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Is it? You sure about that?Blue Grass wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:51 am Being compared to Van Jones is one hell of a compliment
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We're running out of lumber.carmenjonze wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:54 am Hmm, careful with that.
Sam Lefthand thinks it's some kind of badge of honor to say he's never called himself a "progressive," that he's always called himself a Democrat. Which is fine and all; I'm not a "progressive," either, and stopped being one during the Bush43 years. There's nothing wrong with that.
Ironically, too many of them turned out to be blue grass blue dogs who fall for cons like Van Jones and Tulsi Gabbard on the one hand, and jobsandtheeconomy/Hillbilly Elegies Trumpers on the other. Like Sam Lefthand, Ike Bana, and others of that demographic, they've only gotten worse and more sycophantic to white conservatism, as the years lumber on.
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Go educate yourself on the blatant signs of authoritarianism. These things are typically taught in grade school and high school. Either you don't want to educate yourself or you DO know these blatant signs and you're purposely gaslighting. But you're not going to change reality and gaslight the rest of us and try to claim this is tin foil territory. It's not. It all happened and IS happening. Maybe you're in denial because of fear. Maybe you're in denial because it's so bad that your brain shuts down and you just refuse to believe it because of what it means to your own identity. I don't know.Glennfs wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:33 pm I am amazed at how much people here believe that Republicans are this evil force that wants to destroy the country.......by design and on purpose.
Not that they believe the conservative programs will destroy the country but that those programs have been designed by evil Republicans to purposely destroy our country.
I don't know if there would be more profit in selling that crowd depends or tin foil hats.
It's not just one or two items here. It's an entire massive heaping of blatant authoritarianism / dictator pie, unorganized and in no particular order:
- Constantly vilifying the press as "the enemy of people" = dictator (see Nazi Germany)
- Constantly lying to the citizens of your country and repeating those lies over and over so that those lies become truth = dictator
- Demanding the press only ask you questions that you like and attempt to remove press that doesn't, and say things such as, "Don't talk to me that way! I'm the President!" and "fake news!" = dictator
- Constantly pushing fear based lies and distractions based on race, migration, socialists, communists, democrats, and using this as your party platform = dictator (see Nazi Germany)
- Fabricating boogiemen, such as a fictitious wide spread organization called ANTIFA (which means anti fascism, BTW) and using American cities as staging platforms to push fear before an election = dictator
- Meeting with and praising American Brown shirts, the Proud Boys, and telling them to stand by = dictator
- Meeting with Biker Gangs at the WH and praising them = dictator
- Gassing and shooting your own people with pellets outside the WH to stage a photo op holding an upside down Bible near a church = dictator
-Turning Domestic Terrorists who attacked the Capital into martyrs = dictator
- Radicalizing the base into violence against others, huge uptick in domestic terrorism, Charlottesville, Jan 6th = dictator
- Forcing both branches of GOP government to walk lock and step with you without question and using threats against them = dictator
*(See Liz Cheney's comments on mob style threats, and the heads on pikes comments during impeachment as examples)
- Having your WH and cabinet meetings staged with constant praise and clapping = dictator
-Thriving on constant praise and constant self glorification "Only I can fix this. I never make mistakes. Nothing is ever my fault. I take no responsibility" = dictator
- Constant praise and emulation of other world dictators and despots, like Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un, Rodrigo Duterte, MBS, Erdogan (whose body guards beat up American citizens and left unpunished) and constantly attacking fellow Americans and allies = dictator
- Attempting to sow doubt and discord about American law institutions like the FBI and CIA by calling them the Deep State and enemies of America = dictator
- Pushing policies to dismantle allied world relationships that keep the world safe and free = dictator
- Inviting Russian enemy spies into the WH and attempting to keep it a secret, then bragging to them about getting the FBI director off your back and shutting down an investigation = dictator
- Meeting and siding with Vladimir Putin at Helsinki over your own American Intelligence = dictator
- Handing American military bases over to Russia (see the green lit attack on American Kurd allies) = dictator
- Threatening foreign countries if they don't assist you in winning an American election = dictator
- Purposely lying about a deadly virus, calling it a hoax, saying it's no worse than the flu and spreading chaos = dictator
- Unleashing International terrorists, Taliban and members of ISIS from prison = dictator
- Threatening blue states and holding back government assistance during a deadly pandemic, refusing to assist American territory like Puerto Rico after a deadly, tragic hurricane, refusing to assist and help fight devastating wild fires, even on Federal land, in California, because they didn't vote for you = dictator
- Fabricating reality, such as redrawing hurricane maps with a sharpie = dictator
- Stating all elections are rigged if you don't win = dictator
- Telling your base, over and over again, that you should remain in office for life and the Presidency should be inherited by your family = dictator
- Telling your base, over and over again, that your political enemies will be locked up = dictator
- Implementing State TV to push all this disinformation to radicalize people against each other, Fox News, OAN, Newsmax etc. = dictator
- Radicalizing the base to threaten the lives of election officials, school board officials and teachers = dictator
- Refusing a peaceful transfer of power, refusing to concede a free and fair election, inciting an insurrection and attempting a coup, and claiming you will be reinstalled = dictator
And this is the leader of your party. He leads the GOP. He represents the GOP. And they've fully adopted it. It's the party of Trump and Trumpism. The party you vote for.
None of this is made up. I followed along for the last 5 years. I'm not in denial. All of it can be cited from Donald Trump's official Twitter account that has now been shut down, video and print. We've been speaking about these things on this very board for the last 5 years, which you've ignored. You just want to deny and say the sky isn't blue or grass isn't green. I'm not even sure why we have to keep laying this out. I know you won't read, accept or absorb any of this, so it seems rather pointless. But I suppose since the old board is gone it's worth documenting.
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Re: Storming The Capital 2: A Counter Storm is Coming
The First Step Act. Criminal justice reform. Don’t care who he worked with to accomplish that fine goal. Funny how fools malign people who know how to work to get positive things done.
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Lol this guy along with that other conservative guy are whining about the perception of their party being perceived as "evil," while Christian conservatives' entire way of life centers around declaring everyone else evil by default. It's the foundation of their theological and political beliefs, even though they don't even know where that belief even comes from.
Original sin theology is the backdrop behind conservative self-loathing, their misogyny (e.g., Eve, the tree, and the serpent), their violent misanthropy, and inhumane, patholocigal lack of regard for human life in general. Including their own.
Before it's born, it's perfect. Once born, ohh we somehow magically transform into souls that must be saved....by them. They actually believe this, yet here they are complaining about tinfoil hats and pepto bismol.
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Glenn isn't it interesting now that the ONLY elections that aren't rigged are the ones that Republicans win?
When you destroy the faith Americans have in our electoral system, you destroy America. And you're fine with that. You happily vote for those who would destroy that. Your Congressman is one of the worst, and you brag about him.
When you destroy the faith Americans have in our electoral system, you destroy America. And you're fine with that. You happily vote for those who would destroy that. Your Congressman is one of the worst, and you brag about him.
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Yes, according to Glenn we're all racists, Communists and Socialists who hate America.carmenjonze wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:05 am Lol this guy along with that other conservative guy are whining about the perception of their party being perceived as "evil," while Christian conservatives' entire way of life centers around declaring everyone else evil by default. It's the foundation of their theological and political beliefs, even though they don't even know where that belief even comes from.
Original sin theology is the backdrop behind conservative self-loathing, their misogyny (e.g., Eve, the tree, and the serpent), their violent misanthropy, and inhumane, patholocigal lack of regard for human life in general. Including their own.
Before it's born, it's perfect. Once born, ohh we somehow magically transform into souls that must be saved....by them.
And he says he's the only one who sees things as they really are.
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We don't even have to point them to Nazi Germany for more examples of this.Drak wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:01 am
- Constantly pushing fear based lies and distractions based on race, migration, socialists, communists, democrats, and using this as your party platform = dictator (see Nazi Germany)
- Fabricating boogiemen, such as a fictitious wide spread organization called ANTIFA (which means anti fascism, BTW) and using American cities as staging platforms to push fear before an election = dictator
Some of the worst examples are right here, as done by their forebears and relatives.
That first bullet point is the heart of white conservatism, Confederacy, McCarthyism, Lavender Scares, and really the entire 20th century.
Much like they're trying to ban the teaching of history today, they did this with the NAACP during Civil Rights by banning teachers who were NAACP members (or suspected), all while crying about communismsocialism.
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In the 1950s Southern legislatures passed laws forbidding teachers from joining the NAACP or favoring integration. So glad those types of laws are behind us now.
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Okay, in 1955 Georgia delegated the firing of teachers holding NAACP memberships to local school boards: "Georgia backed down on a move to revoke teaching licenses of NAACP members, leaving it up to local systems." Some racism is local.
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Van Jones attacks the left from the "left," pals around with the Trumps and makes comments such as, "This was the moment Trump became President!"
He has zero credibility and isn't well respected. Sort of like posters who think they're clever by leaving and coming back with different accounts.
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Conservative whites started doing this in 1870 and even prior to that, because they couldn't stand the idea of a Black man's vote being equal to theirs.gounion wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:05 am Glenn isn't it interesting now that the ONLY elections that aren't rigged are the ones that Republicans win?
When you destroy the faith Americans have in our electoral system, you destroy America. And you're fine with that. You happily vote for those who would destroy that. Your Congressman is one of the worst, and you brag about him.
The very idea still drives them totally off the deep end. They did have massive problems with white women getting the vote in 1920. But they didn't lynch them.
Speaking of 1920 and voting, a couple days ago saw the 101 year anniversary of the Ocoee Massacre, in which they ran to the Black part of town to lynch a bunch of people for attempting to vote.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocoee_massacre
Story of Ocoee Massacre finally being told - 100 years after it happened | Special Report - Orlando Sentinel
Conservative whites are DESPERATE to not only whitewash facts, today, (e.g. their anti-CRT freakouts). They are even more desperate to suppress minority votes because the census is not in their favor. This makes people like Glennfs susceptible to WN paranoiac propaganda such as racism against whites being accepted by the general public. But that, too, is a really old white-conservative anxiety going back to the slave revolts.Official narrative of the terror for decades was obscured or excused by a whitewashing of facts
So they rationalize these kinds of massacres and the present-day ideology of vote suppression.
Lol and this guy wants to complain that Republicans are seen as "evil." It's way worse than just "Republicans." Give it time. Mister Confederate Flag will eventually claim these conservative whites were "Democrats"
Historians say the deputized mob and white volunteers burned 25 Black homes, two churches and a fraternal lodge. The total number dead is still unknown.
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Lmao Confederate Flag guy sez face the facts this is not a racist country.
White supremacism is a hell of a drug.
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"Some of those that work forces,
Are the same that burn crosses"
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Are the same that burn crosses"
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Okay well, I need a timeline cleanser after that.
They are vile.
Blue Grass thinks this is admirable . That tells us everything we need to know about conservative whites and their delusions.
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No but you are now officially a liar.
You are like a chick 5 years ago I got angry and called you a commie. I ve apologized dozens of times but to a lying liberal like you that doesn't matter.
As for socialist many liberals are socialist many more are useful idiots and some actually do love our country.
Can you name 3 no make that 1 nonpolitical thing you love about the USA.
Can you state that inspite of our flaws the USA is the greatest nation in the history of man.
Can you admit that inspite of our flaws there has never been a better time or a better place for minorities to live.
No but you can sure cosign anything negative that is stated about the USA in a heartbeat.
No not all liberals are racist but you definitely lean that direction. Look at how many times you automatically go to race on just about any issue.
Now granted 99pct of your racist comments are directed at whites but that makes you a racist nonetheless.
As for seeing things the way they are you and many other liberals here have zero ability to look at things through the other person's perspective. Still disagree with them but at least be able to see how or why that person came to their conclusions.
" I am a socialist " Bernie Sanders
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How hilarious. First you say I'm lying, you don't believe those things, but then you spend the rest of the thread trying to prove that it's the truth.Glennfs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:08 pm No but you are now officially a liar.
You are like a chick 5 years ago I got angry and called you a commie. I ve apologized dozens of times but to a lying liberal like you that doesn't matter.
As for socialist many liberals are socialist many more are useful idiots and some actually do love our country.
Can you name 3 no make that 1 nonpolitical thing you love about the USA.
Can you state that inspite of our flaws the USA is the greatest nation in the history of man.
Can you admit that inspite of our flaws there has never been a better time or a better place for minorities to live.
No but you can sure cosign anything negative that is stated about the USA in a heartbeat.
No not all liberals are racist but you definitely lean that direction. Look at how many times you automatically go to race on just about any issue.
Now granted 99pct of your racist comments are directed at whites but that makes you a racist nonetheless.
As for seeing things the way they are you and many other liberals here have zero ability to look at things through the other person's perspective. Still disagree with them but at least be able to see how or why that person came to their conclusions.
But you know the one thing I never called you? A racist. But you don't mind calling me one.
You just proved me correct.
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No one is lying. You've done this a lot. You've come in here often calling members of this board socialists and communists, or the extreme left (which is the same thing), and recently too.Glennfs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:08 pm No but you are now officially a liar.
You are like a chick 5 years ago I got angry and called you a commie. I ve apologized dozens of times but to a lying liberal like you that doesn't matter.
As for socialist many liberals are socialist many more are useful idiots and some actually do love our country.
Can you name 3 no make that 1 nonpolitical thing you love about the USA.
Can you state that inspite of our flaws the USA is the greatest nation in the history of man.
Can you admit that inspite of our flaws there has never been a better time or a better place for minorities to live.
No but you can sure cosign anything negative that is stated about the USA in a heartbeat.
No not all liberals are racist but you definitely lean that direction. Look at how many times you automatically go to race on just about any issue.
Now granted 99pct of your racist comments are directed at whites but that makes you a racist nonetheless.
As for seeing things the way they are you and many other liberals here have zero ability to look at things through the other person's perspective. Still disagree with them but at least be able to see how or why that person came to their conclusions.
As for
this statement totally violates your last sentence that saysmany liberals are socialist many more are useful idiots and some actually do love our country.
Instant hypocrite.As for seeing things the way they are you and many other liberals here have zero ability to look at things through the other person's perspective. Still disagree with them but at least be able to see how or why that person came to their conclusions.
No, many liberals are not "socialists." You spread fear based disinformation and have proven time and time again you have no clue what socialism even is.
GoU is not a racist. At all. But YOU have shown time and time again that you have been. Stop projecting.
Your perspective supports extreme harm and supports vile people like Donald Trump. You refuse to educate yourself and remain ignorant. And stop with the hypocrisy. You claim people here have zero ability to see from your perspective when YOU DO THAT ALL THE TIME WHICH YOU'VE SHOWN AGAIN HERE. This is a political message board for fks sakes. People point stuff out to you all the time and counter with articles and you refuse to read them. You just expect people to agree with your bullshit? You're not even honest.
And the bolded remark is sexist. Remember that the next time you accuse others of being sexist or misogynist, which is a tactic you often use.
Every time you come in here you act like an angry child who owns the place and you go on the attack or you troll. This is a laisse fair place, but this is a liberal message board.
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This is longstanding white-supreamcist propaganda stemming from the Atlantic slave trade and Manifest Destiny conquests.
Conservative whites have always believed we must be grateful for whatever race-based misanthropy, vigilante murder, eugenics, mass disenfranchisement, and personal racial hatreds conservative whites dish out.
You're one of them. After 500 years of mass murder and white-supremacist public policy, you still actually believe this barbarity has been bringing us civilization.
It stems from you guys' "three hots and a cot" ideology, rooted in chattel slavery. It's also reflected in your nauseating ideas that Native Americans ought to be grateful for genocidal boarding and residential schools.
White conservatism is destroying this country from inside out, and you are a vital part of it.
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The heck does this even mean...
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The entire GOP platform is based off of division and fear. That America is a failure, and no longer good, or great. Make America Great Again. Save America!many liberals are socialist many more are useful idiots and some actually do love our country.
Or that America only belongs to certain people and not the others. Throughout the entire Bush administration (I'll start there since it's more recent) and continuing onward, Americans who thought and felt differently than Republicans were told to leave the country, that they weren't real Americans. That they are socialists or communists. Freedom fries! If you don't support the war on Iraq, you're not an American! LEAVE! Cancel those who defy us! No more Dixie Chicks! Burn those shoes!
Glenn even used to call Obama, "Obamao" and entertained the idea that Obama wasn't even from America.
It's extremely laughable that Glenn comes in here constantly whining about tolerance when he supports disinformation, lies and the party of intolerance. And that he absolutely refuses to read ANYTHING that goes against his indoctrinated world view.
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Lol Confederate Flag guy insists the US isn't a racist country.Drak wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:53 pm The entire GOP platform is based off of division and fear. That America is a failure, and no longer good, or great. Make America Great Again. Save America!
Or that America only belongs to certain people and not the others. Throughout the entire Bush administration (I'll start there since it's more recent) and continuing onward, Americans who thought and felt differently than Republicans were told to leave the country, that they weren't real Americans. That they are socialists or communists. Freedom fries! If you don't support the war on Iraq, you're not an American! LEAVE! Cancel those who defy us! No more Dixie Chicks! Burn those shoes!
Glenn even used to call Obama, "Obamao" and entertained the idea that Obama wasn't even from America.
It's extremely laughable that Glenn comes in here constantly whining about tolerance when he supports disinformation, lies and the party of intolerance. And that he absolutely refuses to read ANYTHING that goes against his indoctrinated world view.
Tells us everything we need to know.
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hey, white nationalist.
What "racist comments" has GoU made against whites, making him "racist"?
What does this illiterate sentence even mean?
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It’s kinda like when FDR took up for the poor and the working class, he was called a “traitor to his class”. If you side with black people on anything, like Black Lives Matter, Glenn thinks you’re a racist that hates white people. Glenn thinks America today is a nation where the only racism is against white people.carmenjonze wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:08 pm hey, white nationalist.
What "racist comments" has GoU made against whites, making him "racist"?
What does this illiterate sentence even mean?