ProfX wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:35 am
No, it wasn't fun and games. I imagine a six year old being taken from their parents and not told if and when they will ever see them again would not be much fun. It would be terrifying. But then, that was the point.
Trump separated children from parents. It was deliberate. Not from distant relatives, cousins, great uncles, or strangers. Family separation was instituted because they felt it would be a deterrent. The issue of unaccompanied minors and locating family in the U.S. was a different problem. But not why they instituted family separation. You only have to read the memos: the cruelty was the point.
I'm not ignoring it. Heck, I've been the victim of it.
I have friends who lost close family members to gun violence. For me, it isn't just an abstract issue.
I'm just asking what DAs have a policy of releasing repeat and habitual offenders, since you say this is such a problem. I DO agree with you a lot of crime is carried out by habitual offenders. DAs know that, too. But I don't know any who have a policy of letting thoe folks go.
Was it the point?? And how would you know? As far as encouraging thousands upon thousands upon thousands to leave their homes and head into this country with no plan on what to do with the or how to assimilate them or how to pay for all this, well we will just have to disagree with whether that’s smart policy and better than what what we had before. I will point out that there are tons of thousands of unaccompanied minor being turned over to adults in this country. Like the other migrants, we have no plan for them, no way to track them or check their welfare. So you don’t know if there were victims of abuse before during or after their trip across the border. Didn’t then and still don’t now. So again, we can disagree or whether that’s smart policy. Seems to me a policy which separates children from their parents and turns them over to adults we know shit about and then losing track of them isn’t anymore humane than Biden’s predecessor. You can pretend it’s better if you choose. Up to you.
As far as crime, we all are victims of it. If not directly but indirectly. When you don’t feel safe walking the neighborhood, you are a victim. When stores close due to shoplifting, you are a victim, when you have to get a clerk to unlock the toothpaste or laundry detergent, you are a victim. When someone with multiple arrest is released back into society due to no cash bail, you are a victim. When what were formerly felonies are now procedures as misdemeanors if prosecuted at all, you and we are all victims. When police departments, law enforcement are demonized as a group, defunded and not supported by the very city and state leaders that manage them, you and we are all victims.
These things are and have been reported repeatedly. All anyone has to do is turn on the TV and look at what is going on in LA, Portland, SF, Chicago, NY, Atlanta and others. You can ignore those things and tell yourself it isn’t happening or isn’t that bad because it fits your ideology. But then you are only fooling yourself. You can ignore the tens of thousands of migrants streaming across the border, many of which are unaccompanied and tell yourself, the border is closed simply because Biden and Mayorkus tell you it’s closed. But again, you are just fooling you. The voter isn’t fooled.
Will all this make a difference next Nov? Who knows. If the current polls hold, we will be running with another set of really shitty choices. If Biden and Trump are the best we can do I guess we deserve what we get.