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To start fanboy comes from sports and is a sports fan of a particular team that has no objectivity or perspective. It can also extend to other subjests like car brands, favorite restaurants or least favorite, artists, movies etc. In the case of people here politics.

Not being the wordsmith many of you are let me explain from a sports perspective. I am a fan of The Ohio State football team. When they win I am very happy when they lose I get mad. If a person badmouths them they need to have a particular reason, not just they suck.
But, I am not a fanboy. On the various The Ohio State Football sites fanboys are calling for the coach to be fired, because we went 11-2 last season. Fanboy believes that 11-2 in unacceptable.
As a sports fan and sports gambler I know Georgia would have defeated the Buckeyes by 17 to 25 points last season. Fanboy firmly believes that the Buckeyes would have blown Georgia out.
So that is what a fanboy is.

Here is how it applies to folks here, since he is relevant to today I will use Trump but, prior to Trump a person could have used any prominent republican and been equally accurate. Fanboy believes any and every rumor about Trump. They believe he wants to have relations with his daughter, they believe him to be a pedo, they believe he would sell or give nuclear secrets and more to a foreign power or government.
As for political parties again they believe any rumor or lie about the GOP or any member of the GOP.
Now they do that while at the same time believing nothing negative about their party or any leaders of their party. Bernie Sanders just an FDR democrat, AOC highly qualified, the Squad not far left at all, RBG was a moderate, the Clinton's have never done anything nefarious and so on.

A couple of good examples are back in the Ed Schultz days people used to hard that Prescot Bush did business with the Nazis. Because a bank on which he was on the board of directors did indeed prior to WWII do business with Nazi Germany. But, at the same time they ignored the fact that Avril Harriman advisor to FDR,Truman and JFK was in charge of that same bank.

Another example is the lolita express, it is very true that Trump flew on Epstein's plane at least 7 times, probably more. Which according to fanboy proves Trump to be a pedo. At the same time fanboy ignores the fact that we know Bill Clinton flew on the plane 26 times that we know of, probably more.

Political fanboy is opposed to anything conservative and supports everything liberal and vise versa. Finally one of the biggest things about political fanboy is they consider any criticism of Joe Biden or any democrat as an endorsement of Trump and the republican party. They also consider anyone who does not believe things like Trump wants to fuck his daughter or that even trump wouldnt sell nuclear secrets to a foreign power to be a trumper. The same also applies to SJW's you can agree with everything except one minor point and fanboy considers that person to be a bigotted homophobe.
Because fanboy has zero objectivity or perspective on the subject they are fanboy about.
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You have just defined yourself.
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Fanboy is a meme. If one thinks it is meaningless then it is. It is also just another example of groupism.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:38 am To start fanboy comes from sports and is a sports fan of a particular team that has no objectivity or perspective.
I don't view politics as a team sport. See earlier.

Where to even begin? Your screed as usual conflates parties and ideologies ... liberal and conservative are ideologies, Dems and Reps are political parties .... let's start there.

First off, we are stuck with duopoly in the U.S. for a variety of historical & structural reasons, so yes it's usually two teams going at each other - for the last century or so, it's always been Democrats and Republicans.

But this analogy fails if you look at most parliamentary democracies outside of the U.S., where you often have 5-10 parties in the parliament. All of a sudden, it's hard to claim it is just one team versus another team. It's a lot of teams vs. a lot of other teams, and even shifting alliances where a party is on one team (coalition) one day and on another team the next. That happens. :D

Aside from the fact that politics is probably more of a quadratic plane than a linear axis, it really isn't, one team versus another team. Even in the U.S., the teams have been different. The argument in the early era was mostly Federalists vs. Anti-Federalists, our first political parties.
So that is what a fanboy is.
Cool. Do you know what a false analogy is? :mrgreen:
Bernie Sanders just an FDR democrat,
He's not a Democrat. He caucuses with Democrats. You get the difference. Right?

I get you believe what you are saying. :D Ironically, it's a ridiculous oversimplification of the complexities of political debate in the U.S., let alone of positions on this board.
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gounion wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:56 am You have just defined yourself.
No I support gay rights, national healthcare, HRC, and many more liberal positions.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:08 am No I support gay rights
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:08 am No I support gay rights, national healthcare, HRC, and many more liberal positions.
No, you do not.
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ProfX wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:01 am I don't view politics as a team sport. See earlier.

Where to even begin? Your screed as usual conflates parties and ideologies ... liberal and conservative are ideologies, Dems and Reps are political parties .... let's start there.

First off, we are stuck with duopoly in the U.S. for a variety of historical & structural reasons, so yes it's usually two teams going at each other - for the last century or so, it's always been Democrats and Republicans.

But this analogy fails if you look at most parliamentary democracies outside of the U.S., where you often have 5-10 parties in the parliament. All of a sudden, it's hard to claim it is just one team versus another team. It's a lot of teams vs. a lot of other teams, and even shifting alliances where a party is on one team (coalition) one day and on another team the next. That happens. :D

Aside from the fact that politics is probably more of a quadratic plane than a linear axis, it really isn't, one team versus another team. Even in the U.S., the teams have been different. The argument in the early era was mostly Federalists vs. Anti-Federalists, our first political parties.



Cool. Do you know what a false analogy is? :mrgreen:



He's not a Democrat. He caucuses with Democrats. You get the difference. Right?

I get you believe what you are saying. :D Ironically, it's a ridiculous oversimplification of the complexities of political debate in the U.S., let alone of positions on this board.
We have people here who said that Bernie was just an FDR democrat when Bernie was pretending to be a Democrat. To the best of my knowledge the only people here who support positions from both sides of the isle are the conservatives.

I will give you a future example. People who vote for Dr Oz in Pa are fanboys. But, if Dr Oz was running as a democrat every person here would vote for him.
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Drak wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:10 amNo, you do not.
See you just proved my point. Because there are one or two things I don't support you as a fanboy believe that I don't support gay rights.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:38 am To start fanboy comes from sports and is a sports fan of a particular team that has no objectivity or perspective.

That is not the origin of "fanboy," you stupid undereducated confederate.

Read a book.

https://www.gawker.com/5542074/the-origin-of-fanboy
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:13 am See you just proved my point. Because there are one or two things I don't support you as a fanboy believe that I don't support gay rights.
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These Are the 157 House of Representatives Members Who Voted Against Protecting Marriage Equality - Katie Couric
The 157 House Republicans who voted against the Respect for Marriage Act

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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:12 am We have people here who said that Bernie was just an FDR democrat when Bernie was pretending to be a Democrat. To the best of my knowledge the only people here who support positions from both sides of the isle are the conservatives.

I will give you a future example. People who vote for Dr Oz in Pa are fanboys. But, if Dr Oz was running as a democrat every person here would vote for him.
I want to be clear about something. You put Bernie’s positions against FDR’s, and theres almost no difference. That is a fact. Of course you fantasize about what you say Bernie stands for.

And you vote for Lindsey Graham. You do NOT support gay rights at all.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:12 am To the best of my knowledge the only people here who support positions from both sides of the isle are the conservatives.
An isle has only one side. The other is underwater. :D

I have supported bipartisan bills in the past, and will in the future. Try again.
But, if Dr Oz was running as a democrat every person here would vote for him.
I don't live in PA. but if I did I still would not be ignoring his history of medical quackery. Even if he ran as a D.

I certainly would be looking at alternatives to him in the Dem primary, again if he were running as such.
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ProfX wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:27 am An isle has only one side. The other is underwater. :D

I have supported bipartisan bills in the past, and will in the future. Try again.



I don't live in PA. but if I did I still would not be ignoring his history of medical quackery. Even if he ran as a D.

I certainly would be looking at alternatives to him in the Dem primary, again if he were running as such.
You are one of the two people here I don't view as a political fanboy.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:08 am No I support gay rights, national healthcare, HRC, and many more liberal positions.
From Snooze Smacks:

Rep. Norman to Newsmax: Bannon's Guilty Verdict a 'Dog-and-Pony' Show
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:28 am You are one of the two people here I don't view as a political fanboy.
Also from Snooze Smacks:

Rep. Norman to Newsmax: Must Be 'Consequences' for Jan. 6 Panel, Trump Raid
Rep. Ralph Norman told Newsmax that Republicans need to not only probe the origins of the House Jan. 6 committee and FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago but also "have consequences" for those responsible.

During a Saturday interview on "Wake Up America," the South Carolina Republican stressed that his party needs to unleash subpoena powers in every committee against those who have unfairly targeted former President Donald Trump come a November win.

"Every agency that we have — it won't just be the Oversight Committee. It'll be Judiciary. It'll be Financial Services. It'll be all the ones that will have subpoena power to get people in," Norman stated.
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Cool. Maybe now we can get into the origins of the word "fan".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_(person)

A fan or fanatic, sometimes also termed an aficionado or enthusiast, is a person who exhibits strong interest or admiration for something or somebody, such as a celebrity, a sport, a sports team, a genre, a politician, a book, a movie, a video game or an entertainer. Collectively, the fans of a particular object or person constitute its fanbase or fandom. They may show their enthusiasm in a variety of ways, such as by promoting the object of their interest, being members of a related fan club, holding or participating in fan conventions or writing fan mail. They may also engage in creative activities ("fan labor") such as creating fanzines, writing fan fiction, making memes or drawing fan art.

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Merriam-Webster, the Oxford dictionary and other sources define "fan" as a shortened version of the word fanatic. Fanatic itself, introduced into English around 1550, means "marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion". It comes from the Modern Latin fanaticus, meaning "insanely but divinely inspired".[1] The word originally pertained to a temple or sacred place [Latin fanum, poetic English fane]. The modern sense of "extremely zealous" dates from around 1647; the use of fanatic as a noun dates from 1650. However, the term "fancy" for an intense liking of something (a usage attested by 1545),[2] while being of a different etymology, coincidentally carries a less intense but somewhat similar connotation to "fanatic". Use of "the fancy" to mean avid sports enthusiasts emerged as an Americanism in the mid-19th century.[3] The Dickson Baseball Dictionary cites William Henry Nugent's work asserting that it was derived from the fancy, a term referring to the fans of a specific hobby or sport from the early 18th century to the 19th, especially to the followers of boxing.[4] According to that theory, it was originally shortened to fance then just to the homonym fans.[failed verification] The Great American Baseball Scrapbook attributes the term to Chris Von der Ahe, owner of the Saint Louis Brown Stockings in 1882. Von der Ahe sold tickets for 25 cents, hoping the many patrons would purchase his beer; the low ticket price helped him lead the stats in attendance. He called the fanatics filling his stands "fans".[5]

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(BTW -- they give an etymology for fanboy below, let's get to it.)

Fanboys are frequently portrayed as "angry nerds", over-aggressive, derogatory, and protective of the object of their obsession,[59] or as bespectacled, geekoid, obsessive fans. The term nerd, defined as "[an] insignificant, foolish, or socially inept person; a person who is boringly conventional or studious; a person who pursues an unfashionable or highly technical interest with obsessive or exclusive dedication,"[60] as well as the term geek, defined as "[a] person […] who is regarded as foolish, offensive, worthless; an overly diligent, unsociable student; any unsociable person obsessively devoted to a particular pursuit,"[61] are often used to describe stereotypical fanboys. In regards to chosen fandoms, they are typically associated with comic books, video games, science fiction movies or television series, or technology (such as computer or smartphone brands).[59]

An exception to this portrayal is the sports fan, who is expected to be overtly sexual, and aggressive.[40] This portrayal is particularly dominant within the sports arena, which provides a legitimate site for people to act in hyper masculinized ways.[40] According to Williams, "Many [men] want to be overtly sexist and racist. They need to have this exaggerated sense of their sexuality to defend themselves from potential accusations that they are not real men

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I should note this nerd has never been that intense of a sports fan. Have I rooted for the Miami Dolphins? Of course. Devotedly ... hardly. Am I gonna go half naked painted with the team colors to some game where it's freezing in the stands? F that. Wouldn't do it even if they won more games.

I think it's fairly transparent what other kinds of fandoms I'm into. But you're right. I know people who are like all Marvel and hate DC characters, or who love Trek but hate Star Wars, etc. etc. To be honest, I don't get those people. :D

Obsessively ... I wouldn't say that. :mrgreen:
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:12 am We have people here who said that Bernie was just an FDR democrat when Bernie was pretending to be a Democrat. To the best of my knowledge the only people here who support positions from both sides of the isle are the conservatives.

I will give you a future example.
Nobody's interested in some online confederate crystal ball. :problem:

CNN’s Dana Bash Confronts Sen. Lindsey Graham on Hypocrisy of His Renewed Support of Trump’s Reelection (Video) - The Wrap


CNN’s Dana Bash called out Sen. Lindsey Graham Sunday on his hypocrisy, having recently cheered on Donald Trump’s reelection ambition even though the South Carolina Republican made an impassioned speech in the aftermath of the Jan. 6 Capitol riots, saying “count me out” of supporting Trump.

“Why now do you think Trump has the character to be president again?” Bash asked Graham, who has expressed that he supports the former president’s 2024 run rather than speculated Republican nominee Ron DeSantis, on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“I think he was a consequential president,” Graham told Bash. “If you compare his policies to what’s going on today, I think he’s got a hell of a story to say.”
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:08 am No I support gay rights, national healthcare, HRC, and many more liberal positions.
I don't know if you mean the Human RIghts Campaign, I suspect you mean Hillary Rodham Clinton, and she is not a "liberal position". :lol:
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ProfX wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:42 am I don't know if you mean the Human RIghts Campaign, I suspect you mean Hillary Rodham Clinton, and she is not a "liberal position". :lol:
He definitely doesn't mean the Human Rights Campaign.

Everyone he supports, including all the anti-LGBTQ legislation he supports, is 180 degrees opposite the Human Rights Campaign.

He doesn't even know what that is.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:13 am See you just proved my point. Because there are one or two things I don't support you as a fanboy believe that I don't support gay rights.
No I didn't prove your point. But this proves my point.

First thing. The entire GOP party is based around a cult and a cult leader personality. The party is not allowed to diverge from thought or action outside the collective, or else members are ostracized and threatened. Then there's the base. MAGA hats, Trump T shirts, Trump flags, "Let's Go Brandon!" is all based around cultlike/sports motifs. No amount of reality or facts will sway the base and the party from turning on the leader and the team. There is NOTHING like this on the left with the mainstream Democratic Party.

As to you. I've been a member of sports forums, and you act just like a fanboy from an opposing team. You sit on a liberal message board and mostly spend your time being contrary and attacking liberals. Or gloating on a liberal message like a child about elections, like you did in the midterms. That's exactly what trolls from other teams do in the sports world.

Like GoU said, you completely described yourself in your OP. It's amazing you are this self unaware. You ARE a political fan boy. You cheer for the GOP like it’s a football team. It doesn’t matter how low the party sinks, or what the leaders you vote for do, you will spin, defend, deny, spread disinformation and deflect for them, no matter what. That's not being objective. You also often preface your points with "I believe," instead of facts.

You constantly root for the liberals to fail, evidenced by the constant attacks and disinformation you parrot. You do not read links or even attempt to, because they impede your world view. You often do childish attacks then run off. You are the very definition of political fan boy and I’ve been pointing that out for years. I've always called you a cheerleader for the GOP, because you are.

Other points. There is nothing wrong with criticizing Biden. There are criticisms of Biden from people on this board. But that's not what you do. You trash Biden and cheer for him to fail. You've been trashing Biden even before he stepped into office. You do the same with Harris. When you're asked for specific information on his "failures," you don't offer any, just talking points that you parrot from the Fox News universe. When data is pointed out you either ignore it and keep repeating yourself or you call the source a lying liberal rag.

On to your point about Clinton and the Loilita Express. No one here, to my knowledge, has ever defended Bill Clinton. I certainly haven't. I've done the opposite.
Another example is the lolita express, it is very true that Trump flew on Epstein's plane at least 7 times, probably more. Which according to fanboy proves Trump to be a pedo. At the same time fanboy ignores the fact that we know Bill Clinton flew on the plane 26 times that we know of, probably more.
What you're doing is being a pretty big hypocrite regarding rumors because in that very quote you're inferring Clinton did it more, and that Clinton is a pedo.

You're also a hypocrite because you've accused Biden of sexual misconduct and you've spread disinformation about Biden having dementia. Trump has had TONS of women come forward claiming he sexually assaulted them, and he's made some pretty fucked up comments about minors and Jeff Epstein, who he considered a good friend. So no, it's not far fetched to believe he did what he's accused of. He's known for it throughout the entertainment industry and business world.

It's also been pointed out, time and time again, that when a liberal does something criminal or unethical, liberals on this board will point it out and create threads about it. Conservatives around here, on the other hand, either ignore topics about conservatives being unethical or criminal, or they defend it, as you always do when it comes to Donald Trump. So you can STFU on that.

I very much doubt anyone here believes you voted for Biden or HRC. Because all you've ever done is trash them. And you are NOT for gay rights, not in a serious way, because you vote for those who oppose them. It's just not important to you.
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The Republicans are a whole party of fanboys. They find a fearless leader, then dress up in silly hats and do behavior bordering on war.

The world's biggest fanboys follow European football and Formula 1, so I'm quite aware of the cultlike behavior and propensity to racism and violence. Currently Max Verstappen has a very large Dutch white nationalist cult that follows him everywhere, leaving a trail of racist crimes that the FIA is catching hell for right now.

We all know who acts the most like that in this country. They fell in line behind the dumbest asshole in New York, and now they can't get enough of it.
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