Rudy is the biggest of all conservative victims

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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:05 pm Already said he should be charged on minor charge, in that he shouldn't have touched him. He's welcome to insult him. For committing a crime on the job, he should be fired.

So should Rudy be charged with making a false accusation? Yes or no?
I do not believe there should be any charges but, he should lose his job.
No Rudy should not be charged.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:11 pm I do not believe there should be any charges but, he should lose his job.
Again, should Rudy be charged for false accusations? Everything he said was demonstrably false.

It's funny, with the bombshell testimony today, you want to talk about anything else but that.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:13 pm Again, should Rudy be charged for false accusations? Everything he said was demonstrably false.

It's funny, with the bombshell testimony today, you want to talk about anything else but that.
No he shouldn't. Nobody should put their hands on any public offical. Rudy has a valid point in charging him but, personally I believe Rudy is being an asshole in doing so.
That guy wanted to be a big man and brag to his friends about insulting Guiliani....well how did that work out
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:19 pm No he shouldn't. Nobody should put their hands on any public offical. Rudy has a valid point in charging him but, personally I believe Rudy is being an asshole in doing so.
That guy wanted to be a big man and brag to his friends about insulting Guiliani....well how did that work out
Oh? Rudy is a public official? Since what decade?

And he lied in his charges. That should be prosecuted. That's illegal.

Oh, but doing illegal things are fine if you're a Republican.... "official".
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All this guy is defend the worst people on the planet. There is no bottom.
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Rudy hasn't been a public official since 2001.
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Drak wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:23 pm All this guy is defend the worst people on the planet. There is no bottom.
So how exactly is calling Rudy an asshole defending him.
How exactly is saying the guy shouldn't be charged defending Rudy
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If Rudy was a man of quality, a man character, you know, a stand up guy? This wouldn't even be a story.

Instead, we have a weasel who deals with Kremlin agents telling the stupidest lie we've seen in recent times. And one of the board cons is defending him.

The guy tapped Rudy on the back and said some words to him. Big fucking deal. Words less offensive that anything Rudy has ever said about anyone else.

This is part of an op trying to frame liberals as being the violent ones and an attempted distraction from J6 and SCOTUS, and it's beyond dumb. Just like the board con started doing when the ridiculous op began.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:21 pm Oh? Rudy is a public official? Since what decade?

And he lied in his charges. That should be prosecuted. That's illegal.

Oh, but doing illegal things are fine if you're a Republican.... "official".
You are being partisan and ridiculous. Rudy is well within his rights to charge the guy. But, imo he is an asshole for doing so.
Now if the next guy who wants to look like a big man slaps a public offical a little harder.
As for Rudy not being a public offical if he weren't the guy wouldn't have slapped and insulted him.
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Drak wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:31 pm If Rudy was a man of quality, a man character, you know, a stand up guy? This wouldn't even be a story.

Instead, we have a weasel who deals with Kremlin agents telling the stupidest lie we've seen in recent times. And one of the board cons is defending him.

The guy tapped Rudy on the back and said some words to him. Big fucking deal. Words less offensive that anything Rudy has ever said about anyone else.

This is part of an op trying to frame liberals as being the violent ones and an attempted distraction from J6 and SCOTUS, and it's beyond dumb. Just like the board con started doing when the ridiculous op began.
I agree Rudy should have had his people complain to the managment who in turn should have fired the guy
No criminal charges are necessary imo.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:33 pm You are being partisan and ridiculous.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Man, the lack of self awareness is astounding.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:35 pm I agree Rudy should have had his people complain to the managment who in turn should have fired the guy
No criminal charges are necessary imo.
The charges were false.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:29 pm So how exactly is calling Rudy an asshole defending him.
How exactly is saying the guy shouldn't be charged defending Rudy

A few down you're claiming Rudy is within his rights to charge him. You're all over the map.
Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:49 pm Rudy is just an old man who stayed at the party to long. The poster child as to why people of a certain age should not be involved with our government.
Had he retired 15 years ago written a couple of books gave some speeches his legacy would have been as one of the greatest mayors in NYC history.
Instead he will be remembered as an asshole.

As for the "assault" the employee should not have touched or insulted him and should be fired.


You're defending him giving him excuses by saying he's old and the employee should be fired. Age has nothing to do with it. Rudy has been telling sinister lies for decades.

Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:11 pm I do not believe there should be any charges but, he should lose his job.
No Rudy should not be charged.
You're defending him by stating he shouldn't be charged or face consequences for obvious false reports.

And look, here you are defending him again. No, Rudy is not well within his rights to charge him. He wasn't assaulted.
Glennfs wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:33 pm Rudy is well within his rights to charge the guy.
No one was assaulted. It was a pat on the back. Period. There's video. It's not even up for debate. And Rudy IS NOT A PUBLIC OFFICIAL.

No reasonable person should be defending this. All you ever do is defend people that sit under the GOP label. Like you do with Trump.
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Public figure != public official.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are still public figures, but are not public officials. Anymore.

You're welcome.

The ShopRite employee is being charged with 2nd degree assault and harassment. No battery. His employer suspended him.

People should keep their hands to themselves, but this was not a physical attack. The guy did not try and shove or push him over. That's just false.

Whether he's terminated or not is up to his boss, many employers frown on this behavior toward any customer. No matter how much of an asshole they are. The management reserve the right to refuse service to customers, but employees are not free to diss them, if management has not done so.
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ProfX wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:02 pm Public figure != public official.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are still public figures, but are not public officials. Anymore.

You're welcome.

The ShopRite employee is being charged with 2nd degree assault and harassment. No battery. His employer suspended him.

Whether he's terminated or not is up to his boss, many employers frown on this behavior toward any customer. No matter how much of an asshole they are. The management reserve the right to refuse service to customers, but employees are not free to diss them, if management has not done so.
RIDICULOUS charge , putting employment aside, can you see him being charged if Rudy isnt Rudy?
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Assault normally means threat to do actual harm (battery is the actual physical harm).

I think the charge is bullshit. Rude behavior may be inappropriate, but the employee never threatened any kind of harm to Giuliani.
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ProfX wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:09 pm Assault normally means threat to do actual harm (battery is the actual physical harm).

I think the charge is bullshit. Rude behavior may be inappropriate, but the employee never threatened any kind of harm to Giuliani.
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Libertas wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:01 pm Without Rudy claiming it was anything but what it was you wouldn’t have anybody making comments like the one you are responding to, people have lost their fucking minds.

Without Rudy’s comments you can play this video without sound for board cons and ask them if they see anything wrong in the video of course they wouldn’t be able to tell you what was wrong.
Half the world has gone batshit crazy GU.

Just when ya'd think Rudy has reached rock bottom he finds another hole to dig.

The only time Rudy comes to mind is when i read he's getting closer to being nailed for what he did on the 6th.

Other than that, he's a waste of breath.
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ProfX wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:09 pm Assault normally means threat to do actual harm (battery is the actual physical harm).

I think the charge is bullshit. Rude behavior may be inappropriate, but the employee never threatened any kind of harm to Giuliani.
The employee should be fired as he would be had he insulted any customer. Or imagine he had done that to Maxine Waters or AOC or a gay or trans person. No charges because he really did not assault anyone. But, he should be fired immediately.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:20 am The employee should be fired as he would be had he insulted any customer. Or imagine he had done that to Maxine Waters or AOC or a gay or trans person. No charges because he really did not assault anyone. But, he should be fired immediately.
Rudy should be charged with filing a false complaint
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gounion wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:01 am Rudy should be charged with filing a false complaint
Then after that put him in prison for 3 or more consecutive life terms for his many crimes.
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