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gounion wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:19 am It's the difference between shoplifting and grand theft. I mean, there's nothing about this man that ISN'T a lie.

But you'll defend him, won't you?
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Translation: "Yes I will!"
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gounion wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:19 am It's the difference between shoplifting and grand theft. I mean, there's nothing about this man that ISN'T a lie.

But you'll defend him, won't you?
I am not defending him. I've said we should have the same standards for all. You on the other hand hold Republicans to one standard and democrats to no standards
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:27 am I am not defending him. I've said we should have the same standards for all. You on the other hand hold Republicans to one standard and democrats to no standards
No, you have no standards for Republicans. You should just say yes, this guy should go. But let's be clear: Your side won't do shit. You'll just give him a standing ovation and put him on committees.

Like you're putting MTG on Oversight Committee.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 6:44 am Did Santos claim to have won international awards, finish near the top of his class, earn 3 degrees, have a full ride scholarship, turned down an appointment to Annapolis.

Whataboutery? How about hypocrobatery
Because this thread is not about Biden or Blumenthal.

Christ, you are an idiot.

Make one, ONE, comment about Santos.

Then go start your own thread about Biden or Blumenthal.

Until then go the fuck away.
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Hey, Glen…

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... edentials/

Biden lied. He should not have. Wow, you should win a Pulitzer. This is not about who lied and who didn’t.

Where is Santos’ apology? Where are the comments and responses from the Republican Party?

Where are the responses from YOU about Santos?

You want to play the hypocrisy game? We could be here all fucking year. Your false God was a liar. Bush1, Bush2 and Trump were/are liars. The problem is that some lies are much more egregious than others. Santos’ entire life story is a lie.

So fucking comment on that for once.

Oh, and regarding hypocrisy the main difference lies in things like YOUR party claiming to be the party of family values and moral righteousness then showing by their actions that they are not.

Why the hell do I bother? You are intellectually incurious. You don’t care to learn anything about political economy. Btw, I do believe that you didn’t vote for Trump but that is negated by your support for a party that supports Trump. THAT is hypocrisy.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:02 am So how is Joe Biden lying about his education different.
Wait I know because when a Democrat lies it is different than when a republican lies.
None should be in office is the opinion of those who have one standard and who aren't hypocrites

Hypocrisy requires an equivalence.

This guy’s entire life and back story is made up. You’re a bucket of dumb false equivalencies.

You can’t enter any thread about Republicans without defending them and attempting to point fingers elsewhere. But then, you’re the guy who votes for seditionists and traitors.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 6:46 am See my previous post and answer why is it OK for Biden to lie about his academic record.
Imo all three should not be in office.
Primarily because Biden’s lies, while unacceptable, were not the entire story of his life.

Santos’s lies ARE the entire story of his life.

And again while I hate politicians making explanations and rationales for their lies if they apologize that makes it better. It doesn’t make it a lot better but it does fall under the category of apologizing. Santos has apologized for nothing. The Republican Party has not taken him to task.

So, no, it isn’t OK for Biden to lie. It isn’t OK for anyone to lie. But since we are humans and subject to flaw this will happen and continue to happen.

The difference lies here:

Making a gaffe or lying about something are not the same. Intent comes into play. A gaffe is a mistake. At the same time the timing of the lie is important as is the subject. So, we know that humans make mistakes and that they lie. Why, on God’s green earth, would we expect politicians to not commit gaffes or lies? We shouldn’t but being convinced through mythological indoctrination that this is the greatest country ever on record we elevate politicians to a level they should never occupy. Beyond that certain changes in political party policy making combined with accepting a certain segment of the populace as necessary for success has resulted in the Republican Party making claims of moral superiority including tacit grasping of being deemed God’s Party. This is not merely hypocritical as shown by the actions of various Republican politicians/candidates it is also dangerous.

So, the bottom line is this politicians shouldn’t lie but they do. Shame on them. Politicians should not commit gaffes but they do. Oh, well, they are human. Politicians should not completely fabricate who they are. On occasion some do. Santos is a pure unalloyed example of that. So I suggest that you contact your congressperson and request that they vote to either not seat him or expel him. What he did AS A FIRST TIME CANDIDATE, is completely unacceptable.
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Moscow many times? No shit?


Vid at link


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👀 Congressman-elect George Santos: “I’ve been to Moscow many times during my career..”


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Santos is 34 years old and has been running for office since 2019; what exactly brought him to visit Moscow “many times” in his 20s? So many questions remain unanswered.

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Drak wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:45 pm Moscow many times? No shit?


Vid at link


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👀 Congressman-elect George Santos: “I’ve been to Moscow many times during my career..”


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@RpsAgainstTrump
Santos is 34 years old and has been running for office since 2019; what exactly brought him to visit Moscow “many times” in his 20s? So many questions remain unanswered.

https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/sta ... 2535996419
According to Glenn, it’s bad if it’s a liberal who visited Moscow. He’s always going on about Bernie Sander’s visits to Moscow. But I’m sure that it’s fine how much Santos visited.
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gounion wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:19 am It's the difference between shoplifting and grand theft. I mean, there's nothing about this man that ISN'T a lie.

But you'll defend him, won't you?
No unlike your hypocrisy I believe he along with Biden and Blumenthal should not be in office.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:18 pm No unlike your hypocrisy I believe he along with Biden and Blumenthal should not be in office.
Again, there’s a difference. You’ve got a guy doing things that are felonies, and you pretend it’s the same as the other two. It’s not.
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gounion wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:48 pm Again, there’s a difference. You’ve got a guy doing things that are felonies, and you pretend it’s the same as the other two. It’s not.
Is what Santos did a felony? Is it even against the law?
Lying about Vietnam service jaywalking
Lying about your academic record jaywalking
Santos Lying a felony.

The irony is you see no hypocrisy in your double standard.
Imo what Blumenthal did is way worse. Men fought and died in Vietnam he lied about his service.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:05 pm Is what Santos did a felony? Is it even against the law?
Lying about Vietnam service jaywalking
Lying about your academic record jaywalking
Santos Lying a felony.

The irony is you see no hypocrisy in your double standard.
Imo what Blumenthal did is way worse. Men fought and died in Vietnam he lied about his service.
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NEW YORK (AP) — U.S. Rep.-elect George Santos of New York was under investigation by Long Island prosecutors on Wednesday, after revelations surfaced that the now-embattled Republican lied about his heritage, education and professional pedigree as he campaigned for office.

Despite intensifying doubt about his fitness to hold federal office, Santos has shown no signs of stepping aside — even as he publicly admitted to a long list of lies.

Nassau County District Attorney Anne T. Donnelly, a Republican, said the fabrications and inconsistencies were “nothing short of stunning.”

“The residents of Nassau County and other parts of the third district must have an honest and accountable representative in Congress,” she said. “If a crime was committed in this county, we will prosecute it.”

Santos’ campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment Wednesday.

He is scheduled to be sworn in next Tuesday, when the U.S. House reconvenes. If he assumes office, he could face investigations by the House Committee on Ethics and the Justice Department.

The Republican has admitted to lying about having Jewish ancestry, a Wall Street pedigree and a college degree, but he has yet to address other lingering questions — including the source of what appears to be a quickly amassed fortune despite recent financial problems, including evictions and owing thousands in back rent. Fellow Long Island Republican, Rep.-elect Nick Lalota, said he was troubled by the revelations.

“I believe a full investigation by the House Ethics Committee and, if necessary, law enforcement, is required,” Lalota said Tuesday.

The New York attorney general’s office has already said it’s looking into issues that have come to light.

A spokesperson for the Nassau County DA’s office, Brendan Brosh, said Wednesday: “We are looking into the matter.” The scope of the investigation was not immediately clear.

Other Republicans castigated Santos but stopped short of asking him to step aside.

“Congressman-Elect George Santos has broken the public trust by making serious misstatements regarding his background, experience and education, among other issues,” said Joseph G. Cairo, chair of the Nassau County Republican Committee, which is within the 3rd Congressional District.
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So you defend senators lying about serving in a war where Americans fought and died.
Only in the leftwing world is that jaywalking
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gounion wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:48 pm Again, there’s a difference. You’ve got a guy doing things that are felonies, and you pretend it’s the same as the other two. It’s not.
All he’s doing is repeating the latest GOP talking point comparing Santos to Biden, which is a ridiculous false equivalence. Because that’s all he does, You can see the op all over the place. Glenn just parrots them.

Instead of taking accountability the GOP attempts to weaponize something they can’t defend and make it into an op against Dems. It’s part of their play book.

The fact is, the entire Republican party is made up of liars, and the leader of their party tells nothing but lies. And they worship him and want him to be their king.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:25 pm So you defend senators lying about serving in a war where Americans fought and died.
Only in the leftwing world is that jaywalking
Oh fuck off. There are people on YOUR side that did the same, but it’s okay if you guys do it.

But then, when the biggest liar in the world is the leader of the GOP, so I guess everything goes, right?
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gounion wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:26 pm Oh fuck off. There are people on YOUR side that did the same, but it’s okay if you guys do it.

But then, when the biggest liar in the world is the leader of the GOP, so I guess everything goes, right?
And here I thought you guys were opposed to whataboutery
Another tell is when you know you have lost you lose your temper swear and go with what about Trump
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:34 pm And here I thought you guys were opposed to whataboutery
This thread is about George Santos. You're the one who came in here and attempted to make it about Biden. Man you're a fool.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:34 pm And here I thought you guys were opposed to whataboutery
Another tell is when you know you have lost you lose your temper swear and go with what about Trump
There’s nothing the GOP can do that you won’t defend. If this guy was a murderer, you wouldn’t care. You just want that vote in the Congress.
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Santos now under investigation by the EDNY


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Drak wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:43 pm Santos now under investigation by the EDNY


CNN Video at link

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1608274512315035649
That’s going to piss Glenn off.
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gounion wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:45 pm That’s going to piss Glenn off.
No unlike liberals I have no problem with Republicans being investigated.
Unlike liberals I do not claim them all innocent before any evidence has been released.
Unlike liberals I do not believe all Republicans have fresh air and sunshine emitting from their backsides.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:50 pm No unlike liberals I have no problem with Republicans being investigated.
Unlike liberals I do not claim them all innocent before any evidence has been released.
Unlike liberals I do not believe all Republicans have fresh air and sunshine emitting from their backsides.
Sure you do. That's why you defended Donald Trump for the last 6 years saying he should be left alone. That's why you deny J6 happened. That's why you most often ignore threads about GOP corruption and crime or try to turn them into threads about Dems.

Yah, sure Jan.
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gounion wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:43 pm There’s nothing the GOP can do that you won’t defend. If this guy was a murderer, you wouldn’t care. You just want that vote in the Congress.
Remember after J6 the GOP told him what he saw didn't happen. Then he immediately believed them.
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