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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:49 am 
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You haven't called me a racist, eh? So, you not only have called me a racist, you fucking yelled that I'm a racist. Which makes you a liar.



So...if you will lie about this...will you lie about glen? Of course you will. Will you lie when you state that Israel stole Palestinian land when it occupied the West Bank 1969? Of course you will.

What won't you lie about? Who TF can say?


I never said you were a racist Ike. I said you hate Palestinians. I am not the one who passed the sins of the Father onto the Son, that was YOU. A 3-Year Palestinian Boy died of burned he received when his parents home was fire bombed. YOU said that maybe if the boy's Father had been throwing fire bombs the boy would not have died.

God you are the single most pathetic individual I've seen on this forum.

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Ike needs to believe he is persecuted.


Lol some jackass on Facebook said Tlaib and Omar were banned because there were worries they would cause riots, propaganda scraped right off the top of Fox News. :lol: :roll:

People will make up anything.

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Back to the topic:

I still oppose their entry into Israel/the West Bank being blocked. But you know what I also oppose? Linda Sarsour or other people calling Jake Tapper (who has been consistently anti-Trump) evil epithets for raising the issue.

https://www.jta.org/2019/08/16/politics ... -west-bank

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Miftah, a Palestinian NGO chaired by Ashrawi, organized the trip. Its website says its mission is to “promote the principles of democracy and good governance within various components of Palestinian society” and to “engage local and international public opinion and official circles on the Palestinian cause.”

The group, like many Palestinian civil society organizations, supports the movement to boycott Israel. But it has also praised Palestinian suicide bombers and published an age-old anti-Semitic stereotype, for which it later apologized. Netanyahu described Miftah as “an avid supporter of BDS, and among whose members are those who have expressed support for terrorism against Israel.”

A report on the group’s site from 2006 about Palestinian women in the second intifada praises Wafa Idris, who killed one Israeli civilian and injured 150 people in a 2002 suicide bombing in downtown Jerusalem. The report says Idris, the first female suicide bomber of the second intifada, “marked the beginning of a string of Palestinian women dedicated to sacrificing their lives for the cause.”

Years later, in 2013, Miftah staffer Nawaf Al Zaru posted an article on its site criticizing President Barack Obama for hosting a Passover seder at the White House. In the article, Al Zaru repeated a false accusation that Jews kill non-Jewish children and use their blood in religious rituals.

“Does Obama in fact know the relationship, for example, between ‘Passover’ and ‘Christian blood’..?! Or ‘Passover’ and ‘Jewish blood rituals?!’” Al Zaru wrote. “Much of the chatter and gossip about historical Jewish blood rituals in Europe are real and not fake as they claim; the Jews used the blood of Christians in the Jewish Passover.”

At first the group defended the article by saying the blogger who first criticized it had “wrongly accused MIFTAH and Dr. Ashrawi of promoting Jewish blood libel during Passover through its publication of an Arabic-language article that briefly addressed the subject.” But the group deleted the article from its site, apologized and said it disciplined Al Zaru.

“The said staffer has been reprimanded and all our staff has been informed as to the disgusting and repulsive phenomena of blood libel or accusation, including its use against Jews,” the apology said.

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But here's the deal - Miftah says they have repudiated support for the blood libel, but they continue to essentially repeat it by accusing Israel of harvesting the human organs of children.

John-Paul Pagano, via Twitter
Miftah, the Palestinian NGO that co-sponsored @RashidaTlaib and @IlhanMN's trip to Israel, ran an article by Assad's media advisor Bouthaina Shaaban claiming Israel "steals Ukrainian children" to harvest their organs.
http://www.miftah.org/PrinterF.cfm?DocId=21595
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Miftah recently ran an article claiming that Israel's humanitarian programs in Ukraine and Haiti were actually covers to harvest the organs of the children of those countries.
The person they cited for this article was Clara Rising, a U.S. anti-Semitic white nationalist.

Sorry, it's inexcusable that they continue to run this crap. No, I am not saying this justifies .IL's actions.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:11 am 
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Back to the topic:

I still oppose their entry into Israel/the West Bank being blocked. But you know what I also oppose? Linda Sarsour or other people calling Jake Tapper (who has been consistently anti-Trump) evil epithets for raising the issue.

https://www.jta.org/2019/08/16/politics ... -west-bank

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Miftah, a Palestinian NGO chaired by Ashrawi, organized the trip. Its website says its mission is to “promote the principles of democracy and good governance within various components of Palestinian society” and to “engage local and international public opinion and official circles on the Palestinian cause.”

The group, like many Palestinian civil society organizations, supports the movement to boycott Israel. But it has also praised Palestinian suicide bombers and published an age-old anti-Semitic stereotype, for which it later apologized. Netanyahu described Miftah as “an avid supporter of BDS, and among whose members are those who have expressed support for terrorism against Israel.”

A report on the group’s site from 2006 about Palestinian women in the second intifada praises Wafa Idris, who killed one Israeli civilian and injured 150 people in a 2002 suicide bombing in downtown Jerusalem. The report says Idris, the first female suicide bomber of the second intifada, “marked the beginning of a string of Palestinian women dedicated to sacrificing their lives for the cause.”

Years later, in 2013, Miftah staffer Nawaf Al Zaru posted an article on its site criticizing President Barack Obama for hosting a Passover seder at the White House. In the article, Al Zaru repeated a false accusation that Jews kill non-Jewish children and use their blood in religious rituals.

“Does Obama in fact know the relationship, for example, between ‘Passover’ and ‘Christian blood’..?! Or ‘Passover’ and ‘Jewish blood rituals?!’” Al Zaru wrote. “Much of the chatter and gossip about historical Jewish blood rituals in Europe are real and not fake as they claim; the Jews used the blood of Christians in the Jewish Passover.”

At first the group defended the article by saying the blogger who first criticized it had “wrongly accused MIFTAH and Dr. Ashrawi of promoting Jewish blood libel during Passover through its publication of an Arabic-language article that briefly addressed the subject.” But the group deleted the article from its site, apologized and said it disciplined Al Zaru.

“The said staffer has been reprimanded and all our staff has been informed as to the disgusting and repulsive phenomena of blood libel or accusation, including its use against Jews,” the apology said.

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But here's the deal - Miftah says they have repudiated support for the blood libel, but they continue to essentially repeat it by accusing Israel of harvesting the human organs of children.

John-Paul Pagano, via Twitter
Miftah, the Palestinian NGO that co-sponsored @RashidaTlaib and @IlhanMN's trip to Israel, ran an article by Assad's media advisor Bouthaina Shaaban claiming Israel "steals Ukrainian children" to harvest their organs.
http://www.miftah.org/PrinterF.cfm?DocId=21595
5:10 PM - 19 Aug 2019

Miftah recently ran an article claiming that Israel's humanitarian programs in Ukraine and Haiti were actually covers to harvest the organs of the children of those countries.
The person they cited for this article was Clara Rising, a U.S. anti-Semitic white nationalist.
Sorry, it's inexcusable that they continue to run this crap. No, I am not saying this justifies .IL's actions.


.IL let Gavin McInness/Proud Boy visit in 2017, as well as Viktor Orban. :problem:

F. that government.

This miftah outfit is ridiculous. And Linda Sarsour has no credibility. OT but this is her in 2014

https://mobile.twitter.com/lsarsour/sta ... 3588700160

10 weeks of PAID maternity leave in Saudi Arabia. Yes PAID. And ur worrying about women driving. Puts us to shame. http://saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?me ... 1116224593

:? right, Linda.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:34 am 
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Your retort:



Nobody called them racist.


Ike called them racist. Now the next time he bring this up he can blame you because you quoted him.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:05 pm 
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Good one, hey next time we go to the Corte Madera shopping center along the 101 I will let you know and maybe we can have lunch, now I have to go get a Moscow Mitch shirt

Do you eat meat, is "The Counter" still there? Maybe Cheesecake Factory.

I will pm you when the time comes.


There's some breakfast places here. The Bayside is good and their Chicken Fried Steak is to die for.

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Sarsour is trying to get Jake Tapper fired for mentioning Palestinian incitement in textbooks and now for bringing up the stuff in Miftah.

Ridiculous. We can talk about the failings of CNN, but Tapper has never failed to be one of the hardest on Trump.

Meanwhile, now Tlaib wants people to boycott Bill Maher's show. Why? He said he's not a BDS supporter and called it a "bullshit purity test".

Bill Maher Boycott Urged By Rep. Rashida Tlaib For His HBO Slam On Her Israel Boycott
https://deadline.com/2019/08/bill-maher ... 202670776/

Really? So you're going to stand up for boycotting as a right to freedom of speech (I don't disagree with that point, but ... ) then show you care about freedom of speech by asking people to boycott Maher's show because he doesn't agree with you?

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I never said you were a racist Ike.




BUT YOU'RE NOT RACIST....EXCEPT WHEN YOU ARE.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:25 pm 
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OK Ike, I did write, I do own it and YOU.....ARE.....A.....RACIST.

God that feels so damn good.

Yes, Ike is a RACIST....Do You Hear Me Ike.....YOU. ARE. A. RACIST.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:26 pm 
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Why are you a racist Ike.

You hate Palestinians.

Just like your asshole bff BeBe. YOU HATE PALESTINIANS.

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OK Ike, I did write, I do own it and YOU.....ARE.....A.....RACIST.

God that feels so damn good.

Yes, Ike is a RACIST....Do You Hear Me Ike.....YOU. ARE. A. RACIST.


YOU.....ARE.....AN.....ANTI-SEMITE. YOU HATE JEWS.

God that feels so damn good.

But never mind this. So you're a liar and you wont admit it until you get caught at it. So much for integrity. And now tell us again how you didn't lie about glen. Fucking liar.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:45 pm 
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Kinda blew the wind out of your sails right Ike.

You call me an Anti-Semite.

I call you a Racist.

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Rep. Ilhan Omar throws support behind LGBTQ Palestinian group - NBC News

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Following Palestinian police threats against a local LGBTQ group, Rep. Ilhan Omar threw her support behind the group by sharing their tweet with five ways to support Palestinian queers.

“LGBTQ rights are human rights, and we should condemn any effort to infringe upon them,” Omar said. “But we should also condemn any effort to equate this with the occupation or use this as a distraction.”

Her tweet linked to a Twitter thread by alQaws, the Palestinian LGBTQ group that was the subject of the threats.

Omar, a Minnesota Democrat, was responding to a report that the Palestinian police in the West Bank, which is occupied by Israel but whose police are controlled by the Palestinian Authority, issued a statement ordering alQaws to halt its planned LGBTQ event programming in Nablus, a town in the northern West Bank. AlQaws held an event in Nablus this month and planned another before the police intervened, the group said.

“The police claimed it goes against ‘traditional Palestinian values’ accusing us as ‘foreign agents,'" alQaws wrote on Facebook. "The statement went further, calling on citizens to complain about any ‘suspicious’ activities and for the persecution of alQaws staff and activists."


Good.

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This is huge. Good for Ms. Omar.

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45 said on Tuesday that he was unmoved by Rep. Rashida Tlaib’s tearful account of visiting her Palestinian family in Jerusalem as a child, delivered at a press conference where she and Rep. Ilhan Omar discussed their aborted trip to Israel and the West Bank.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/0 ... /23797889/.

Sorry, I don’t buy Rep. Tlaib’s tears,” 45 tweeted. “I have watched her violence, craziness and, most importantly, WORDS, for far too long. Now tears? She hates Israel and all Jewish people. She is an anti-Semite. She and her 3 friends are the new face of the Democrat Party. Live with it!”

This is Bigots and Racists do. They dehumanize the people they hate. They objectify their hate.

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I hope Omar will condemn this stuff on the Gaza Strip.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_p ... Gaza_Strip

Mahmoud Ishitwi was executed in February of 2016 for "homosexual activity" by its Hamas rulers.

Two others were executed for the crime in 2014 of, quote, "collaboration with Israel" (what does that mean exactly? You dig into some of these kangaroo courts, and it means they may have met with Israeli people, sold some property like a boat to an Israeli, or dated Israelis, or other things they call "collaboration".)

I'm glad she supported that LGTBQ group in the West Bank. At least the PA allows them to exist.

Hamas pretty much executes gay people, and doesn't even allow such groups to exist, let alone denying them permits to march.

And this is not a "distraction" from anything else, it's not "pink washing" or other bullshit, because it is its own fact.

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Ike called them racist.


Indeed, he did. At the end of the day, we're all "racists" waiting to get back at whites, to people like that. :problem:

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This is huge. Good for Ms. Omar.


Sure...good for her. Perhaps it might even keep a few innocent people from being stoned to death and dragged around Gaza City behind motorcycles by Omar's pious Hamas brethren who only want peace.

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Sure...good for her. Perhaps it might even keep a few innocent people from being stoned to death and dragged around Gaza City behind motorcycles by Omar's pious Hamas brethren who only want peace.


For next time, read the article first, before commenting.

This is a response to a specific incident with the cops banning events by a Palestinian LGBTQ rights group in Nablus, not “Gaza City.”

Do you know any Palestinian LGBTQs?

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Ever known ANY Palestinians? I mean, besides the ones they show you in The Algeminer. :problem:

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45 said on Tuesday that he was unmoved by Rep. Rashida Tlaib’s tearful account of visiting her Palestinian family in Jerusalem as a child, delivered at a press conference where she and Rep. Ilhan Omar discussed their aborted trip to Israel and the West Bank.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/0 ... /23797889/.

Sorry, I don’t buy Rep. Tlaib’s tears,” 45 tweeted. “I have watched her violence, craziness and, most importantly, WORDS, for far too long. Now tears? She hates Israel and all Jewish people. She is an anti-Semite. She and her 3 friends are the new face of the Democrat Party. Live with it!”


This is Bigots and Racists do. They dehumanize the people they hate. They objectify their hate.


Donald Trump is a dirty wn. Bibi aspires to be one.

As for Donald Trump and the Trump cults aim to make The Squad the face of “the Democrat Party,” this is just classic scapegoating/Emmanuel Goldstein’ing. Beats Steve Scalise, Steve King, Donald Trump, David Duke, Mike Pompei, Betsy DeVos, Moscow Mitch, and the rest of those stupid Christian Zionist nazis.

Well I guess DD is just an old school Nazi. :problem:

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David Duke hates Israel and Zionism.

BTW, he tweeted out in support of Ilhan Omar.

David Duke praises Rep. Ilhan Omar
https://www.apnews.com/a97b8b2d48c163c5965c2574ccbbe3d3

It was a very strange bedfellows situation. I suspect he's not fond of Somali Muslims, either.

As you know, Carmen, while a lot of the right subscribes to Christian Zionism, there's still plenty of old-school anti-Zionism in some camps which is yeah basically just anti-Semitism, rooted in supercessionism.

Some groups out there oppose a Jewish state because Jews still have to "pay" for deicide of Jesus, and should still be cursed to wander the world. Plus, if they have a state, it invalidates their belief that the Old Covenant Yhvh had with the Jews is now null and void. Jews need to convert or go away, or especially convert when Jesus comes back and brings the apocalypse.

Then there's Neturei Karta. I love when people say, see look ... religious Jews are anti-Zionist. They don't seem to get a) they are a fringe sect and b) they don't seem to look at many of their other teachings on gays, or women, which are hardly progressive. Essentially, their view is the Jewish state cannot exist until the earthly Messiah arrives to rule over it, so Israel is illegitimate.

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David Duke hates Israel and Zionism.

BTW, he tweeted out in support of Ilhan Omar.

David Duke praises Rep. Ilhan Omar
https://www.apnews.com/a97b8b2d48c163c5965c2574ccbbe3d3

It was a very strange bedfellows situation. I suspect he's not fond of Somali Muslims, either.

As you know, Carmen, while a lot of the right subscribes to Christian Zionism, there's still plenty of old-school anti-Zionism in some camps which is yeah basically just anti-Semitism, rooted in supercessionism.


Yes he is anti-Zionist. Donald Trump is David Duke's great white hope, though.

These stupid ethnonationalists like Gavin McInnes, otoh, admire their distorted fantasy of Israel as one of their model "ethnostates" :problem:

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Some groups out there oppose a Jewish state because Jews still have to "pay" for deicide of Jesus, and should still be cursed to wander the world. Plus, if they have a state, it invalidates their belief that the Old Covenant Yhvh had with the Jews is now null and void. Jews need to convert or go away, or especially convert when Jesus comes back and brings the apocalypse.

Then there's Neturei Karta. I love when people say, see look ... religious Jews are anti-Zionist. They don't seem to get a) they are a fringe sect and b) they don't seem to look at many of their other teachings on gays, or women, which are hardly progressive. Essentially, their view is the Jewish state cannot exist until the earthly Messiah arrives to rule over it, so Israel is illegitimate.


Yeah I know.

When people try and dangle Neturei Karta in front of me like tokens, my response is hey, Jews for Farrakhan also exists, what's your point. :problem:

It's the equivalent of glenfs trotting out Nikki Haley, similar, ignorant boneheaded mentality.

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These stupid ethnonationalists like Gavin McInnes, otoh, admire their distorted fantasy of Israel as one of their model "ethnostates" :problem:


Yeah, I find that amusing. They may see it as a paradigm for "white nationalism" but they really don't get that Jews are not, per se, a "race" and many are not "white". An ethnic group, perhaps, but as I've said, ethnic groups (despite what people think) are not based on phenotype but on language and culture. Jews are Semites with a Semitic Hebrew language and love of Semitic foods and music. "Semite" is not a "race" whatever Adolf and his morons might have thought.

I think this might freak Gavin MacInnes out a bit.

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Then we've got the Sephardim. So-called "Arab/Oriental Jews". The thing is, they lived in Spain till 1500. They've only been "Oriental" for a few centuries.

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It's weird, all these old 19th century B & W photos of them, showing them dressed like pashas. :D

Now, the funny thing, as I tell people, is although the Ashkenazi do somewhat discriminate against both groups, I've really found a lot of the recent Russian Jews, like Avigdor Lieberman, to be more "WN"/"racist" and the Sephardi also seem to be more anti-Arab than the Ashkenazi, maybe because of history. Most of the early Ashkenazi leaders of Israel, like David Ben-Gurion, were socialists. They don't seem to be so much into socialism.

There's even Asiatic Chinese Kaifeng Jews. That's a fascinating story.

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But my point being, Israel, even without its 20% Palestinian Arab population, is not exactly a model for racial homogeneity, Mr. McInnes ... it's NOT the "white ethnostate" you're looking for.

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Yeah, I find that amusing. They may see it as a paradigm for "white nationalism" but they really don't get that Jews are not, per se, a "race" and many are not "white". An ethnic group, perhaps, but as I've said, ethnic groups (despite what people think) are not based on phenotype but on language and culture. Jews are Semites with a Semitic Hebrew language and love of Semitic foods and music. "Semite" is not a "race" whatever Adolf and his morons might have thought.

I think this might freak Gavin MacInnes out a bit.

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Then we've got the Sephardim. So-called "Arab/Oriental Jews". The thing is, they lived in Spain till 1500. They've only been "Oriental" for a few centuries.

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It's weird, all these old 19th century B & W photos of them, showing them dressed like pashas. :D

Now, the funny thing, as I tell people, is although the Ashkenazi do somewhat discriminate against both groups, I've really found a lot of the recent Russian Jews, like Avigdor Lieberman, to be more "WN"/"racist" and the Sephardi also seem to be more anti-Arab than the Ashkenazi, maybe because of history. Most of the early Ashkenazi leaders of Israel, like David Ben-Gurion, were socialists. They don't seem to be so much into socialism.

There's even Asiatic Chinese Kaifeng Jews. That's a fascinating story.

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But my point being, Israel, even without its 20% Palestinian Arab population, is not exactly a model for racial homogeneity, Mr. McInnes ... it's NOT the "white ethnostate" you're looking for.


Well, they admire the discrimination-against-nonwhites part, as well.

They are Pat Buchanan pluralists.

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I've never said this about glen accurately pointing out your racism before, and I defy you to post a link to any post where I have.

With this race baiting comment outta carmen, I feel I owe the guy [glen] an apology.


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