Yet another reason to not vote for democrats

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https://mynorthwest.com/3942486/

Seattle student fails quiz for answering only males has penis and only females can get pregnant.
The article goes on to speak about how saying you are straight is offensive.
Little wonder we are falling behind in education as the left uses public schools as indoctrination centers.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:16 am https://mynorthwest.com/3942486/

Seattle student fails quiz for answering only males has penis and only females can get pregnant.
The article goes on to speak about how saying you are straight is offensive.
Little wonder we are falling behind in education as the left uses public schools as indoctrination centers.
Yes, we should just study the Bible. You are the ones saying it’s offensive if you aren’t straight.

Reasons for not voting Republican: Women’s rights to live, the right to be able to get contraception, which Republicans are against.
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gounion wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:25 am Yes, we should just study the Bible. You are the ones saying it’s offensive if you aren’t straight.

Reasons for not voting Republican: Women’s rights to live, the right to be able to get contraception, which Republicans are against.
See this is the difference between being objective and being a low information partisan hack. Low information because regardless of the information you will come uo with the same conclusion.

I have no problem admitting or saying that republicans have gone to far right on an issue.

While you being low information will always defend the issue no matter how ridiculous. You would never say that the democratic party which is your religion took something to far to the left.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:19 am See this is the difference between being objective and being a low information partisan hack. Low information because regardless of the information you will come uo with the same conclusion.

I have no problem admitting or saying that republicans have gone to far right on an issue.

While you being low information will always defend the issue no matter how ridiculous. You would never say that the democratic party which is your religion took something to far to the left.
You keep making these bullshit threads, Glenn. I can tell you right now, your issue won’t be winning any votes for you when the Republican Supreme Court tells a woman she can’t have an abortion when her health is in danger. This is today’s GOP. Just noticed that the US Supreme Court is looking to ban abortion further in a new case.

But you keep bring up these crap things because you think they matter. They don’t.
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gounion wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:27 am You keep making these bullshit threads, Glenn. I can tell you right now, your issue won’t be winning any votes for you when the Republican Supreme Court tells a woman she can’t have an abortion when her health is in danger. This is today’s GOP. Just noticed that the US Supreme Court is looking to ban abortion further in a new case.

But you keep bring up these crap things because you think they matter. They don’t.
Your deflection aside what is your personal opinion of what the school district in Washington is teaching?
Mine is they should be teaching tolerance of those different than you. But, not indoctrination of their personal beliefs. What I read reminds me of how in third grade we had to take turns leading the class in prayer. Along with having to read a passage from the Bible.
Which was illegal at the time but the teacher still made us do it.
Sidebar as I look back that lady was a complete supremacist who discriminating against those if us with Appalachian backgrounds. May she rest in hell
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:33 am Your deflection aside what is your personal opinion of what the school district in Washington is teaching?
Mine is they should be teaching tolerance of those different than you. But, not indoctrination of their personal beliefs. What I read reminds me of how in third grade we had to take turns leading the class in prayer. Along with having to read a passage from the Bible.
Which was illegal at the time but the teacher still made us do it.
Sidebar as I look back that lady was a complete supremacist who discriminating against those if us with Appalachian backgrounds. May she rest in hell
Then move to Washington so you can vote against it.

Otherwise, it’s just you going for stuff you see on right-wing sites that don’t matter in the big picture of what’s at stake next year. You don’t care how crazy the GOP is, YOU. WILL. VOTE. FOR. THEM.

That’s what you’re telling us in these stupid threads you keep starting.
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gounion wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:36 am Then move to Washington so you can vote against it.

Otherwise, it’s just you going for stuff you see on right-wing sites that don’t matter in the big picture of what’s at stake next year. You don’t care how crazy the GOP is, YOU. WILL. VOTE. FOR. THEM.

That’s what you’re telling us in these stupid threads you keep starting.

Once again you don't have the guts to answer a simple question.
Maybe you missed it.
What is your personal opinion of what they are doing in Washington State.
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Behold the troll. It is an odd creature which feeds off the angst of others, like in that old Star Trek episode where Jack the Ripper is reincarnated aboard the Enterprise. Trolls used to hide under bridges and demand excessive tolls for crossing. That was a more innocent age. Now, they live among us.

Feeding them makes them more active, which then has the same effect on useful communication as does the hostile measure that the military still calls jamming.
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ZoWie wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:51 am Behold the troll. It is an odd creature which feeds off the angst of others, like in that old Star Trek episode where Jack the Ripper is reincarnated aboard the Enterprise. Trolls used to hide under bridges and demand excessive tolls for crossing. That was a more innocent age. Now, they live among us.

Feeding them makes them more active, which then has the same effect on useful communication as does the hostile measure that the military still calls jamming.
This thread is not trolling in a classic sense. If anything it shows why parents need to run the school district and that gou has no balls
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:22 pm This thread is not trolling in a classic sense. If anything it shows why parents need to run the school district and that gou has no balls
Finally, you admit to trolling. You said "This thread is not trolling in a classic sense." So what type of trolling is it?
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Number6 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:06 pm Finally, you admit to trolling. You said "This thread is not trolling in a classic sense." So what type of trolling is it?
Not an admission of anything. This thread is no more a trolling thread than any thread on here.
It is a thread where I point out where the left wants to take our educational system.
Now if it were a story about what a great job liberal school teachers were doing I would have passed it by.
So how soon before you comment on threads here by liberals which are trolling threads.
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What if the left does not want to take our educational system? Right now the "left" is so disorganized that it it wouldn't be able to agree on whether to take Advil or Tylenol for the headaches that so many people in it get from the incessant infighting.

OK, I do concede that a lot of the stuff on here is more like failure of perception than trolling.
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ZoWie wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:31 pm What if the left does not want to take our educational system? Right now the "left" is so disorganized that it it wouldn't be able to agree on whether to take Advil or Tylenol for the headaches that so many people in it get from the incessant infighting.

OK, I do concede that a lot of the stuff on here is more like failure of perception than trolling.
I also believe if the far right got a hold of it things would end up just as bad.
Shame we don't teach kids the 3Rs and let them decide on their political path once they are grown
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The only part I agree on is that elementary schools should spend more time on the 3Rs, and secondary school is when you encourage independent thought, even though it causes some parents to go into hissy fits.
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ZoWie wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:42 pm The only part I agree on is that elementary schools should spend more time on the 3Rs, and secondary school is when you encourage independent thought, even though it causes some parents to go into hissy fits.
As long as public education is in the hands of the government and parents are pretty much out of the loop, you will get what we have now or worse. We spend way more time on social engineering that on reading, writing, math, science, and history.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:22 pm This thread is not trolling in a classic sense. If anything it shows why parents need to run the school district and that gou has no balls
Parents? So there's no place for education professionals?

I mean, if parents ran education then our children would be learning flat earth. I mean, if you want parents running things, why do we require teachers have degrees?
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:40 pm I also believe if the far right got a hold of it things would end up just as bad.
Then why is this a reason not to vote for Democrats, since things would be just as bad if we voted for Republicans?

I mean, we see what Republicans do to gay kids when they are in charge. Hell, if Republicans are completely in charge, they outlaw homosexual behavior and people completely.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:36 pm As long as public education is in the hands of the government and parents are pretty much out of the loop, you will get what we have now or worse. We spend way more time on social engineering that on reading, writing, math, science, and history.
While it makes a good sound bite to decry government control of schools claiming parents are out of the loop the reality is parents have a big say in their schools through their school boards. The parents have control of the school board through their votes. They have the right to attend and speak at open school board meetings. They have the right to petition the school board if they disagree with their policies or actions. If they disagree with the school board they can also initiate a recall of any or all board members. They have the right to petition for redress the policies state and federal governments impose on school districts.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:56 pm Not an admission of anything. This thread is no more a trolling thread than any thread on here.
It is a thread where I point out where the left wants to take our educational system.
Now if it were a story about what a great job liberal school teachers were doing I would have passed it by.
So how soon before you comment on threads here by liberals which are trolling threads.
Nope, it's a trolling thread and you said as much in your response to Zowie.
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Number6 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:09 pm While it makes a good sound bite to decry government control of schools claiming parents are out of the loop the reality is parents have a big say in their schools through their school boards. The parents have control of the school board through their votes. They have the right to attend and speak at open school board meetings. They have the right to petition the school board if they disagree with their policies or actions. If they disagree with the school board they can also initiate a recall of any or all board members. They have the right to petition for redress the policies state and federal governments impose on school districts.
The ultimate say would be if they could choose the actual school their kids attended. Wouldn’t that be cool?
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JoeMemphis wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:15 pm The ultimate say would be if they could choose the actual school their kids attended. Wouldn’t that be cool?
Anything to destroy the public school system, right?
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gounion wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:26 pm Anything to destroy the public school system, right?
I favor Anything to improve education in this country. Giving parents choice is allowing them the ultimate “say” in the education of their children. So I’m for that.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:39 pm I favor Anything to improve education in this country. Giving parents choice is allowing them the ultimate “say” in the education of their children. So I’m for that.
So you’re saying that no matter what outlandish thing a parent wants, the government must provide an individualized education for each child?
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gounion wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:43 pm So you’re saying that no matter what outlandish thing a parent wants, the government must provide an individualized education for each child?
That’s not what I am saying.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:51 pm That’s not what I am saying.
It sure sounds like it. That’s what your statement said. So what is the government responsible for paying for? If your child wants to be an astronaut, must they provide all the training for it?
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