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 Post subject: It's King Day.
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'nuff said.

If only conservatives knew more about King than his niece Alveda (who they heart) and that one quote (they misuse).

He said and wrote a lot of stuff. Most of which they wouldn't like.

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They don't say it out loud, but deep down, the folks on the right all still hate King. Anyone who says "take our country back" or "Make America Great Again" means an America BEFORE Martin Luther King Jr. That's when they think we went wrong.


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They don't say it out loud, but deep down, the folks on the right all still hate King. Anyone who says "take our country back" or "Make America Great Again" means an America BEFORE Martin Luther King Jr. That's when they think we went wrong.


What is sad is not that you would say that. It is that you actually believe it.

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What is sad is not that you would say that. It is that you actually believe it.

It's simply true.

What America do YOU think they are talking about? Go ahead. Give me the era.


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It's simply true.

What America do YOU think they are talking about? Go ahead. Give me the era.


It is a political slogan directed at Progressive/Democratic Party political positions.

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On Morning Joe this morning, they opened with playing a video of Ronald Reagan 31 years ago today:

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/considering-president-reagan-while-discussing-donald-trump-and-race-1137257539511

It does show how fall we've fallen. Of course, Reagan used race and the dog whistle both as California Governor and running for President. But compared to Trump, he's the greatest in the world.


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It is a political slogan directed at Progressive/Democratic Party political positions.

It's directed at blacks, and the fact that they "don't know their place". Lee Atwater admitted EXACTLY what was happening. It's why the right came up with the "southern strategy".

Conservatives want a nation back that kept blacks from having full citizenship. It's quite obvious.


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Let's just remember:

Arizona and many other states resisted making this day a holiday. Some still celebrate a Confederate holiday in its place.
Hoover and the FBI spied on, and blackmailed, MLK. They named the FBI building after him.
The Voting Rights Act of 1965, one of King's legacies, is still under attack.

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Let's just remember:

Arizona and many other states resisted making this day a holiday. Some still celebrate a Confederate holiday in its place.
Hoover and the FBI spied on, and blackmailed, MLK. They named the FBI building after him.
The Voting Rights Act of 1965, one of King's legacies, is still under attack.

Conservatives were and ARE against the holiday.

Morning Joe was correct to admit that Reagan was against the holiday, too.

You hear it in the working class. Many rednecks openly call it "N****r Day".


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What is sad is not that you would say that. It is that you actually believe it.


Bullshit. The leaders of the GOP, aside from maybe a small handful, defend Trump's racist remarks at every turn, or try to deny that he even says them.

America First! Is a KKK slogan that Trump slings around on his twitter.

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Morning Joe was correct to admit that Reagan was against the holiday, too.


Yes, up until 1983 - where this article argues he decided to try and co-opt it, instead.

http://bostonreview.net/race-politics/j ... al-justice

While campaigning for Jimmy Carter on the eve of the 1980 presidential election, King’s widow Coretta Scott King said she was “scared that if Ronald Reagan gets into office, we are going to see more of the Ku Klux Klan and a resurgence of the Nazi Party.” King’s trepidation was not unwarranted. Reagan built his political career on a foundation of anti-black civil rights. He opposed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, calling it “a bad piece of legislation.” A year later he came out against the Voting Rights Act, which he deemed “humiliating to the South.” During his 1966 California gubernatorial campaign, he defended the Golden State’s Proposition 14, which passed in 1964 and nullified the state’s fair housing law, effectively reinstating the right to discriminate in home sales and leases. “If an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house,” Reagan insisted, “it is his right to do so.” A Reagan campaign ad that same year referred to black neighborhoods as “jungles.”

Reagan never really believed King deserved a federal holiday, and the establishment of the memorialization was on its surface a hard-won victory for King’s supporters. Civil rights leaders faced immense opposition from both congress and the president in the years leading up to its passing. In October of 1983, for example, when the bill reached the senate floor, North Carolina senator Jesse Helms filibustered it, condemning King’s “calculated use of nonviolence as a provocative act,” and insisting he was a communist.

As support for the holiday gained momentum in 1981 and 1982, Reagan vehemently opposed the idea, arguing that such a tribute would cost the federal government too much money (an estimated $18 million per year) and that “we could have an awful lot of holidays if we start down that road.” On October 19, 1983, Reagan attended his bimonthly President’s News Conference in the East Room of the White House. Shortly after he took to the podium he fielded a question on King. “Mr. President,” a reporter asked, “Senator Helms has been saying on the Senate floor that Martin Luther King, Jr., had communist associations, was a communist sympathizer. Do you agree?” With no discernable pause Reagan responded, “We’ll know in about thirty-five years, won’t we?”, referring to when King’s FBI file would be unsealed.

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From 1983:

AUGUSTA, Ga., Oct. 21— President Reagan believes that sentiment for a Federal holiday for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. is ''based on an image, not reality,'' according to a letter he wrote to former Gov. Meldrim Thomson Jr. of New Hampshire.

The letter to Mr. Thomson was sent Oct. 3 in response to his plea that the President veto the proposed holiday. Mr. Reagan expressed his private reservations before publicly reversing his opposition and agreeing to approve the holiday.

Today, before arriving here for a golfing weekend, Mr. Reagan telephoned Dr. King's widow, Coretta Scott King, to apologize for any misunderstanding of his remark Wednesday that ''we will know in about 35 years'' whether Dr. King had communist sympathies. Passage in Letter Confirmed

A passage from the President's letter touching on Dr. King was released by Mr. Thomson and confirmed this evening by Administration officials. Mr. Thomson said he was releasing only the excerpt about Dr. King and not the complete text. He declined to explain why he would not release the letter.

Since leaving office in 1979 after six years as Governor, Mr. Thomson, a conservative Republican and member of the John Birch Society, has continued to press conservative causes. Mr. Thomson said he urged the veto because he considered Dr. King, the civil rights leader assassinated in 1968, to be ''a man of immoral character'' whose associations with communists were ''well established.''

Mr. Reagan replied: ''On the national holiday you mentioned, I have the reservations you have, but here the perception of too many people is based on an image, not reality. Indeed to them, the perception is reality. We hope some modifications might still take place in Congress.''

The President had endorsed a day of national recognition for Dr. King rather than a Federal holiday, citing the costs involved. But in the end, all efforts to modify the legislation were defeated as Howard H. Baker Jr. of Tennessee, the Republican leader, shepherded the bill through the Senate. Apology to Mrs. King

Upon arriving here, the President, speaking in response to a question, said that in his telephone conversation with Mrs. King, she had accepted his apology.

''We had a nice conversation,'' he said of his phone call to Mrs. King from the White House. Mrs. King had termed the remark, made by the President at his news conference Wednesday, an insult to the memory of her husband, the slain civil rights leader.

A White House spokesman said the President had telephoned Mrs. King because ''he just wanted to make sure he hadn't been misunderstood.'' A spokesman for Mrs. King reported that Mr. Reagan had told her he made a mistake and ''was wrong.''

The President's comment, in which he indicated he would approve a bill creating a Federal holiday for Dr. King, although with some reservations, has stirred controversy. At his news conference, Mr. Reagan said he would approve the holiday because ''the symbolism of that day is important enough.'' He said he did not fault ''the sincerity'' of those who wanted to obtain access to sealed files of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on Dr. King because of questions about whether he had associated with Communists. 'Know in About 35 Years'

The President was asked whether he agreed with the charges that Dr. King had Communist associations and was a Communist sympathizer. He replied, ''We'll know in about 35 years, won't we?''

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By coincidence, the President's golfing weekend is being spent at the Augusta National Golf Course, which, as civil rights leaders have complained, has no black members.


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America First! Is a KKK slogan that Trump slings around on his twitter.


Well, first used by Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh in the 30s and 40s as part of the America First committee (with definite anti-Semitic overtones), which some might say was just anti-interventionist (but I would say was also pro-fascist), then later in the 90s by Pat Buchanan.

Nothing about Trump is original.

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The reason we have an MLK Day is due to the work of the King Center and Coretta Scott King. She also placed MLK's papers with Stanford U's King Institute, which hosts them. Their archive has really grown over the years.

http://www.thekingcenter.org/

https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/inst ... -institute

Conservative whites detest EVERYTHING in these archives. All of it, including the two little half-sentences they've made into platitudes over the past couple decades. Everyone knows what they are and I'm not going to repeat them. They hate these archives because it shows the world what they are.

I still direct them to it anyway. There are a lot of phony quotes of King out there in Memeland.

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You lefties just can't stand the fact that MLK Day was signed into law by Reagan.

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You lefties just can't stand the fact that MLK Day was signed into law by Reagan.

Oh, I don't have a problem with it. We know he didn't want to, and instead of standing on principle, he caved.

Like the craven politician he was!


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What is sad is not that you would say that. It is that you actually believe it.


Oh
my
God.........

What's sad is that you apparently slept through your high school political science class.

It's really basic stuff. MAGA is the oldest tactic in the book. It's Fascism 101, but they didn't invent it either. It builds political support by telling a formerly privileged class that restoring its dominion over everyone else will cause a return to a past golden age. The major fallacy is that there was no such time. The golden age looks that way due to nostalgia. In the case of MAGA, it is the affluent and segregated 1950s, and at the time the people living through these would hardly have called it a golden age.

Or, to put it into more accessible language, MAGA is BS.

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:arrow: And what is Trump doing today? He's golfing!!

Trump Diminishes And Disgraces MLK Day By Spending The Holiday Golfing

As President, Barack Obama spent eight years turning MLK Day into a day of helping others, but Trump is diminishing the holiday by spending the day golfing. Obama turned Martin Luther King Day into a day of public service. He spent each holiday of his presidency engaged in public service and encouraged the American people to do the same. George W. Bush also did public service on MLK Day as president.

Here is what Trump is doing according to the White House press pool report provided to PoliticusUSA, “President’s motorcade arrived at Trump International Golf Course at 9:07 am.” Trump is at his private club in Florida on the taxpayers’ dime golfing.

While previous presidents elevated Martin Luther King Day, Trump is diminishing it. The Trump message is that holiday that people tirelessly worked for decades to make a reality is not worth the President Of The United States disrupting his busy schedule of tweeting and playing golf to participate in any public events. The Trump presidency has been a constant assault on everything that Dr. King stood for, and now the racist president is insulting the holiday in his honor. Presidents lead the country through their behavior, as Trump’s actions suggest that he is trying to make Martin Luther King Day go away.

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The Rev. William J. Barber II comes to Dallas bearing a tribute to Martin Luther King Jr.

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........So many years later, Barber says, "What we don't need is another celebration of the life of Dr. King, or a commemoration. What we need is to re-energize the principles of the movement and deal with the issues of racism and classism that are still very much with us. Too many people talk in platitudes about Dr. King and not about his prophetic vision," which in Barber's view foresaw the perils of America in 2018.

If King were alive now, he says, he would be "standing with DACA, with all immigrants. He would challenge a tax reform bill that transferred $2 trillion from the poor to the wealthy. He would be dealing head-on with health care and the resegregation of public schools. He would challenge a nation that spends 54 cents of every dollar on a military."

He would preach from every mountaintop, Barber contends, that a continuation of such policies will guarantee "a spiritual death."

Barber warns against "loving the tomb of the prophets but not the prophets themselves. It is dangerous to isolate Dr. King. Dr. King was all about 'we.'".......


A few words on the difficulty of voting while black.

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As we mark what would have been his 89th birthday, it seems fitting to recall that Martin Luther King spoke to that difficulty in a 1957 speech whose words ring relevant 61 years later. “All types of conniving methods are still being used to prevent Negroes from becoming registered voters,” lamented King.

As he saw it, neither political party was blameless. He castigated Democrats for capitulating to the rabid racists of their Southern wing — the so-called “Dixiecrats” — and blasted Republicans for caving in to “rightwing reactionary Northerners.”

“Both political parties,” he said, “have betrayed the cause of justice.”

While there are no more Dixiecrats and the rightwing reactionaries to whom the GOP kowtows are more likely to be found in the South and Midwest now than in the North, it is noteworthy that King’s central point remains valid. Neither party covers itself with glory where African Americans are concerned. To the contrary, African-American issues — police reform, job discrimination, mass incarceration — routinely go unaddressed by both.

And here, someone will demand to know how it is, if both parties share blame, black voters remain overwhelmingly loyal to one of them, reliably casting about 90 percent of their presidential ballots for Democrats. But it isn’t that hard to understand.

Imagine you have two suitors. One of them tends to ignore you, often seems ashamed to be seen with you, but occasionally brings you flowers. The other beats you.

If you must date one, is it any wonder you’d choose the former?

So Republicans, who pioneered the ...........

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raised in cape cod area, in high school i drove down to Fla with mom for easter vacation.
we encountered upon crossing the "mason dixon line" the rest stops, the food drive-ins, the gas stations, that
all had signs reading "whites only...white men only...white women only...coloreds here".

i was a kid from a part of the country i didnt know was liberal or not or green grey sienna
ocre pastel or acrylic; i was a kid out playing in gods country.

seeing that shit, those signs those "colored" words on walls, changed this child, me.
many years later, my son, bless his heart...started school in a s'uthen college town and a small neighborhood school
walking distance from home and his bestest friend lived in the ghetto two blocks away from our magnolia yard tree.
my young-in grew up comprehending the difference in how he and his BF lived.

im told that ghetto is still there in full, two blocks from our magnolia tree neighborhood.
nothing changed. its like a reservation, they dont want to be fucked with by some subdiv fucker.

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100 involved in brawl after MLK Day parade in Las Vegas

About 100 people were involved in a fight that broke out after the Martin Luther King Jr. Day Parade on Monday afternoon in downtown Las Vegas, according to Metro Police.

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You lefties just can't stand the fact that MLK Day was signed into law by Reagan.


Racism is now the Republican Party brand.

Your party is full of Confederate flagwaving simps. Don't be one.

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100 involved in brawl after MLK Day parade in Las Vegas

About 100 people were involved in a fight that broke out after the Martin Luther King Jr. Day Parade on Monday afternoon in downtown Las Vegas, according to Metro Police.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2018/jan/1 ... las-vegas/

The link only gives the what, when, and where of the incident but nothing about who and why.

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You lefties just can't stand the fact that MLK Day was signed into law by Reagan.


I can "stand" it, what Reagan fans should "stand" to know is he fought against it in 1981 and 1982, and implied in 1983 when he was forced to pass it, that it probably shouldn't have happened since, according to him, King's FBI file would show he was really a Communist. They also should know Reagan "stood" against King in the Sixties at the state level.

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The white conservative view of MLK and all of Civil Rights. Always has been since Reconstruction, and is, to this day.

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This is porn for conservative whites. Its what they think of every African American. I shouldn't even be posting it.

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