I will also gently remind folks just how powerfully sanitizing sunlight and counter-speech has turned out to be in regard to tfg’s barrage of lies about the 2020 election.

Remember when Kellyanne Conway said the phrase “alternative facts” in 2017 and all the wise heads laughed at her? I believe she’s the one laughing now.

Truth is social. No individual possesses it and can justly enforce it. The interests of the truth in modern societies is advanced by fallible human institutions--like peer review in academia and standards of journalistic ethics in the media.

This is why right wing propagandists attack both higher education & reality-based media outlets. They elevate cases in which those fallible institutions have failed in order to "prove" that they *never* work. They do this to advance their own, exclusive power to define truth.

Every speech act enters into a field that is already shot through with infinitely complex asymmetries of power. That's even more so the case in our current world of social media algorithms. Just obtusely pretending like those power asymmetries don't exist is hardly a solution.

This is why it's suboptimal for a society to have tens of millions of people getting their news from a credulous dope like Rogan who wouldn't know a fact check if it snuck up & gave him a pile driver. In his universe, a grifting quack gets the same treatment as an actual expert.

Credulous dopes have a right to their opinions. And I get why some people find his stoned dorm room banter to be entertaining. But he's not just sitting in a dorm room with his buddies...he's an influential public figure who can't disown that as a responsibility.

We as a society have an investment in creating spaces in which people can just bat ideas around freely, even dumb ideas. But as this propaganda-assisted pandemic continues to roll on, it should be clear we also have an investment in having scientific truth defeat flying lies.

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The reason (however lame it is) that Tennessee wants to ban "Maus" is because of a single picture a nude woman who committed sucide. Not the sucide, but the nudity.

The woman in the picture is the author's Mother. She killed herself in the bathroom (from what I understand) and while the picture was graphic, it is NOT about her being nude. It is about her death. But Oh Dead Lord, she's NAKED!!! We cannot let children see A NAKED WOMAN!!!. Get fucking real. Not her death, but she is nude. That is what has Cons wringing their hands and rending their garments.

Children in this country have witnessed an Insurrection, Cops murdering African-American Men, Women and Children. They have seen Nazi's marching in the streets shouting, "Jews Will NOT Replace Us". School Children have to through Active Shooter Drills. Girls as young as 6-years suffer Sexual Harassment. But we cannot allow children to see the nude picture of a Woman who killed herself, that might damage them

Time and again we have seen the empty "Thoughts and Prayers" of Republicans in The House and The Senate after a school shooting. African-American School Children are on the receiving end vicious racial violence. AAPI Men, Women and Children are being beaten, assaulted and killed....but the picture of a dead Woman (nude) oh no, we cannot let our school children see that.

Babies were taken from their Mother's Arms under Traitor's term...but we cannot let school children see a picture of a woman who killed herself.

Get your fucking priorities straight Cons. IF you did not care about children being from their Mother's at gun point, shut the fuck up about "Maus".
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If not the people of the community then who should be in charge of what happens at the local community public school
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:14 am If not the people of the community then who should be in charge of what happens at the local community public school
Hey bright eyes, “the people of the community” are not monolithic.

The people of St. Paul’s Episcopal church in Athens, TN are “the people of the community.” viewtopic.php?p=14708#p14708

Jewish parents, Black parents, Asian-American parents, Native parents, Latino parents, parents who are LGBTQ, parents with LGBTQ kids, normal white parents who don’t want minority rule by astroturfed conservative whites..they are “people of the community.”

The students who have to put up with your authoritarian regimes are “the people of the community.”

Child-free people and people without kids in the public schools but still care about what is done with our taxes in publi K-12 and higher ed are “the people of the community.”

Believe it or not, the Kochs and their astroturf parent organizations are NOT “the people of the community.”

Nor is the American Enterprise Institute, or the Manhattan Institute (Chris Rufo’s bosses), or the Heritage Foundation, or Moms 4 Liberty “the people of the community.”
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