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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:46 am 
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Putin ordered rump to cancel our military operations in SK and that is what this is about.

Putin is in charge here, so if you want to know what rump will do or say next, just figure out what is good for Putin.

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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Rump just said Un criticized former American presidents and rump agrees with that criticism

America is over, the question is how much violence will there be

The ONLY reason I am not WANTING justice in the streets is grandchildren, because you filthy traitors, THAT is what you deserve.

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The exercises did worry Russia. Everything in that hemisphere worries Russia. It borders on a whole lot of places no one would think it does. Like North Korea, and the United States, for that matter. (Check it out. Google Diomede Islands.)

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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Donald Trump:

Asked Russia to deliver him Hillary's hacked emails.

Praises Vladamir Putin as someone he admires and is a friend.

Refuses to implement veto proof sanctions on Russia for infering in the 2016 elections

Invited Russian spies into the WH and handed over allied intel

Constantly attacks and vilifies the free press, saying the news is fake

Trashed the American media with Putin during a face to face meeting

Attacks America's allies attempting to seperate the west

Asks for Russia to be reinstated in the G

Follows Putins orders and ceases joint military exercises on the Korean Penisula

Shakes hands with a vile despot that murders his own people, for a photo OP. With no actual deal in place.




And yet, there's at least two people on this message board that don't see a problem.

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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The exercises did worry Russia. Everything in that hemisphere worries Russia. It borders on a whole lot of places no one would think it does. Like North Korea, and the United States, for that matter. (Check it out. Google Diomede Islands.)

I am glad it worried them.

I hope to worry that murderer more and more when we remove his puppet.

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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Donald Trump:

Asked Russia to deliver him Hillary's hacked emails.

Praises Vladamir Putin as someone he admires and is a friend.

Refuses to implement veto proof sanctions on Russia for infering in the 2016 elections

Invited Russian spies into the WH and handed over allied intel

Constantly attacks and vilifies the free press, saying the news is fake

Trashed the American media with Putin during a face to face meeting

Attacks America's allies attempting to seperate the west

Asks for Russia to be reinstated in the G

Follows Putins orders and ceases joint military exercises on the Korean Penisula

Shakes hands with a vile despot that murders his own people, for a photo OP. With no actual deal in place.




And yet, there's at least two people on this message board that don't see a problem.


But there was no Collusion...

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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Collusion hell, if these were democrats you would hear TREASON by every commentator, every rightwinger.

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nort ... SKBN1J9022


He gave up everything, everything - worst negotiator in history. What he would tell you is he NEVER intends to do what he says he will do, that he ALWAYS cheats his vendors and lies to them, but in this case the vendor is a madman with nuclear weapons.

I wonder if the "both parties are the same" "I just cant trust her" folks are feeling good today.



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North Korea state media says Trump agreed to lift sanctions against North

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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Has any other member of this forum noticed that a certain member, who loves call fellow members of this forum "Communist", "Commie", and "Socialist" is all of sudden all about a North Korean Communist?

A North Korean Communist who BTW fed one family member to his dogs and had another family member killed in an airport, is now trust worthy and how 45 is great because HE got fucked 8-ways from Sunday by this North Korean Communist?

This same member sings the praises of the great and ever lasting Ronnie God, who once said, "Trust But Verify".

Lets hear for rank HYPORACY!!!

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-sanctions/north-korea-state-media-says-trump-agreed-to-lift-sanctions-against-north-idUSKBN1J9022


He gave up everything, everything - worst negotiator in history. What he would tell you is he NEVER intends to do what he says he will do, that he ALWAYS cheats his vendors and lies to them, but in this case the vendor is a madman with nuclear weapons.

I wonder if the "both parties are the same" "I just cant trust her" folks are feeling good today.





Putin wanted it, Putin Got It!!

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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Here's what Trump said about Kim:
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"I learned he's a very talented man. I also learned that he loves his country very much,"

"Well he is very talented. Anybody who takes over a situation like he did at 26 years of age and is able to run it, and run it tough — I don't say 'he was nice' or I don't say anything about it,"
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Here's what G.W. Bush said about Putin in 2010:
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"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country."
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How is it these two men are so naive and gullible when it comes to sizing up dictators?

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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Here's what Trump said about Kim:


Here's what G.W. Bush said about Putin in 2010:

How is it these two men are so naive and gullible when it comes to sizing up dictators?


I know Cheney deeply disliked Putin for good reason, so this surprises me, guess I forgot. W was capable of saying this though because like rump not very smart.

I see he said this after WH, so Cheney wasnt controlling him.


BTW, own your own home?

Who says? It will be bittersweet, sure I will lose mine along with all of you but so will the deplorables, when Putin takes them

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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Putin wanted it, Putin Got It!!

I guess Trump's rewritten Whatever Lola Wants from Damn Yankees.

Whatever Putin wants
Putin gets
And little man
Putin wants you

Make up your mind
To have
No regrets
Recline yourself
Resign yourself
You're through

I always get what I aim for
And your heart and soul
Is what I came for

Whatever Putin wants
Putin gets
No use to fight
Don't you know you can't win

You're no exception to the rule
I'm Irresistible you fool
Give in
Give in
Give in

Hello Don, it's me!
It's so far
Hold on, that's you!

Uh huh!
Boo bee do!
Ah hah

Peek a boo!
La la la

Whoo hoo!

Ha ha ha ha
Ha ha ha ha ha!

I always get what I aim for
And your heart and soul
Is what I came for

Putin wants
Putin gets
You'll never win

I'm Irresistible you fool
Give in
Give in

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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1985: North Korea signs Nuclear NonProliferation Treaty

1992: North Korea signs historic agreement to halt nuclear program!

1994: North Korea signs historic agreement to halt nuclear program!

1999: North Korea signs historic agreement to end missile tests

2000: North Korea signs historic agreement to reunify Korea! Nobel Peace Prize is awarded

2005: North Korea declares support for "denuclearization" of Korean peninsula

2005: North Korea signs historic agreement to halt nuclear program and "denuclearize"!

2006: North Korea declares support for "denuclearization" of Korean peninsula

2006: North Korea again support for "denuclearization" of Korean peninsula

2007: North Korea signs historic agreement to halt nuclear program!

2007: N&S Korea sign agreement on reunification

2010: North Korea commits to ending Korean War

2010: North Korea announces commitment to "denuclearize"

2010: North Korea again announces commitment to "denuclearize"

2011: North Korea announces plan to halt nuclear and missile tests

2012: North Korea announces halt to nuclear program

2015: North Korea offers to halt nuclear tests

2016: North Korea again announces support for "denuclearization"


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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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I know Cheney deeply disliked Putin for good reason, so this surprises me, guess I forgot. W was capable of saying this though because like rump not very smart.

I see he said this after WH, so Cheney wasnt controlling him.

The article was from 2010 but the quote was from 2001, during his presidency and under Cheney's control.


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BTW, own your own home?

Who says? It will be bittersweet, sure I will lose mine along with all of you but so will the deplorables, when Putin takes them

Yeah, I own it and have a large but manageable mortgage. How will Putin take my house or anyone else's house?

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According to Trump, Canada, one of the 5 eyes, one of America's strongest allies, is a National Security threat. Canada is an enemy.

But Russia, China and NoKo are friends.


And Glen questions people's patriotism.

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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The article was from 2010 but the quote was from 2001, during his presidency and under Cheney's control.



Yeah, I own it and have a large but manageable mortgage. How will Putin take my house or anyone else's house?

Over time as they take control of the institutions, which is their main admitted goal, they will simply take them

Recorders office in your county is the ONLY place other than title insurance that says you own that, I think.

The point is this CAN happen, just like my point about owning dirt. What SENSE does it make to allow any person or corp or business to own dirt/real property or land, all the same thing.

Example, current government expands as in power and Waikiki Beach is sold to the Koch Bros. Then Yellowstone is sold to them. Now they can prevent ANY and ALL human beings from EVER stepping foot on them again, OR they can charge people and their descendants can till the end of time, but NOT if you stop this nonsense.

If you have a democratic socialist government and not a dictatorship, you lease land to families to build homes on, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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According to Trump, Canada, one of the 5 eyes, one of America's strongest allies, is a National Security threat. Canada is an enemy.

But Russia, China and NoKo are friends.


And Glen questions people's patriotism.

His SIXTY MILLION deplorables now think this as well including those on this board

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 Post subject: Re: North Korea meeting
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Over time as they take control of the institutions, which is their main admitted goal, they will simply take them

Recorders office in your county is the ONLY place other than title insurance that says you own that, I think.

The point is this CAN happen, just like my point about owning dirt. What SENSE does it make to allow any person or corp or business to own dirt/real property or land, all the same thing.

Example, current government expands as in power and Waikiki Beach is sold to the Koch Bros. Then Yellowstone is sold to them. Now they can prevent ANY and ALL human beings from EVER stepping foot on them again, OR they can charge people and their descendants can till the end of time, but NOT if you stop this nonsense.

If you have a democratic socialist government and not a dictatorship, you lease land to families to build homes on, etc.

I know you're opposed to anyone or any entity owning land but that's your problem, not mine. Anything is possible but the probability of Putin owning my house or millions of other people's homes is so small it isn't even worth discussing. Yes, the government can do a lot of things to force private land be sold/given to other interests but then that's why the court system is in place to help stop the government from doing that.

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Too soon to tell what if anything will come of this. A guy with nuclear weapons says he wants to begin a conversation to “denuclearize”. I think you have to take the meeting. I also think it would be naive to believe that NK is just going to rollover for us. NK has a reputation for delay and for not living up to their agreements. Nothing exists to say they aren’t still playing that game. The devil will be in the details and there aren’t that many of those at this stage of the game. Initially it appears they have expressed a willingness to talk. So we talk and see if they have any intention of following thru. In the meantime, sanctions stay in place with the threat of more to come.


Joe, we have a reputation for delay and for not living up to our agreements. :|


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Joe, we have a reputation for delay and for not living up to our agreements. :|


True, true.

And our reputation for that pre-dates theirs by at least a century.

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Joe, we have a reputation for delay and for not living up to our agreements. :|


You make a good point. This is definitely a two way street. But we are where we are today and maybe all the things we have tried in the past have brought us to the point where NK is open to a deal. But then again, maybe this is more of the same. It’s really to soon to tell. But if the other guy calls and indicates he is open to a deal, you should take the call. This may all be bluff but you can’t know until you put it to the test. I wouldn’t ease any sanctions until I had concrete evidence. We have been down that road before and should have learned the lesson.


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You make a good point. This is definitely a two way street. But we are where we are today and maybe all the things we have tried in the past have brought us to the point where NK is open to a deal. But then again, maybe this is more of the same. It’s really to soon to tell. But if the other guy calls and indicates he is open to a deal, you should take the call. This may all be bluff but you can’t know until you put it to the test. I wouldn’t ease any sanctions until I had concrete evidence. We have been down that road before and should have learned the lesson.

Trump has already normalized a man who has killed thousands and enslaved millions. Were this a Dem, you would be screaming "appeasement" and "Neville Chamberlain".

Trump is calling Kim a great leader and saying there's a special place in hell for Justin Trudeau.

Now Trump is saying that the nuclear threat is over. And I guess that's fine with you.

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Trump has already normalized a man who has killed thousands and enslaved millions. Were this a Dem, you would be screaming "appeasement" and "Neville Chamberlain".

Trump is calling Kim a great leader and saying there's a special place in hell for Justin Trudeau.

Now Trump is saying that the nuclear threat is over. And I guess that's fine with you.


I stated in my post precisely what was fine with me. Nothing more. Nothing less.


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