Glennfs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:28 am
That isn't a very good ad as it does nothing to sway any voters. It does nothing to inspire anyone to get out and vote.
Once it compared the republican party with dictators it became clear it will only appeal to people already voting for Biden.
One more thing in the ad it shows Biden as this energetic and engaged person. When in real time we don't see that very often if at all.
I wonder if displaying Biden the way it does might not actually hurt Biden by reminding people how he isn't energetic and engaging in an abstract manner.
Personally I believe they should show Biden as being thoughtful and pragmatic a person who knows how to get things done.
At least that is how I would package him. Especially with the energetic and engaging theme is so transparent.
Not taking any advice from you - you don’t want us to win.
But hey Trump is saying that he needs to end the sanctions against his lover boy Kim. I’m sure that will get him lots of votes. Plus, the GOP Congress is taking Vlad’s side and refusing the help the Ukraine freedom fighters. More reason for you to vote GOP, right?
gounion wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:34 am
Not taking any advice from you - you don’t want us to win.
But hey Trump is saying that he needs to end the sanctions against his lover boy Kim. I’m sure that will get him lots of votes. Plus, the GOP Congress is taking Vlad’s side and refusing the help the Ukraine freedom fighters. More reason for you to vote GOP, right?
Your response is what happens when a person attempts to engage a liberal in an honest and respectful back and forth.
The liberal goes nuts and can't respond.
ZoWie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:43 am
Losing Ukraine is bad for business. It's already increasing food prices worldwide. The GOP used to care about that.
I agree it's bad for business but wasn't aware that Ukraine was an agricultural country.
It is a major grain exporter, or was. The loss of this product after Russia blocked it is one major reason for the supply side crisis, with covid being another one.
ZoWie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:35 pm
It is a major grain exporter, or was. The loss of this product after Russia blocked it is one major reason for the supply side crisis, with covid being another one.
I looked them up reminds me of North Dakota, winter wheat and sugar beats.
I regret that there won't be any retribution for Putin once this is over.
Like our civil war it seems thar Ukraine can win battle after battle but Putin can just keep sending in more troops until Ukraine can no longer put up a fight.
You really are right on occasion, and this is one of them.
Russia is 11% of the world's land mass, and without help Ukraine does not stand a chance, with major consequences for the price of grain. Actually the supply side fiasco is a consequence of globalization, but that's an underlying cause. Ukraine and covid were the releasing causes.
"We must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation." --Liz Cheney, Republican, 7/21/22
ZoWie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:43 am
Losing Ukraine is bad for business. It's already increasing food prices worldwide. The GOP used to care about that.
Glennfs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:46 am
Your response is what happens when a person attempts to engage a liberal in an honest and respectful back and forth.
The liberal goes nuts and can't respond.
You've never cared about an honest back and forth. You just want to hold us to different rules than you play by. I can point to gotcha threads by you. Those aren't honest back and forths.
JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:30 pm
Everybody cares about rising food prices.
But the GOP cares about Putin and Kim. Gee, I remember when you guys were anti-communist and stood up to thugs and bullies. Not any more. You are all Trumpified - I mean you won't even say that we should support the Ukrainian people.
gounion wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:09 am
But the GOP cares about Putin and Kim. Gee, I remember when you guys were anti-communist and stood up to thugs and bullies. Not any more. You are all Trumpified - I mean you won't even say that we should support the Ukrainian people.
JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:57 am
Sorry. I don’t accept your premise.
I understand that denying reality is what you have to do to be a conservative. Your problem, not mine.
Whatever happened to your side's view of the Domino Theory? Why are you fine with letting Putin overrun Ukraine? Why do you not care about freedom in the world anymore?
gounion wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:15 am
I understand that denying reality is what you have to do to be a conservative. Your problem, not mine.
Whatever happened to your side's view of the Domino Theory? Why are you fine with letting Putin overrun Ukraine? Why do you not care about freedom in the world anymore?
Again, I don’t accept the premise. I don’t speak for the Republican Party but I do believe polling shows that most conservatives favor support of the Ukraine. I know I do. I believe polling shows that most Conservatives in Congress support the Ukraine. And Israel. So all this Putin shit from you is a false flag.
JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:18 am
Again, I don’t accept the premise. I don’t speak for the Republican Party but I do believe polling shows that most conservatives favor support of the Ukraine. I know I do. I believe polling shows that most Conservatives in Congress support the Ukraine. And Israel. So all this Putin shit from you is a false flag.
If they did, they would vote for it. They refuse.
That says it all. Just like you may tell us that conservatives support access to contraception, but almost all Republicans in Congress voted AGAINST it.
Their votes speak for themselves. Your party is fucked up, yet you will vote for them, won't you?
gounion wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:06 pm
If they did, they would vote for it. They refuse.
That says it all. Just like you may tell us that conservatives support access to contraception, but almost all Republicans in Congress voted AGAINST it.
Their votes speak for themselves. Your party is fucked up, yet you will vote for them, won't you?
Well I will leave it to you to cipher or glean what goes on in the minds of other people. You and Dionne.
Again. Not my party.
If my rep is a big Seattle Seahawks fan and I vote for him/her, that doesn’t mean I support the Seahawks. Your analogy.
gounion wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:42 pm
No lies at all. That’s the way it works, and YOU are the one that said you vote your own best interests. Not me.
I said numerous times I vote in the best interest of my family, my friends, my community and my country. All of which you fail to mention. If you have to lie to make your argument, you have no argument. Never do. Never have. Never will.
JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:50 pm
I said numerous times I vote in the best interest of my family, my friends, my community and my country. All of which you fail to mention. If you have to lie to make your argument, you have no argument. Never do. Never have. Never will.
You stuck to “my interests” that until it embarrassed you, then you pissed backwards.
You don’t give a fuck for your friends, you’ll go to their wedding but vote for people that will strip them of their rights, even to be married. You’ve already proved that out.
gounion wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:53 pm
You stuck to “my interests” that until it embarrassed you, then you pissed backwards.
You don’t give a fuck for your friends, you’ll go to their wedding but vote for people that will strip them of their rights, even to be married. You’ve already proved that out.
You don’t get to decide who or what I give a fuck about.
