Wanna-be assassin didn't get to carry it out.

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https://www.fox13now.com/news/crime/fbi ... ing-arrest

He was killed in a raid.

Glenn will come and tell us that there's nothing showing that he was listening to Donald Trump - but he also threatened to kill NY prosecutor Alvin Bragg.

I think it's only the beginning.
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He was a proud member of the gravy seals.
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This is not possible without the overt or covert support of the GOP by all who support them.
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gounion wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:58 pm https://www.fox13now.com/news/crime/fbi ... ing-arrest

He was killed in a raid.

Glenn will come and tell us that there's nothing showing that he was listening to Donald Trump - but he also threatened to kill NY prosecutor Alvin Bragg.

I think it's only the beginning.
No I have the same opinion of that guy as I do of the guy who drove over 2000 miles to assassinate Justice Kavanaugh and his entire family.

It is a shame that you and the other liberals here don't. As you defend one while condemning the other.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:48 pm No I have the same opinion of that guy as I do of the guy who drove over 2000 miles to assassinate Justice Kavanaugh and his entire family.

It is a shame that you and the other liberals here don't. As you defend one while condemning the other.


I will explain it again because you are too fucking stupid, but I'll try to go slow so even an inbred REDNECK like you can understand! THE MAN HAD AN EMPTY GUN AND CALLED THE COPS ON HIMSELF!!! IF he had wanted to kill KKKavanugh HE WOULD BE DEAD and the court would be better off! If you don't like what I say FUCK YORSELF! Nobody is forcing you to come here!
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Not clear yet why there was a killing instead of an arrest and trial.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:48 pm No I have the same opinion of that guy as I do of the guy who drove over 2000 miles to assassinate Justice Kavanaugh and his entire family.

It is a shame that you and the other liberals here don't. As you defend one while condemning the other.
You mean the one that turned himself in?
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gounion wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:48 am You mean the one that turned himself in?
The one who drove 2000 miles and surrendered when he saw police were guarding Kavanaugh 's home.

But you go ahead and defend him as you morn the fact he wasn't successful.

BTW which sides rhetoric is it that lead him to drive over 2000 miles to assassinate Kavanaugh and his family.
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Note the lack of condemnation or concern by the above poster? Just straight into the typical false equivalence as a defense. And total projection. Just as he denies Jan 6 or constantly defends Donald Trump. People like this are totally complicit.

The call for violence against Biden and liberals, the call for civil war to kill liberals, is skyrocketing. A few weeks back Trump posted Obama’s address over social media and a terrorist showed up. Just the other day MTG had a town hall where one of her supporters called for executing liberals as traitors, and Marge, who has called for murdering liberals before, laughed and said the meeting was ending "on the right note."
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:03 am The one who drove 2000 miles and surrendered when he saw police were guarding Kavanaugh 's home.

But you go ahead and defend him as you morn the fact he wasn't successful.

BTW which sides rhetoric is it that lead him to drive over 2000 miles to assassinate Kavanaugh and his family.
He wasn’t successful because he didn’t have the stones to actually do anything.

Unlike this guy the other day, who obviously wouldn’t be taken alive and tried to shoot his way out. Or the guy who bashed Paul Pelosi’s head in. I note you still haven’t given one iota of sympathy for his family, his children and grandchildren, who were probably traumatized by the attack. Unlike people having a candlelight vigil.
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Drak wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:15 am Note the lack of condemnation or concern by the above poster? Just straight into the typical false equivalence as a defense. And total projection. Just as he denies Jan 6 or constantly defends Donald Trump. People like this are totally complicit.

The call for violence against Biden and liberals, the call for civil war to kill liberals, is skyrocketing. A few weeks back Trump posted Obama’s address over social media and a terrorist showed up. Just the other day MTG had a town hall where one of her supporters called for executing liberals as traitors, and Marge, who has called for murdering liberals before, laughed and said the meeting was ending "on the right note."
What part of I have the same opinion of this guy as I do of the guy who drove over 2000 miles to assassinate Kavanagh and his family did you miss.
Check on that file you keep on ke and you will see I condemned that guy multiple times.
While GoU defended him him and continues to defend him to this day.
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gounion wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:25 am He wasn’t successful because he didn’t have the stones to actually do anything.

Unlike this guy the other day, who obviously wouldn’t be taken alive and tried to shoot his way out. Or the guy who bashed Paul Pelosi’s head in. I note you still haven’t given one iota of sympathy for his family, his children and grandchildren, who were probably traumatized by the attack. Unlike people having a candlelight vigil.
You keep defending the attempted assassination on Kavanaugh and your sadness at its failure is obvious
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:35 am What part of I have the same opinion of this guy as I do of the guy who drove over 2000 miles to assassinate Kavanagh and his family did you miss.
Check on that file you keep on ke and you will see I condemned that guy multiple times.
While GoU defended him him and continues to defend him to this day.
There’s the guy who didn’t have what it took to actually hurt someone, who turned himself in, and there’s the guy that broke into a house and bashed an old man’s head it.

What do you care about his children and grandchildren who were traumatized by that? Who have watched their grandfather who hasn’t recovered yet?

Yet all you can do is scream “KAV KAV KAV!’
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:35 am What part of I have the same opinion of this guy as I do of the guy who drove over 2000 miles to assassinate Kavanagh and his family did you miss.
Check on that file you keep on ke and you will see I condemned that guy multiple times.
While GoU defended him him and continues to defend him to this day.
I guess you missed the part about you constantly trolling out the false equivalencies every time this happens. Paul Pelosi’s head was bashed in and you didn’t say much. You trotted out the bs Kav comparison then, too.
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Both of these guys are dangerous. Whose more or less dangerous than the other? Dunno. Don’t care. They both need to be dealt with legally. The rhetoric that drives them to contemplate such acts IMO needs to stop. Public officials / public people do have some responsibility to make sure what they say doesn’t drive people or encourage people to do such things. It isn’t acceptable from the right or left. And yeah, that includes Trump. But it also includes members of Congress.
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It’s not a left and right issue currently. It’s predominantly coming from the right and MAGA. It’s also members of congress on the right. I see no left wing members of congress, or left wing presidential candidates, calling for violence and civil war. Just more made up both sides.
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Drak wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:05 am It’s not a left and right issue currently. It’s predominantly coming from the right and MAGA. It’s also members of congress on the right. I see no left wing members of congress, or left wing presidential candidates, calling for violence and civil war. Just more made up both sides.
Well then you won’t object to a global condemnation of such rhetoric.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:16 am Well then you won’t object to a global condemnation of such rhetoric.
Of course not. I’ve constantly called it out on these boards and if there’s a Dem politician doing it, I’ll condemn them. But the fact is, I’ve seen no members of the Democratic Party calling for violence and civil war. Or presidential candidates. But on the right we have the leader of rather Republican party, MTG, Matt Gaetz, Gosar, Boebert, Cruz, Rick Scott, etc., all MAGA candidates, who do. In fact, most members of the Republican congress support Donald Trump and want him back in power. And they have no problem with his violent rhetoric.

I don’t ignore these things when it comes to the likes of MTG etc. like other members of this board do. And I don’t create false equivalences about it.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:16 am Well then you won’t object to a global condemnation of such rhetoric.
Do you understand there’s a difference of degree? Or do you think calling someone out in a restaurant is the same as Donald Trump demanding the overthrow of our government?
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A war begins with a single bullet.

We ignore the drift toward mass violence precipitated by social media and historical/dialectical reaction to civil rights, gay rights, and BLM at our extreme peril.

Sure a lot of shit going on right now that no one seems to care about stopping before it stops civilization.
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Yeah, this is the guy who is going to assassinate Biden and Bragg.

“He said Robertson was about 5 feet, 4 inches tall and weighed 300 pounds. He "could barely get around with a cane" and had difficulty standing up on his own.”


“ Travis Clark, close friend of Robertson, told Fox News Digital that the slain woodworker was the soul caretaker for a disabled adult son who also lived in the home and is blind.”


https://www.foxnews.com/us/video-expose ... ning-biden
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:49 pm Yeah, this is the guy who is going to assassinate Biden and Bragg.

“He said Robertson was about 5 feet, 4 inches tall and weighed 300 pounds. He "could barely get around with a cane" and had difficulty standing up on his own.”


“ Travis Clark, close friend of Robertson, told Fox News Digital that the slain woodworker was the soul caretaker for a disabled adult son who also lived in the home and is blind.”


https://www.foxnews.com/us/video-expose ... ning-biden
How fit do you have to be to fire a gun?

Wow, you guys will do anything to defend the indefensible.
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gounion wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:32 pm How fit do you have to be to fire a gun?

Wow, you guys will do anything to defend the indefensible.
The guy was all bluster. He wasn’t a threat. Difficulties standing on his own is an indication he’s not up to the task. Doesn’t appear he could get to where Biden or Bragg might be. Need to be there to fire the gun. He likely couldn’t get there.
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ZoWie wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:15 pm A war begins with a single bullet.

We ignore the drift toward mass violence precipitated by social media and historical/dialectical reaction to civil rights, gay rights, and BLM at our extreme peril.

Sure a lot of shit going on right now that no one seems to care about stopping before it stops civilization.
So you are saying we can’t get along because we can’t agree on civil rights, gay rights and BLM? I’m thinking there’s more to it that that. Maybe those are your hot button issues. But there is more going on than that.

I don’t think the issues themselves are the problem. The problem is that we have lost sight of the fact we are one nation. We all have different opinions but we all occupy the same ground. We don’t need to be at war with each other.

Lincoln said “ a house divided cannot stand”. It’s actually biblical. The point is that we are a house divided. We are at war with ourselves. So we can either learn to get along or we can or will simply tear this nation apart. Nobody wins. Everybody loses. Is that the equality we want?
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1. No, I'm saying that we're having trouble getting along because no one talks or looks for common ground. It didn't start with the traditional disagreement over equality that seems to be the one major flaw in our culture, but that escalated it. The main change came when everyone got on the Internet, which seems to encourage identity groups but does not encourage understanding between them. The result is that the less verbal among us tend to swagger, threaten people, pose with guns, and make outrageous statements behind the cloak of semi-anonymity.

2. We are definitely a house divided, and no one seems especially capable of doing anything about it. Usually it's been the job of the president to encourage consensus, but right now the office is so partisan that it can't do that.
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