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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:50 pm 
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It's a daunting quest. For a start, it's so subjective. It's also like finding the worst fish in the ocean. There's an awful lot of data to go through, and they keep making new ones.

Wikipedia gives it a shot here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... orst#Songs

Even Wiki admits right up front that it's never going to be resolved, but their writer(s) gave it a fairly good shot. They came up with a list that notes all the high spots. They included Built This City on Rock and Roll, the tune everyone loves to hate for its commercial genesis and utter silliness. They do make the point, however obliquely, that some of the worst songs ever conceived still made mega-hits. Examples: McArthur Park (original whiny overwrought version), and Achy Breaky Heart.

They also did the right thing in leaving off tunes which were SUPPOSED to be bad. Good examples are Surfin' Bird and They're Coming to Take Me Away. Off the list. Conceptual art isn't rated.

This got me going on a personal list, but it's hard. I always found the commercialization of psychedelic to be a bit much, really, but most people couldn't get enough of it. It's a good place to start.

Itchykoo Park
Mostly a celebration of teenage dopers dropping out of school and waiting to die. And like a lot of its genre, featuring vocalists that either couldn't sing or thought it was too much like their decadent parents to even try. The "middle 8" sounds like someone patched in the phase shifter wrong, and decided it sounded really cool on whatever they'd been smoking, so they left it in. Didn't even sound that good stoned. There's Santana and Indian music for that.

Incense, Peppermints
I think this one was made up in the studio, and I know they had to go down the hall and snag someone working on another project to sing the lead. Makes it hard to do on the road. The words are meaningless, don't even try. And smoking weed won't help.


moving along...

Macarena
Remember that whole summer when you heard that thing every 5 minutes? Admittedly the words are kind of cute, with "Dame a la cuerpo alegria Macarena" being a legal way to say "lets f--k" on the radio. But really now. And the dance was another one of those things that anyone over 13 looked silly doing.

Cars with the Boom
Madonna would do anything for a buck, and outrage always sells. The video would have been good, had she been a conceptual artist seeking to point out cultural decay instead of a commercial enterprise seeking to separate the most city kids from the most money in the least time. She did look nice in the video, crawling all over those giant speakers, as if in copulation, but (again) really now. Dumb tune, dumb words, silly idea. Contributed to the brief, and highly annoying, phase in L.A. when everyone wanted to drive around in a PA system.

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Actually, I like both Itchcoo Park and Incense and Peppermints. They were part of the diverse music of the 60s.

I'll add to the list of worst songs.

You Light Up My Life by Debbie Boone. Overplayed when it came out to the point it's still nauseating today.

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Like I was saying, a lot of people thought commercialized L.A. teenage psychedelia on 45 RPM singles was just fine, and I have no problem with that. It's too long ago and I was too young, but I vaguely remember the Blues Magoos got out one or two nice sounding hits, and Steppenwolf had its moments.

I used to give out of towners the rock tour of Hollywood and environs. You know, the place where the real Riot on Sunset Strip started, the place where Frank Zappa and the GTOs lived in a house made of railroad ties, Ben Franks, Gazzari's, the club formerly known as The Trip, etc. The problem is that everything except Canter's Deli, the Whiskey, and the building across from Hollywood HS where they recorded Freak Out! is gone.

That really was L.A.'s golden age, and I missed it. Those older guys who could drive themselves around at night had all the fun. Now it's about as exciting as watching General Motors make cars, and for about the same reasons.

Let's get back to that long and probably futile quest for The Worst Song Ever.

You Light Up My Life, which we always called You Slide Up My Wife, is a good candidate and worthy of addition to the list.

Material Girl is another one from the Madonna pantheon which deserves consideration. Dumb words, worse music, and the video was like watching someone's failed attempt at a home porno. Still, it damaged a generation.

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Mamas and Papas couldn't do anything wrong.

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Best of the Bad Songs

The song is not so great, but the cars are neat-o.

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I did my best. As soon as you say something is bad, someone will say they like it.

It's impossible. Oh wait. That song drove me nuts.

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That was a good car. They have clubs for the restored ones now. The song, well, not so much.

BTW the Beach Boys didn't do the original. All those surfy L.A. bands covered it. I had to Google it to remember who did it, and it was Ronnie and the Daytonas. Methinks a one hit wonder if ever there was one.

The dying stages of surf music are another fertile source for Worst Song contenders. Dick Dale, otherwise a guitar virtuoso, did some real clunkers.

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(ducking rocks thrown) Anything Mark Knopfler did after he left Dire Straits. :)

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There is a Wikipedia list of worst songs ever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... _the_worst

Getting everybody to agree on said list, they admit, was a difficulty, which leads to the above saying.

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Many would agree any song ever played by Dr. Demento or on his albums would qualify for the list. I used to listen to Dr. Demento when he was on the radio and I own his 25th Anniversary album. The songs were definitely different from what what was heard or the radio. Here's some of the favorites from Dr. Demento:

Junk Food Junkie
Dead Puppies
Star Trekkin'
Masochism Tango
The Ballad of Irving
Fish Heads
Poisoning Pigeons in the Park
The Cockroach that Ate New York
Pencil Neck Geek
Existential Blues

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Dr. D was a mainstay in L.A. for many years. He also, I believe, taught at UCLA under (obviously) a different name.

It's hard to make judgments on some of his stuff, because often it was meant to be bad, as a parody or just to be weird. Being weird is fun, and has a certain affinity to contemporary art.

Plus some of the tunes like Irving are comedy.

You'd also have to add:

Santa Jaws is Coming to Town
Locked in the Closet with You
It's Still Billy Joel to Me
Another One Rides the Bus

("And another gets on, and another gets on / Another one rides the bus / Hey! he's gonna sit by you! / Another one rides the bus!")

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Dr. D was a mainstay in L.A. for many years. He also, I believe, taught at UCLA under (obviously) a different name.

It's hard to make judgments on some of his stuff, because often it was meant to be bad, as a parody or just to be weird. Being weird is fun, and has a certain affinity to contemporary art.

Plus some of the tunes like Irving are comedy.

You'd also have to add:

Santa Jaws is Coming to Town
Locked in the Closet with You
It's Still Billy Joel to Me
Another One Rides the Bus

("And another gets on, and another gets on / Another one rides the bus / Hey! he's gonna sit by you! / Another one rides the bus!")

You're correct about Dr. Demento. In the early 80s, is was stationed in Victorville, Ca and we got all the L.A. channels and one of them did a news segment on him. He may look silly with the top hat and beard but he was a very smart and knowledgeable on music. It turned out he gave lectures on various music genres from silly songs to rock-n-roll to classical music. They toured his house and it was filled with shelves of albums and singles, I mean literally filled almost like a hoarder.

Dr. Demento never took his program serious but loved to show off the humorous side of music. Weird Al Yankovic got his start on the Dr. Demento Show when he was in his teens.

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We need some sort of countdown before "My Sharona" is added to this list of worst songs ever?


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Ok, my entry for the absolute worst song ever performed, and for various reasons, is "Garbage Dump," by Charles Manson.

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You know, it's a really good thing these lists are limited mostly to radio tunes.

You should hear the swill Evangelical megachurches assault their congregations with, Sunday in and Sunday out. :?

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You know, it's a really good thing these lists are limited mostly to radio tunes.

You should hear the swill Evangelical megachurches assault their congregations with, Sunday in and Sunday out. :?


LOL. Would imagine that not all Cantors are all that grand to listen to, either.


Figure there are similar problems in all religious traditions.


Of course (and you know this way better than I do), on the other side, when they get it right, it is some of the best music ever created by us mere mortals.


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Ok, worst song ever is gonna be whatever I happen to be singing in the shower.


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LOL. Would imagine that not all Cantors are all that grand to listen to, either.


Figure there are similar problems in all religious traditions.


Of course (and you know this way better than I do), on the other side, when they get it right, it is some of the best music ever created by us mere mortals.


Perhaps. But with Evangelical megachurches, mmm I don't see that ever happening. lol

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Many would agree any song ever played by Dr. Demento or on his albums would qualify for the list. I used to listen to Dr. Demento when he was on the radio and I own his 25th Anniversary album. The songs were definitely different from what what was heard or the radio. Here's some of the favorites from Dr. Demento:

Junk Food Junkie
Dead Puppies
Star Trekkin'
Masochism Tango
The Ballad of Irving
Fish Heads
Poisoning Pigeons in the Park
The Cockroach that Ate New York
Pencil Neck Geek
Existential Blues


Yeah that guy saved my sanity, growing up in stupid LA suburbs. Snuck and listened to him faithfully every Sunday, just as faithfully as we attended church.

Same for Dr. Ruth Westheimer on KROQ, right after. What a time and place to grow up a queer adolescent.

Although, I never got into "Pencil Neck Geek". Even at that early age, I recognized it for the really nasty anti-integration/desegration song it was, though it was actually very likely social commentary. Fred Blassie was a hell of a guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Blassie

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Perhaps. But with Evangelical megachurches, mmm I don't see that ever happening. lol


Indeed, pretty difficult to imagine that megachurches would ever be responsible for creating great music.



That alone should be seen as a red flag about the nature of how such institutions are operating and what they are hoping to achieve.


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Indeed, pretty difficult to imagine that megachurches would ever be responsible for creating great music.



That alone should be seen as a red flag about the nature of how such institutions are operating and what they are hoping to achieve.


Yeah. Although one thing I can say for them or at least my experience with them: they do know what they're doing regarding sound design for large spaces. That's probably the only compliment I can give them, lol

Maybe I can also give Evangelical piano techinques some props because it really opened up church pianists up to the full 88 keys, that if you don't already have classical training, can be useful. But man...the sht their megachurch aesthetic heirs are coming up with these days..blah. And yeah it does tell us a lot about what they find important.

81% for Trump...I guess this is why I harp on their culture all the time. :problem:

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Yeah that guy saved my sanity, growing up in stupid LA suburbs. Snuck and listened to him faithfully every Sunday, just as faithfully as we attended church.

Same for Dr. Ruth Westheimer on KROQ, right after. What a time and place to grow up a queer adolescent.

Although, I never got into "Pencil Neck Geek". Even at that early age, I recognized it for the really nasty anti-integration/desegration song it was, though it was actually very likely social commentary. Fred Blassie was a hell of a guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Blassie

I believe he was on the Westwood One radio network. I, too, listened to him on Sunday Nights out of their L.A. station. IIRC, he came on at either 10 or 11 pm.

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I believe he was on the Westwood One radio network. I, too, listened to him on Sunday Nights out of their L.A. station. IIRC, he came on at either 10 or 11 pm.


In Los Angeles, where Dr D's show was put together, it was:

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KMET


KMET and KLOS were the two main rock and roll stations in Los Angeles during those years (70's, 80's, and into the early 90's). KROQ mostly went after the younger, more "progressive" rock and roll crowd (beginning around 1980). Only, I did not have to sneak about to listen to KROQ. I blasted the hell out of whatever I wanted to and nobody ever gave me any grief over it.


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