2022 Elections Thread
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Trump just said the reason they were at his Maralargo doing the search was looking for Hillary's emails.
I just heard him say it.
I just heard him say it.
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Proven to be one of the dumbest people to run for office in decades, and he is ahead in some of the polls.
Broken.
Whether dumb like trump or brain damage from football, same result.
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Manipulatable in both cases, is all these demagogues and dupes of demagoges care about.
They do not like Black people whom they can't manipulate, which is most Black people.
Well, they don't like anybody they can't manipulate, which is also why they detest most everyone but themselves.
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He also stated that the documents became de-classified as soon as he had them shipped to Mar-a-Lago and he didn't send them to that "extremist left-wing" National Archives for fear they wouldn't give them back to him. Which they shouldn't because they don't belong to him in the first place.
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Italy's own MTG. :problem:
Giorgia Meloni's right triumphs in Italy's election
ROME, Sept 26 (Reuters) - Giorgia Meloni looks set to become Italy's first woman prime minister at the head of its most right-wing government since World War Two after leading a conservative alliance to triumph at Sunday's election.
Provisional results showed the rightist bloc should have a strong majority in both houses of parliament, potentially giving Italy a rare chance of political stability after years of upheaval and fragile coalitions.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/gi ... 022-09-26/
Giorgia Meloni's right triumphs in Italy's election
ROME, Sept 26 (Reuters) - Giorgia Meloni looks set to become Italy's first woman prime minister at the head of its most right-wing government since World War Two after leading a conservative alliance to triumph at Sunday's election.
Provisional results showed the rightist bloc should have a strong majority in both houses of parliament, potentially giving Italy a rare chance of political stability after years of upheaval and fragile coalitions.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/gi ... 022-09-26/
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https://www.npr.org/2022/03/07/10846813 ... aw-for-now
Since this benefits cons, SC refuses to take the case knowing the gerrymandering is unconstitutional. If gop takes the house it will be illegitimate and I will respond accordingly.Supreme Court stays out of key state rulings on partisan gerrymandering, for now
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The election is two months away and you folks on the left are already claiming they aren't legit.Libertas wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:50 pm https://www.npr.org/2022/03/07/10846813 ... aw-for-now
Since this benefits cons, SC refuses to take the case knowing the gerrymandering is unconstitutional. If gop takes the house it will be illegitimate and I will respond accordingly.
The very same thing you condemn Maga for doing
" I am a socialist " Bernie Sanders
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No so fast.bengal59 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:44 am He also stated that the documents became de-classified as soon as he had them shipped to Mar-a-Lago and he didn't send them to that "extremist left-wing" National Archives for fear they wouldn't give them back to him. Which they shouldn't because they don't belong to him in the first place.
There is recent case law that exposes the ambiguity of the Presidential Records Act and the lack of authority of the NARA with regards to what’s presidential and what’s private.
Decision from Amy Bergman Jackson
https://casetext.com/case/judicial-watc ... ords-admin
Of note:
“ NARA does not have the authority to designate materials as “Presidential records”
“ In the Court's view, plaintiff reads too much into this statement. Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President's term and in his sole discretion, see44 U.S.C. § 2203(b), so the Deputy Archivist could not and did not make a classification decision that can be challenged here. ”
The simple act of boxing and sending the material to mar a logo could be reasoned as a declaration of personal property. Gets very muddy at this point.
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what would you know about it.
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No, it doesn’t get muddy at this point.
1. A president can’t declassify high level top secret documents on his own.
2. Those documents do NOT belong to Trump. They are the property of the US government.
3. The other main issue is obstruction of justice. Trump lied. His lawyers lied. He refused to hand over documents that DO NOT BELONG TO HIM.
Once again, the sock account is defending a traitor.
1. A president can’t declassify high level top secret documents on his own.
2. Those documents do NOT belong to Trump. They are the property of the US government.
3. The other main issue is obstruction of justice. Trump lied. His lawyers lied. He refused to hand over documents that DO NOT BELONG TO HIM.
Once again, the sock account is defending a traitor.
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When I was in the AF, we had a saying that went "If it's not documented then you didn't do it." Almost all of our work was documented in some way whether it was training records, supply requests, change of station or TDY orders, etc.. When inspectors checked our records they looked at the documents needed to prove something was done. With the documents found at Mar-a-Lago if Trump had declassified them then there would have been a paper/computer trail documenting their declassification. All Trump would have to do is provide that documentation. No documentation means the documents weren't declassified.Drak wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:39 pm No, it doesn’t get muddy at this point.
1. A president can’t declassify high level top secret documents on his own.
2. Those documents do NOT belong to Trump. They are the property of the US government.
3. The other main issue is obstruction of justice. Trump lied. His lawyers lied. He refused to hand over documents that DO NOT BELONG TO HIM.
Once again, the sock account is defending a traitor.
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All I’m pointing out is there is are federal court decisions that may well establish a defense. There are no simply documentation requirements in the Presidential Records Act The courts have said the President can declare anything personal. NARA cant declare items presidential. By implication, it’s possible a court could infer by simply boxing up items to go with the president when leaving office as personal, that also constitutes declassification. In the decision posted there is discussion that government parties could, after the fact, seek reclassification. As I said “not so fast.” It’s a muddy area. And AG Garland knows about these federal cases. He also knows the PRA has issues of constitutionality and does he want to risk bringing a case that could eliminate the act. With the current SC the PRA is iffy. And if the PRA goes all record and documents of the presidential term are his.Number6 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:44 am When I was in the AF, we had a saying that went "If it's not documented then you didn't do it." Almost all of our work was documented in some way whether it was training records, supply requests, change of station or TDY orders, etc.. When inspectors checked our records they looked at the documents needed to prove something was done. With the documents found at Mar-a-Lago if Trump had declassified them then there would have been a paper/computer trail documenting their declassification. All Trump would have to do is provide that documentation. No documentation means the documents weren't declassified.
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Proof by repeated assertion.
“Because I said so” means utterly nothing, especially coming from a stupid sock account.
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Of course it is defending a traitor who supports the murder of thousands of children in the Ukraine. Hell, it will support YOUR murder and mine anyday now. COUNT on it.Drak wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:39 pm No, it doesn’t get muddy at this point.
1. A president can’t declassify high level top secret documents on his own.
2. Those documents do NOT belong to Trump. They are the property of the US government.
3. The other main issue is obstruction of justice. Trump lied. His lawyers lied. He refused to hand over documents that DO NOT BELONG TO HIM.
Once again, the sock account is defending a traitor.
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There's a difference between having the power to do something, and that power being unilateral, secret, and unreviewable.
Yes, the POTUS can declassify anything. No, that power is not unilateral, he can't do it in secret just by thinking about it, it could be reviewable by intel and other agencies, and if the process completes, the documents should be marked and stamped "declassified".
A post facto statement about telepathic processes, esp. once out of office, means nothing. If those documents were declassified, there should be a paper trail, and they should be marked as such.
I notice his attorneys seem unwilling to provide documentation.
Yes, the POTUS can declassify anything. No, that power is not unilateral, he can't do it in secret just by thinking about it, it could be reviewable by intel and other agencies, and if the process completes, the documents should be marked and stamped "declassified".
A post facto statement about telepathic processes, esp. once out of office, means nothing. If those documents were declassified, there should be a paper trail, and they should be marked as such.
I notice his attorneys seem unwilling to provide documentation.
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UNANIMOUS VOTE in the Senate to make sure a future VP cant overturn election but for ONE Senator
You dont have to guess, Cruz of course.
He is saying he does NOT want a Republic or a Democracy and he wants a fascist state. No other interpretation.
GOP finally did something for the country.
You dont have to guess, Cruz of course.
He is saying he does NOT want a Republic or a Democracy and he wants a fascist state. No other interpretation.
GOP finally did something for the country.
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Brazil election goes to runoff as Bolsonaro outperforms polls
Brazil’s presidential election is headed for a run-off vote, electoral authorities said on Sunday, October 2, after President Jair Bolsonaro’s surprising strength in the first round spoiled rival Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva’s hopes of winning outright.
With 99.7% of electronic votes counted, Lula was ahead with 48.4% of votes versus 43.3% for Bolsonaro, the national electoral authority reported. As neither got a majority of support, the race will go to a second-round vote on October 30.
https://www.rappler.com/world/latin-ame ... er-3-2022/
Brazil’s presidential election is headed for a run-off vote, electoral authorities said on Sunday, October 2, after President Jair Bolsonaro’s surprising strength in the first round spoiled rival Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva’s hopes of winning outright.
With 99.7% of electronic votes counted, Lula was ahead with 48.4% of votes versus 43.3% for Bolsonaro, the national electoral authority reported. As neither got a majority of support, the race will go to a second-round vote on October 30.
https://www.rappler.com/world/latin-ame ... er-3-2022/
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Looks like we got a runoff between Bolso and Lula!
Hopefully, bye bolso in a month or so ... fingers crossed.
Hopefully, bye bolso in a month or so ... fingers crossed.
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Ongoing US support to Ukraine could prompt Russian cyber escalation in midterms, experts warn
With Russia continuing to face setbacks in its war against Ukraine, experts warn Russian President Vladimir Putin may escalate his cyber operations in the November midterms as retaliation for U.S. involvement in the conflict.
Recent cyberattacks against U.S. state government and airport websites that Moscow-backed hackers have claimed responsibility for may have been testing grounds for such Russian efforts to interfere in the upcoming election, posits James Turgal, vice president of cyber consultancy Optiv.
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurit ... erts-warn/
With Russia continuing to face setbacks in its war against Ukraine, experts warn Russian President Vladimir Putin may escalate his cyber operations in the November midterms as retaliation for U.S. involvement in the conflict.
Recent cyberattacks against U.S. state government and airport websites that Moscow-backed hackers have claimed responsibility for may have been testing grounds for such Russian efforts to interfere in the upcoming election, posits James Turgal, vice president of cyber consultancy Optiv.
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurit ... erts-warn/
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Hit The Road Jack: Brown Defeats Hennessy Convincingly In Second State House Primary
It’s been a long journey from a hot August summer into the cool of the October autumn, but Tuesday night, following a court-ordered new Democratic primary, City Councilman Marcus Brown cemented his hold on the predominately North End 127th State House District defeating long-term incumbent Jack Hennessy, according to unofficial returns.
Brown blew out Hennessy with the walk-in vote larger than the August numbers, with more 60 percent of the vote covering three precincts, backed by the city’s political establishment that coalesced against anti-vaxxer Hennessy, his Campaign Manager City Councilwoman Maria Pereira, as well as operatives whose race card and gay bashing backfired.
https://onlyinbridgeport.com/wordpress/ ... e-primary/
It’s been a long journey from a hot August summer into the cool of the October autumn, but Tuesday night, following a court-ordered new Democratic primary, City Councilman Marcus Brown cemented his hold on the predominately North End 127th State House District defeating long-term incumbent Jack Hennessy, according to unofficial returns.
Brown blew out Hennessy with the walk-in vote larger than the August numbers, with more 60 percent of the vote covering three precincts, backed by the city’s political establishment that coalesced against anti-vaxxer Hennessy, his Campaign Manager City Councilwoman Maria Pereira, as well as operatives whose race card and gay bashing backfired.
https://onlyinbridgeport.com/wordpress/ ... e-primary/
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GA election officials investigating after suspected fake ballot discovered at early voting location
SPALDING COUNTY, Ga. — State election officials say a possibly fake ballot was discovered at an early voting location in Spalding County Wednesday morning, officials confirmed to Channel 2 Action News.
A full-scale investigation is now underway about who created it and why.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/ga-ele ... UKFWGXC5Y/
SPALDING COUNTY, Ga. — State election officials say a possibly fake ballot was discovered at an early voting location in Spalding County Wednesday morning, officials confirmed to Channel 2 Action News.
A full-scale investigation is now underway about who created it and why.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/ga-ele ... UKFWGXC5Y/
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Democracy?
Each time we vote, ten MILLION or more Demorcrats vote than repubs, more Democrats get votes than repubs, yet the fascists can win.
B R O K E N system
https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/ ... te-trackerTotal Democratic Votes: 60,727,598 (53.4%)
Total Republican Votes: 50,983,895 (44.8
Each time we vote, ten MILLION or more Demorcrats vote than repubs, more Democrats get votes than repubs, yet the fascists can win.
B R O K E N system
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After the election, republicans will be using this one-off example of someone creating a fake ballot to put more restrictive election/voting laws in place.ap215 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:31 am GA election officials investigating after suspected fake ballot discovered at early voting location
SPALDING COUNTY, Ga. — State election officials say a possibly fake ballot was discovered at an early voting location in Spalding County Wednesday morning, officials confirmed to Channel 2 Action News.
A full-scale investigation is now underway about who created it and why.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/ga-ele ... UKFWGXC5Y/
The person who made the fake ballot made a major error in that they only produced one ballot instead of dozens of ballots. Had they made dozens then it could possibly give credence to the claim of widespread voter fraud but since it was only one ballot it only showed the real purpose of doing it. I suspect if the person who did this is caught it'll turn out to be a MAGA republican.
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