The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

News and events of the day
Glennfs
Posts: 10315
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:54 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by Glennfs »

ProfX wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:17 am I don't know why you put that in quotes.

We have documented evidence of Asian-Americans being attacked in this country, by people claiming they are responsible (somehow solely) for the spread of what Trump called the China Virus or Kung Flu.

I'm less offended by the silly name, then to the awful suffering it unleashed in the real world.
I am not offended by any silly names but, do get tired of some posters hypocrisy. A person who criticize a thread being called the democratic party tax increase should live by the standard they expect of others
" I am a socialist " Bernie Sanders
User avatar
ZoWie
Posts: 5108
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:39 pm
Location: The blue parts of the map

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by ZoWie »

The Asian woman who was pushed in front of the subway for being Asian would be offended too, were she not dead.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
User avatar
carmenjonze
Posts: 9614
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:06 am

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by carmenjonze »

Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:22 am I am not offended by any silly names but, do get tired of some posters hypocrisy. A person who criticize a thread being called the democratic party tax increase should live by the standard they expect of others
Millions of people are DEAD from covid, but you're butthurt over a thread title from two weeks ago. :problem:

This is from last year. More Than 9,000 Anti-Asian Incidents Have Been Reported Since The Pandemic Began - NPR

A year later, nothing has changed. COVID-19 Has Driven Racism And Violence Against Asian Americans: Perspectives From 12 National Polls - Health Affairs

A year later, the kingmaker of your party is still throwing around terms like "China Virus" to this day.

If you actually knew anyone of Asian descent, you MIGHT have a chance of understanding what the legacy of this kind of ethnic scapegoating has to do with it. Much of it started in mid-1800s/early 1900s San Francisco.

You would have loved it here. It was full of dumb, violent conservative whites like you.

So yes, true to form, do keep whining because I made a thread entitled "Ralph Norman Was at KlanPAC" while hundreds of thousands of people have died in this country due to white-conservative antivaxxer policies, and as anti-Asian violence is on the rise due to racist epithets like "China Virus."

This is how white-consersvative snowflakery and pearl-clutching works, the kind that gets kids like Emmitt Till found at the bottom of the river.
________________________________

The way to right wrongs is to
Shine the light of truth on them.

~ Ida B. Wells
________________________________
User avatar
ProfX
Posts: 4087
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:15 pm
Location: Earth

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by ProfX »

Words can kill, and Trump over and over again was told, including by others in his own party, to stop calling the virus that.

He didn't. Again, as I said, I'm not offended so much by the words, as I am by the documented rise in attacks on Asian people during COVID, & the attackers who echoed this same name for the virus when asked why they did what they did.

And that Donald Trump is STILL calling the virus that in 2022, because sociopathically, he still doesn't care. :|
"Don't believe every quote attributed to people on the Internet" -- Abraham Lincoln :D
User avatar
carmenjonze
Posts: 9614
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:06 am

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by carmenjonze »

________________________________

The way to right wrongs is to
Shine the light of truth on them.

~ Ida B. Wells
________________________________
User avatar
ProfX
Posts: 4087
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:15 pm
Location: Earth

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by ProfX »

RFK Jr.’s anti-vaccine group kicked off Instagram, Facebook
https://apnews.com/article/covid-techno ... c522dde083

Instagram and Facebook suspended Children’s Health Defense this week after the anti-vaccine group led by Robert Kennedy Jr. repeatedly violated rules prohibiting misinformation about COVID-19.

A nonprofit, Children’s Health Defense is one of the most influential anti-vaccine organizations active on social media, where it has spread misleading claims about vaccines and other public health measures designed to control the pandemic.

[snip][end]

Sayonara.
"Don't believe every quote attributed to people on the Internet" -- Abraham Lincoln :D
User avatar
carmenjonze
Posts: 9614
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:06 am

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by carmenjonze »

ProfX wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:08 am RFK Jr.’s anti-vaccine group kicked off Instagram, Facebook
https://apnews.com/article/covid-techno ... c522dde083

Instagram and Facebook suspended Children’s Health Defense this week after the anti-vaccine group led by Robert Kennedy Jr. repeatedly violated rules prohibiting misinformation about COVID-19.

A nonprofit, Children’s Health Defense is one of the most influential anti-vaccine organizations active on social media, where it has spread misleading claims about vaccines and other public health measures designed to control the pandemic.

[snip][end]

Sayonara.
bye
________________________________

The way to right wrongs is to
Shine the light of truth on them.

~ Ida B. Wells
________________________________
User avatar
ProfX
Posts: 4087
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:15 pm
Location: Earth

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by ProfX »

Panel: Trump staffers pushed unproven COVID treatment at FDA
https://apnews.com/article/hydroxychlor ... 54680d6004

WASHINGTON (AP) — Officials in the Trump White House tried to pressure U.S. health experts into reauthorizing a discredited COVID-19 treatment, according to a congressional investigation that provides new evidence of that administration’s efforts to override Food and Drug Administration decisions early in the pandemic.

The report Wednesday by the Democratic-led House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis also sheds new light on the role that television personalities played in bringing hydroxychloroquine to the attention of top White House officials. Investigators highlighted an email from Fox News’ Laura Ingraham and others from Dr. Mehmet Oz, the celebrity heart surgeon who had a daytime TV show and is now the Republican Senate nominee in Pennsylvania. Ingraham attended an Oval Office meeting with President Donald Trump, who himself took the anti-malaria drug.

The FDA originally authorized use of hydroxychloroquine in late March 2020 based on small studies suggesting it could have some effectiveness against the coronavirus. At that time, many researchers hoped that existing antiviral drugs could be used to fight the virus. But by June, FDA officials had concluded the drug was likely ineffective and could cause potentially dangerous heart complications, revoking its emergency use.

Efforts by the Trump administration to control the release of COVID-19 guidance and install political operatives at public health agencies have been well documented.

[snip]

But Hahn told investigators that he felt pressure due to the “persistence” of Trump aide Peter Navarro’s calls to reauthorize hydroxychloroquine after the FDA’s decision to pull its emergency use.

[snip]

“Dr. Hatfill and Mr. Navarro devised multiple pressure schemes targeting FDA and federal officials who they contended were wrongly impeding widespread access to hydroxychloroquine,” according to the report.

[snip]

As previously reported, the White House objected to an FDA requirement that vaccine makers gather two months of safety data before filing their applications, contending that condition would delay the launch of the shots. Trump had repeatedly stated the shots would be authorized before Election Day, despite government scientists signaling that timeline was unlikely.

[snip][end]

Pushing pseudoscientific therapies like HCQ, trying to cut corners on safety trials for political rather than medical reasons ... this is why I didn't trust what was coming out of Trumplandia.
"Don't believe every quote attributed to people on the Internet" -- Abraham Lincoln :D
User avatar
ZoWie
Posts: 5108
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:39 pm
Location: The blue parts of the map

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by ZoWie »

He also really did tell people that they could try drinking or injecting bleach. Some did. They wound up in ICU. He never got it, and he scapegoated Fauci as one of the distractions that he does so well.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
User avatar
ProfX
Posts: 4087
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:15 pm
Location: Earth

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by ProfX »

In typical Trumpian fashion, he would later say that when he told people to drink bleach, or my other favorite, put UV bulbs up their arse, "he was just kidding". That was his constant "get out of awful" free card.

I of course doubt it, but even IF it were true, it's not like everybody who went to the hospital or the morgue before he cheerily said he was joking would magically revive.
"Don't believe every quote attributed to people on the Internet" -- Abraham Lincoln :D
ap215
Posts: 6050
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:41 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by ap215 »

Moderna sues Pfizer/BioNTech for patent infringement over COVID vaccine

Aug 26 (Reuters) - Moderna is suing Pfizer and its German partner BioNTech for patent infringement in the development of the first COVID-19 vaccine approved in the United States, alleging they copied technology that Moderna developed years before the pandemic.

The lawsuit, which seeks undetermined monetary damages, was being filed in U.S. District Court in Massachusetts and the Regional Court of Dusseldorf in Germany, Moderna said in a news release on Friday.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/moderna- ... 40379.html
ap215
Posts: 6050
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:41 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by ap215 »

Biden administration to stop sending free at-home Covid tests Friday

The government will end its giveaway of Covid-19 at-home tests Friday because of insufficient congressional funding, a senior Biden administration official said Sunday.

A stockpile of the tests is being depleted, and officials want to have enough on hand in the event of a fall surge, the source said.

https://www.aol.com/news/biden-administ ... 39772.html
ap215
Posts: 6050
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:41 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by ap215 »

Sotomayor denies NYPD detective's plea to block vaccine mandate

NEW YORK CITY -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor on Monday denied an appeal from a New York Police Department detective who asked for an emergency injunction to keep the city from firing him over its mandate that municipal employees be vaccinated against the coronavirus.

Detective Anthony Marciano has a lawsuit pending against the city in a federal appeals court, and his attorneys last week had petitioned Sotomayor, who oversees emergency appeals from New York and some other states, for the injunction while the case is being resolved.

https://abc7ny.com/nypd-scotus-vaccine- ... /12179874/
Bludogdem
Posts: 2054
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:16 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by Bludogdem »

Went to Costco yesterday. All the plastic barriers are gone.
User avatar
ProfX
Posts: 4087
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:15 pm
Location: Earth

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by ProfX »

Is this the so-called DeStupid success story?

Florida leads nation in COVID deaths even as cases continue to decline
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/new ... 904033001/

For the third month in a row, Florida logged more COVID-19 deaths than anywhere else in America.

The state’s COVID death toll grew by 1,614 people in August, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data shows. As coronavirus omicron subvariants swept the state this summer, Florida fatalities topped the nation from June through August.

It’s also the third summer in a row Florida has been No. 1 for COVID deaths.

The state became the national epicenter for the disease in August 2020, after Gov. Ron DeSantis began allowing businesses and public places to reopen. The state again became the COVID fatality capital of America last year in July and August, months after state officials suspended all remaining pandemic restrictions.

The disease has killed at least 80,027 Floridians since the start of the pandemic, excluding more than 3,000 victims whom state auditors found by combing through records from 2020 in which physicians classified someone's cause of death as COVID, but the state Health Department did not.

[snip]

That’s because federal money to pay for shots dried up in April when Republican senators blocked a $10 billion COVID bill using the legislative procedure known as the filibuster. That requires 60 votes to overcome, but 52 senators, including Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, voted against ending a filibuster.

[snip][end]
"Don't believe every quote attributed to people on the Internet" -- Abraham Lincoln :D
Bludogdem
Posts: 2054
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:16 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by Bludogdem »

ProfX wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:00 am Is this the so-called DeStupid success story?

Florida leads nation in COVID deaths even as cases continue to decline
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/new ... 904033001/

For the third month in a row, Florida logged more COVID-19 deaths than anywhere else in America.

The state’s COVID death toll grew by 1,614 people in August, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data shows. As coronavirus omicron subvariants swept the state this summer, Florida fatalities topped the nation from June through August.

It’s also the third summer in a row Florida has been No. 1 for COVID deaths.

The state became the national epicenter for the disease in August 2020, after Gov. Ron DeSantis began allowing businesses and public places to reopen. The state again became the COVID fatality capital of America last year in July and August, months after state officials suspended all remaining pandemic restrictions.

The disease has killed at least 80,027 Floridians since the start of the pandemic, excluding more than 3,000 victims whom state auditors found by combing through records from 2020 in which physicians classified someone's cause of death as COVID, but the state Health Department did not.

[snip]

That’s because federal money to pay for shots dried up in April when Republican senators blocked a $10 billion COVID bill using the legislative procedure known as the filibuster. That requires 60 votes to overcome, but 52 senators, including Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, voted against ending a filibuster.

[snip][end]
Florida’s a state with the oldest population. 92%+ of Covid deaths are people over 50. It’s going to naturally be a bigger number
User avatar
ProfX
Posts: 4087
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:15 pm
Location: Earth

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by ProfX »

No, it isn't. I know all the jokes about "G-d's Waiting Room" but ... by percentage, perhaps, by absolute numbers, no.

Where Do Seniors Live in the United States?
https://www.towncaredental.com/where-do ... ted-states

By Total: California has the highest number of seniors in the U.S. with a total of 5,148,448 residents ages 65 and older. But that is likely because California also has the highest population out of the states. Second in line is Florida, with a total number of 3,926,889 seniors.

From late last year -- sorry, the COVID coverup here was real (whether Rebekah Jones wins or loses) ...

University of Florida launches investigation into reports of pressure to destroy COVID research
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/edu ... 492538001/

There was external pressure to destroy COVID-19 data and inconsistencies in procedures for things like data destruction
A State of Florida government entity created barriers to and delayed publication of COVID-19 data
University of Florida employees were told verbally not to criticize Gov. Ron DeSantis or UF policies related to Covid-19 in media interactions

[snip][end]

That is NOT governing in the sunshine.
"Don't believe every quote attributed to people on the Internet" -- Abraham Lincoln :D
Bludogdem
Posts: 2054
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:16 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by Bludogdem »

ProfX wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:13 am No, it isn't. I know all the jokes about "G-d's Waiting Room" but ... by percentage, perhaps, by absolute numbers, no.

Where Do Seniors Live in the United States?
https://www.towncaredental.com/where-do ... ted-states

By Total: California has the highest number of seniors in the U.S. with a total of 5,148,448 residents ages 65 and older. But that is likely because California also has the highest population out of the states. Second in line is Florida, with a total number of 3,926,889 seniors.

From late last year -- sorry, the COVID coverup here was real (whether Rebekah Jones wins or loses) ...

University of Florida launches investigation into reports of pressure to destroy COVID research
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/edu ... 492538001/

There was external pressure to destroy COVID-19 data and inconsistencies in procedures for things like data destruction
A State of Florida government entity created barriers to and delayed publication of COVID-19 data
University of Florida employees were told verbally not to criticize Gov. Ron DeSantis or UF policies related to Covid-19 in media interactions

[snip][end]

That is NOT governing in the sunshine.
Yes it is. I didn’t say it was “the” state. I said it was “a” state with an older population. By your post it’s second, so it’s clearly a state with and older population. Factor in that Florida is a less healthy state than California and you’re gonna get get some high death numbers, sometimes the highest. Given that “ For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death” an older less healthy population is going to be a leader in Covid deaths.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... /index.htm

Some interesting data in the CDC link. Especially the age data.
gounion
Posts: 17255
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:59 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by gounion »

Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:22 am I am not offended by any silly names but, do get tired of some posters hypocrisy. A person who criticize a thread being called the democratic party tax increase should live by the standard they expect of others
You are offended when being called a redneck.

Hypocrite.
User avatar
Libertas
Posts: 6468
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:16 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by Libertas »

gounion wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:05 pm You are offended when being called a redneck.

Hypocrite.
I was reminded today of the GOP senators who board cons love who went to RUSSIA on the 4th OFJULY four years ago to get their marching orders.

The fact that they said the reason for the trip was to WARN putin about meddling in our elections

insert here pic of laughing hysterically...
I sigh in your general direction.
User avatar
ProfX
Posts: 4087
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:15 pm
Location: Earth

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by ProfX »

I'm not disputing that demographic statistics have played a role, I don't understand the reluctance to discuss COVID policies, or lack thereof.
"Don't believe every quote attributed to people on the Internet" -- Abraham Lincoln :D
gounion
Posts: 17255
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:59 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by gounion »

I went to my doctor last Friday for a checkup (came through with flying colors) and spoke with my doctor a lot about COVID. First, I do have several at-home tests. She says if I or my wife come down with symptoms and test positive, to immediately contact the office, and she'll do a remote visit and prescribe Paxlovid, she says it's extremely effective.

Also, we talked about the new vax out - she told me to wait for a couple of weeks, and contact her. She's wanting to see some of the data before recommending it. She's very happy my wife and I are 4X vaxed so far.

So I'll wait to speak with her again before getting the new vax.
User avatar
Libertas
Posts: 6468
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:16 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by Libertas »

gounion wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:45 pm I went to my doctor last Friday for a checkup (came through with flying colors) and spoke with my doctor a lot about COVID. First, I do have several at-home tests. She says if I or my wife come down with symptoms and test positive, to immediately contact the office, and she'll do a remote visit and prescribe Paxlovid, she says it's extremely effective.

Also, we talked about the new vax out - she told me to wait for a couple of weeks, and contact her. She's wanting to see some of the data before recommending it. She's very happy my wife and I are 4X vaxed so far.

So I'll wait to speak with her again before getting the new vax.
I was going to get the bivalent omicron vax today but they don't have it yet, I was going to get the senior flu shot at the same time but because it has so much more medicine in it I might wanna wait a week to get the flu shot after the bivalent.

Not sure why your doc is saying that, everything I read says all systems go. I guess caution is important.

I asked about Paxlovid also and my doc sent me a list of contraindications rx, statins are one...some blood pressure meds also. I told my doc I wanted to have it NOW just in case but no go...
I sigh in your general direction.
gounion
Posts: 17255
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:59 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by gounion »

Libertas wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 3:04 pm I was going to get the bivalent omicron vax today but they don't have it yet, I was going to get the senior flu shot at the same time but because it has so much more medicine in it I might wanna wait a week to get the flu shot after the bivalent.

Not sure why your doc is saying that, everything I read says all systems go. I guess caution is important.

I asked about Paxlovid also and my doc sent me a list of contraindications rx, statins are one...some blood pressure meds also. I told my doc I wanted to have it NOW just in case but no go...
She said its because she's blind to it now - wants to see some data before SHE recommends it, and that will come out as the vaxes do. She's not recommending AGAINST it, she just wants to know more before she personally puts her rec on it.

Yes, she also mentioned that there would be some meds I couldn't take with the Paxlovid, but we'd talk about that before she prescibed it if I caught COVID.

She's an excellent Doc.
User avatar
Libertas
Posts: 6468
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:16 pm

Re: The Covid-19 Pandemic Thread

Post by Libertas »

gounion wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 3:10 pm She said its because she's blind to it now - wants to see some data before SHE recommends it, and that will come out as the vaxes do. She's not recommending AGAINST it, she just wants to know more before she personally puts her rec on it.

Yes, she also mentioned that there would be some meds I couldn't take with the Paxlovid, but we'd talk about that before she prescibed it if I caught COVID.

She's an excellent Doc.
Oh I believe you, it is just that I had no reservations until now :lol: ...but probably most docs say the same thing.
I sigh in your general direction.
Post Reply