Finally? NYT says the traitor is about to be charged, criminal charges.

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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:06 pm Again, you always come to Trump's defense. Even after you praise the investigation. But that was all bullshit, and we both know it.

What is Trump's defense? Well, he's perfect, he's never done anything wrong, and it's just people out to get this poor victim.

Let's remember, he's already said he's never met her and she's horse-faced. None of this ever happened.

Same as his defense for everything. He's perfectly innocent.

So go ahead and defend this bullshit. Because he's your guy.
No you just aren't that bright. Taking a look at Trump's defense is not an endorsement of that defense or defending Trump.
Having a rational discussion about merits or lack thereof of that defense would require a certain degree of open-mindedness. Something else you lack.

Of course if the lackey who delivered the payment broke the law then the person making the payment also broke the law.

Had you read the link, especially with the ability you claim to have in regards to being able to understand legal documents. You would have seen that there were statutes mentioned.

But, no matter you simply do not have the mental ability to discuss anything that requires you to look beyond your limited beliefs.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:16 pm No you just aren't that bright. Taking a look at Trump's defense is not an endorsement of that defense or defending Trump.
Having a rational discussion about merits or lack thereof of that defense would require a certain degree of open-mindedness. Something else you lack.
You weren't "looking at his defense" - you were endorsing a heavily partisan opinion piece that was saying that Trump was innocent and would be found not guilty upon appeal.
Of course if the lackey who delivered the payment broke the law then the person making the payment also broke the law.
Are you saying Cohen is innocent?
Had you read the link, especially with the ability you claim to have in regards to being able to understand legal documents. You would have seen that there were statutes mentioned.
I did read the link - something you should do more often.

Yes, there were statutes mentioned. But the problem is, we don't know what the charges are going to be, and under what statues. Because, again, the entire Grand Jury has been secret.
But, no matter you simply do not have the mental ability to discuss anything that requires you to look beyond your limited beliefs.
All you want to do is defend Trump, while pretending you're not. It's just stupid.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:28 pm You weren't "looking at his defense" - you were endorsing a heavily partisan opinion piece that was saying that Trump was innocent and would be found not guilty upon appeal.

Are you saying Cohen is innocent?

I did read the link - something you should do more often.

Yes, there were statutes mentioned. But the problem is, we don't know what the charges are going to be, and under what statues. Because, again, the entire Grand Jury has been secret.

All you want to do is defend Trump, while pretending you're not. It's just stupid.
No I am saying Cohen is guilty. Again if you had any insight that would have been obvious.
Not defending Trump only within the limited spectrums if your mind.
It appears that the law professor is saying that a guilty verdict is very likely. That Trump's defense won't be about finding hin innocent. But, will be about his defense team setting up the appeal. Which apparently according ti the law professor he is likely to win.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:32 pm No I am saying Cohen is guilty. Again if you had any insight that would have been obvious.
Your statement was contradictory, since you're saying at the same time that Trump is innocent.
Not defending Trump only within the limited spectrums if your mind.
It appears that the law professor is saying that a guilty verdict is very likely. That Trump's defense won't be about finding hin innocent. But, will be about his defense team setting up the appeal. Which apparently according ti the law professor he is likely to win.
You're saying Trump will be found innocent upon appeal, BECAUSE the New York investigation is a witch hunt.

AFTER you said "I see the New York prosecutor as doing a very good and thoughtful job. While conducting legitimate investigations into legitimate crimes and wrong doings."

Your law professor might as well be on Trump's payroll. But you'll believe anything saying Trump is innocent. You'll change your mind as soon as you hear from them.

You'll do the same thing when the Special Prosecutor indicts Trump, too.
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Hey, Glenn, here's another stupid, idiotic defense of Trump you can champion. It's just like Alimony! https://www.rawstory.com/stephen-miller-trump-arrest/

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Cohen WENT TO JAIL FOR AND BECAUSE OF DONALD TRUMP.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:40 pm Your statement was contradictory, since you're saying at the same time that Trump is innocent.

You're saying Trump will be found innocent upon appeal, BECAUSE the New York investigation is a witch hunt.

AFTER you said "I see the New York prosecutor as doing a very good and thoughtful job. While conducting legitimate investigations into legitimate crimes and wrong doings."

Your law professor might as well be on Trump's payroll. But you'll believe anything saying Trump is innocent. You'll change your mind as soon as you hear from them.

You'll do the same thing when the Special Prosecutor indicts Trump, too.

No I was looking at and referring to the conclusions of a George Washington University professor.
I am not saying Trump is innocent just looking at things from all sides.
Incase you didn't know good lawyers get guilty men off everyday including our mutual friend.
I guess your opinion if the professor just shows that liberals are anti-education and anti-intellectual
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Drak wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:21 pm Cohen WENT TO JAIL FOR AND BECAUSE OF DONALD TRUMP.
Exactly why I said Trump is probably guilty.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:44 pm Hey, Glenn, here's another stupid, idiotic defense of Trump you can champion. It's just like Alimony! https://www.rawstory.com/stephen-miller-trump-arrest/

:lol: :lol: :lol:
So how would you suggest the Trump legal team go about his defense. Since you are so better qualified than law school professors
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:34 pm No I was looking at and referring to the conclusions of a George Washington University professor.
I am not saying Trump is innocent just looking at things from all sides.
Incase you didn't know good lawyers get guilty men off everyday including our mutual friend.
I guess your opinion if the professor just shows that liberals are anti-education and anti-intellectual
A professor who is a Trumper. How funny that you accept a university professor when they say what YOU want.

Yes, you ARE. You posted the piece, using they old ‘Argument from Authority’ to say that Trump would be found innocent upon appeal.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:36 pm So how would you suggest the Trump legal team go about his defense. Since you are so better qualified than law school professors
I’d suggest that he plead guilty, since he is.
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praying I have to come here this week and admit I was wrong


https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/stat ... 22284?s=20

BREAKING: a Trump criminal indictment by a grand jury is expected late today or Wednesday, according to three people involved in the deliberations
I will be wrong ONLY if Fani is allowed to indict and prosecute, etc. (wrong thread)

http://radiofreeliberal.com/viewtopic.p ... 770#p54770
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:36 pm So how would you suggest the Trump legal team go about his defense. Since you are so better qualified than law school professors
He should hire Bill Clintons lawyer.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:15 pm He should hire Bill Clintons lawyer.
What, exactly, was Clinton indicted for?

Once again you guys try to normalize Trump, as if he’s like all the other Presidents.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:36 pm So how would you suggest the Trump legal team go about his defense. Since you are so better qualified than law school professors
That “law professor “ is a Trump lawyer and a Trumper. Sit down.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:18 pm What, exactly, was Clinton indicted for?

Once again you guys try to normalize Trump, as if he’s like all the other Presidents.
It’s what they do. Notice how they completely ignore his batshitcrazy statements? They normalize and defend him, constantly.
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Drak wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:26 pm It’s what they do. Notice how they completely ignore his batshitcrazy statements? They normalize and defend him, constantly.
I guess every few days Joe gets a wild hair up his ass and decides “I’m going to say something utterly ridiculous and stupid!”
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:01 pm I’d suggest that he plead guilty, since he is.
You would make one heck of a defense attorney.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:50 pm You would make one heck of a defense attorney.
Yes. If someone is guilty, they should plead guilty.

You sure make a great Republican. Deny everything. Everyone else is a liar. Even if you're caught red-handed.

If you're guilty, OWN UP TO IT.

Some family values you're teaching your grandson.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:50 pm You would make one heck of a defense attorney.
So tell me Glenn, what would YOU do?

Do you realize there is a time when you do plead guilty if you ARE guilty?

But here's the man you're defending - tonight on Truth Social:
"I did NOTHING wrong in the 'Horseface' case. I see she showed up in New York today trying to drum up some publicity for herself," Trump wrote.

"I haven't seen or spoken to her since I took a picture with her on a golf course, in full golf gear including a hat, close to 18 years ago. She knows nothing about me other than her conman lawyer, [Michael] Avanatti, and convicted liar and felon, jailbird Michael Cohen, may have schemed up. Never had an affair with her, just another false acquisition by a SleazeBag. Witch Hunt!"
So do you believe him? Is he telling the truth? Let's just remember that most of the elected Congressmen and Senators - including all of yours - support this man.

I wonder if this is the reason they won't let him testify before the Grand Jury?
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:59 pm So tell me Glenn, what would YOU do?

Do you realize there is a time when you do plead guilty if you ARE guilty?

But here's the man you're defending - tonight on Truth Social:



So do you believe him? Is he telling the truth? Let's just remember that most of the elected Congressmen and Senators - including all of yours - support this man.

I wonder if this is the reason they won't let him testify before the Grand Jury?
If I were defending him I would do like HRC did when she defended that child rapist. Figure out a defence plan that would get my client out of trouble.

I personally believe that the manner in which Trump paid off the hooked was illegal. I also believe that if a democrat had done the same thing New York would not be charging them and you would be outraged that Republicans keep bringing it up.

Surely after 4 years of investigation and millions of dollars spent they can come up with a more serious crime than this.

Another conspiracy theory of mine is they aren't looking into any of his business crimes which involved democratic party donors or unions.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:07 am If I were defending him I would do like HRC did when she defended that child rapist. Figure out a defence plan that would get my client out of trouble.

I personally believe that the manner in which Trump paid off the hooked was illegal. I also believe that if a democrat had done the same thing New York would not be charging them and you would be outraged that Republicans keep bringing it up.

Surely after 4 years of investigation and millions of dollars spent they can come up with a more serious crime than this.

Another conspiracy theory of mine is they aren't looking into any of his business crimes which involved democratic party donors or unions.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A few days ago this was a great investigation you were fully supportive of! You can't even pretend not to be a Trumper.

And still trying to normalize Trump, as always.
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gounion wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:18 am :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A few days ago this was a great investigation you were fully supportive of! You can't even pretend not to be a Trumper.

And still trying to normalize Trump, as always.
He is but that doesn't change the fact he is a partisan Democrat.
Nobody here is trying to normalize Trump. That is just something you say when you are losing the argument and have nothing.
How is saying Trump is probably guilty defending Trump
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:57 am He is but that doesn't change the fact he is a partisan Democrat.
Nobody here is trying to normalize Trump. That is just something you say when you are losing the argument and have nothing.
Hiw is saying that Trump is probably guilty defending Trump
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:57 am He is but that doesn't change the fact he is a partisan Democrat.
Nobody here is trying to normalize Trump. That is just something you say when you are losing the argument and have nothing.
How is saying Trump is probably guilty defending Trump
You’re ALWAYS trying to normalize Trump. Why else would you bring up Clinton? You keep pretending he’s like every other President. Hell, he makes Nixon look like a Boy Scout. You don’t want anything to happen to him. But if he isn’t held accountable, then every President from now on is a King, accountable to no one. We no longer will have a nation of laws.

I point out your actions as you do them. You’re the one that wants to pretend he’s like everyone else.

Look, Glenn, every time when push comes to shove you will ALWAYS defend Trump. You don’t want anything to happen to him.
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