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I assumed this is right in her wheelhouse :rw)
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Marianne Williamson on New Day with Christi Paul - January 4, 2020

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from a week ago pretty decent sized crowd
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Marianne says she will continue her campaign with an all volunteer staff. She fired all her paid campaign staff.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/0 ... ace-093188" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wish her love, light, and blessings. She will need them.

https://ballotpedia.org/Marianne_Willia ... aign,_2020" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nationally, she's polling at 0.3%, which is below John Delaney's 0.8%. Now I know. You're asking yourself "Who the fuck is John Delaney?" :rw) and you see the exact problem.

So, the gurus at 538 will say national polls are meaningless, so thus we turn to the first primary states.

Bad news: she's off the graph for Iowa, and at 0.7% in New Hampshire.

P.S. RCP has her average net unfavorable rating at 14%. Of course, you will quickly note that most people have no view of her as either favorable or unfavorable as the largest respondent pool is "who?"
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ProfessorX » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:18 am wrote:Marianne says she will continue her campaign with an all volunteer staff. She fired all her paid campaign staff.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/0 ... ace-093188" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wish her love, light, and blessings. She will need them.

https://ballotpedia.org/Marianne_Willia ... aign,_2020" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nationally, she's polling at 0.3%, which is below John Delaney's 0.8%. Now I know. You're asking yourself "Who the fuck is John Delaney?" :rw) and you see the exact problem.

So, the gurus at 538 will say national polls are meaningless, so thus we turn to the first primary states.

Bad news: she's off the graph for Iowa, and at 0.7% in New Hampshire.

P.S. RCP has her average net unfavorable rating at 14%. Of course, you will quickly note that most people have no view of her as either favorable or unfavorable as the largest respondent pool is "who?"
shes none of that arbitrary stuff that solves none of our problems or holds any real meaning. she has solid meaningful policy though and that's what I like.

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Speaking of arbitrary stuff,

Lincoln Chafee will be running for POTUS as a Libertarian.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/06/politics ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah. That was my basic reaction. Seems totally arbitrary and pointless. I'd be raging about how he could tip the election running third party but I doubt he will.

He did SO well on his metric system platform in the Dem primary in 2016.

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Mayor from Iowa

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its like Lenny says

Gentle as a rose can conquer anyone

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ProfessorX » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:02 pm wrote:Speaking of arbitrary stuff,

Lincoln Chafee will be running for POTUS as a Libertarian.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/06/politics ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah. That was my basic reaction. Seems totally arbitrary and pointless. I'd be raging about how he could tip the election running third party but I doubt he will.

He did SO well on his metric system platform in the Dem primary in 2016.

Carry on.
Gives me somebody to vote for if Bernie or Warren get the nod.

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Doremus Jessup » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:32 pm wrote:
Gives me somebody to vote for if Bernie or Warren get the nod.
You planning on throwing away your vote if you can’t get your way, then?

Why not just write in the Koch brothers and be done with it.

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Doremus Jessup » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:32 pm wrote: Gives me somebody to vote for if Bernie or Warren get the nod.
Good for you DJ. You might get Lincoln to 0.0002% of the vote. :D

Decent fella. I think he needs a more compelling political message than "no scandals so far" though. :rw)

I believe in the metric system. Let somebody else put him in charge of converting our country over to it.

There are worse Libertarians. He doesn't seem to be a full-bore Ayn Rand nut job. That's good, I think.
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Motor, I'm glad you've fallen in love for the primaries. It's cool. I'm done saying bad stuff about Marianne. Why bother. I'm fascinated you're not a Bernie guy. I would've thought.

... let's talk again in a few months about the GE when Wayne Messam sweeps all the primaries. I kid, I kid.

I like you, so I hope you're not too heartbroken.

Some things she says make sense; never disagreed; she can keep saying them even if she's not our president.
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I saw here someone basically saying if either Bernie or Liz are the candidate they will vote rump, because voting 3rd party IS THE SAME thing.

FUCKERS

You might as well vote for rump, although technically I guess it isnt exactly the same.

It is FUCKING insane to do ANYTHING that risks this FASCIST ADMIRING WISHED HE COULD BE ONE WANNABE DICTATOR reelected.
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Now now Lib, please don't find fault with the rationality of DJ's position.

The two good things about Lincoln Chafee:
a) no one gives a shit about him so he doesn't pose much threat
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b) as a Libertarian he could ALSO take some votes from Trump

That's it. I'm out.

Oh and he likes the metric system.
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ProfessorX » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:59 am wrote:Now now Lib, please don't find fault with the rationality of DJ's position.

The two good things about Lincoln Chafee:
a) no one gives a shit about him so he doesn't pose much threat
and
b) as a Libertarian he could ALSO take some votes from Trump

That's it. I'm out.

Oh and he likes the metric system.
Have to vote blue or you are not part of the solution..we know that.

Even if you are a never trumper, they are voting blue.
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Democrat Marianne Williamson exits 2020 presidential race, saying 'love will prevail'

Williamson won admirers if not voters with a spirituality-focused campaign that promoted a politics of love and of conscience. She advocated a Department of Peace and embraced an economic justice agenda to repair damage done by so-called trickle-down economics.

In a Facebook statement, Williamson said she was suspending her campaign, because she would not be able to get enough votes to “elevate our conversation any more than it is now.”

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Sorry Motor.
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Love will prevail?
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Nope

Lincoln Chafee files to run for president as a Libertarian

Former Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee, who briefly sought the 2016 Democratic nomination for president, on Sunday filed to run for the White House under the banner of the Libertarian Party, according to CNN.

Chafee filed paperwork over the weekend with the Federal Election Commission for the Wyoming-based campaign, with a website linked to the filing touting the slogans “Lincoln Leads with TRUTH” and “Thirty Years, Zero Scandals.”

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ap215 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:57 am wrote: “Thirty Years, Zero Scandals.”
Yep, that'll send 'em running to the polls. "I haven't been caught doing anything bad for 30 years!" And his pledge to switch us over to the metric system. Plus, now, that he's a Libertarian instead of a Democrat, liberty something something freedom.

I can see him rocketing into the political stratosphere. :rw)
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NYT - In a break with convention, the editorial board has chosen to endorse two separate Democratic candidates for president.

American voters must choose between three sharply divergent visions of the future.

The incumbent president, Donald Trump, is clear about where he is guiding the Republican Party — white nativism at home and America First unilateralism abroad, brazen corruption, escalating culture wars, a judiciary stacked with ideologues and the veneration of a mythological past where the hierarchy in American society was defined and unchallenged.

On the Democratic side, an essential debate is underway between two visions that may define the future of the party and perhaps the nation. Some in the party view President Trump as an aberration and believe that a return to a more sensible America is possible. Then there are those who believe that President Trump was the product of political and economic systems so rotten that they must be replaced.

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So, NYT endorsed BOTH Liz Warren and Amy Klobuchar? "Pick a chick"? Interesting. BTW, I like both of them, but ... well, I know who my fave gal is.

On the guy side, OK look, Bernie seems to have a problem. He has surrogates he can't control and keeps apologizing for them.

Sanders apologizes to Biden for supporter's op-ed
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... ters-op-ed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) apologized to former Vice President Joe Biden (D) Sunday night after an op-ed by a Sanders campaign surrogate published in The Guardian accused Biden of corruption.

The Vermont senator told CBS News that he regretted the message published by Sanders surrogate Zephyr Teachout, who does not hold an official role with the campaign but has endorsed and introduced the senator at his rallies.

"It is absolutely not my view that Joe is corrupt in any way. And I'm sorry that that op-ed appeared," Sanders told the news channel.

His statement follows a Sanders campaign press release that circulated the op-ed to supporters and members of the media, with the heading of the press release reading "Joe Biden has a big corruption problem."

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Bernie seems to have to keep apologizing for his campaign surrogates. So this is what I tell the Bros ... if he can't control his campaign, how will he run an administration? I like Zephyr, it's not wrong to discuss where a candidate raises money from and how, but accusing him of "corruption"? I'm surprised she didn't throw Hunter in there too. BTW, this IS an exact example of low blow crap you're basically handing to Trump and his people to make hay out of in the GE.

I like Liz not just because of ideology (although she doesn't call herself a democratic socialist, and I don't call myself that, either) but look other than some recent kertuffles, she doesn't usually focus on negative attacks on other candidates (either Bernie or Biden), and keeps her message positive. And yes, she seems more pragmatic than him (see 2016 endorsement), and I like that. She doesn't have surrogates that she has to keep apologizing for.

And OK. Her academic background? Another plus. I.do.not.give.a.crap.in.my.hat over all this "Pocohontas"/native heritage nonsense, it's a nothing burger.
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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged ‘Russian asset’ smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages

Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sued former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Wednesday for allegedly defaming her by suggesting the Hawaii congresswoman is a “Russian asset.”

“Clinton’s false assertions were made in a deliberate attempt to derail Tulsi’s campaign,” said the lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.

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You can't derail a train that's already gone off the tracks. :twisted:

Sorry, that joke pretty much wrote itself. :mrgreen:
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ProfessorX » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:12 am wrote:You can't derail a train that's already gone off the tracks. :twisted:

Sorry, that joke pretty much wrote itself. :mrgreen:
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Libertas » Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:27 pm wrote:Love will prevail?

I think so its stronger than hate

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