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and board cons are FULL on board unless they say otherwise NOW.


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Bannon says Trump children’s book author Kash Patel will be CIA Director in a 2nd term, & that they will replace 4,000 govt workers with sycophants: “We’re gonna have a well-trained cadre of people that will hit the beach day 1 .. taking apart the fed bureaucracy brick by brick.”
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ZoWie says that if the Internet were properly run, self-promoting hypocrites like Bannon would be back on the fringes instead of dictating the mainstream to those too awed by the financial possibilities of the new medium to control it. You realize that, before drumpf and some web sites put him in the public view, most of his income came from Seinfeld reruns. He cut himself in when he negotiated the contract that set up its syndication. He was just another TV biz blowhard peripheral.
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ZoWie wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 1:04 pm ZoWie says that if the Internet were properly run, self-promoting hypocrites like Bannon would be back on the fringes instead of dictating the mainstream to those too awed by the financial possibilities of the new medium to control it. You realize that, before drumpf and some web sites put him in the public view, most of his income came from Seinfeld reruns. He cut himself in when he negotiated the contract that set up its syndication. He was just another TV biz blowhard peripheral.
How was such a pig scumbag in a position to be part of that in the first place...sigh
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Libertas wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:31 pm How was such a pig scumbag in a position to be part of that in the first place...sigh
He was just another wannabe movie mogul who came to the business from investment banking, notably Goldman Sachs. He was an exec producer (aka money deal arranger) on a whole string of little right wing movies you never heard of. When he somehow got into a position to negotiate the deal that syndicated Seinfeld, one of the best TV deals in history of the business, he took a cut of all future action.

Politically he's essentially an anarchist, though by buddying up to the right he's been able to get a reputation as a right wing guru. Notably, he attached himself to Breitbart when that took off. That made him an alt-right hero, and then he attached himself to the whole Cambridge Analytica thing, at which point the drumpf campaign owed him a big one, and he got it.

Mostly, he's all talk and no talent, but that can go a long way in his chosen careers in first Da Movieez and then the crap that passes for media on the benighted Internet, which did for the American right what access to radio broadcasting and big PA systems did for a mentally ill second-rate painter called Adolf Hitler.
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ZoWie wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:59 pm He was just another wannabe movie mogul who came to the business from investment banking, notably Goldman Sachs. He was an exec producer (aka money deal arranger) on a whole string of little right wing movies you never heard of. When he somehow got into a position to negotiate the deal that syndicated Seinfeld, one of the best TV deals in history of the business, he took a cut of all future action.

Politically he's essentially an anarchist, though by buddying up to the right he's been able to get a reputation as a right wing guru. Notably, he attached himself to Breitbart when that took off. That made him an alt-right hero, and then he attached himself to the whole Cambridge Analytica thing, at which point the drumpf campaign owed him a big one, and he got it.

Mostly, he's all talk and no talent, but that can go a long way in his chosen careers in first Da Movieez and then the crap that passes for media on the benighted Internet, which did for the American right what access to radio broadcasting and big PA systems did for a mentally ill second-rate painter called Adolf Hitler.
It's worth remembering that Andrew Breitbart was a co-founder of Huffington Post.
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I could also put out there that at one point, Steve Bannon actually helped run a company where Chinese "gold farmers" sold virtual gold and currency for real money to users of MMOs like WoW.

BTW, that's of debatable legality, but for sure violates the ToS (terms of service) for just about every MMO, including WoW.
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Um, I’m confused.

Doesn’t Bannon stand on the Constitution? Didn’t he say that after his trial?

Kick his ass out of the country.
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carmenjonze wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:19 pm It's worth remembering that Andrew Breitbart was a co-founder of Huffington Post.
Yes, he was. He was from around here, went to a hoity-toidy prep school in Brentwood and like a lot of people started out as a newleftie before being seduced by the dark side. There's yet another argument for a four-quadrant model. Honestly, it's much better for explaining how seeming leftists can become fascists. Makes more sense when there's also a Y axis.
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Sounds like Bannon is trying to reestablish his bonafides with the far right wing/trump community and cash more big paydays.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:48 am Sounds like Bannon is trying to reestablish his bonafides with the far right wing/trump community and cash more big paydays.
Your own dimwit rep showed up on Steve Bannon’s show last weekend at KleaglePAC.

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ZoWie wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:31 am Yes, he was. He was from around here, went to a hoity-toidy prep school in Brentwood and like a lot of people started out as a newleftie before being seduced by the dark side. There's yet another argument for a four-quadrant model. Honestly, it's much better for explaining how seeming leftists can become fascists. Makes more sense when there's also a Y axis.
I find political transitions very interesting.

Breitbart was never much of a leftie, honestly, and it seems like he became a solid conservative during and after college. He had an epiphany, he says, during the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas hearings in 1991. One of the things that I find fascinating is it's that same moment David Brock, who runs Media Matters, switched from conservative to liberal. Human beings: same inputs/events, different outputs/transitions. This is why they are so interesting to study. :D

As for Ariana Huffington, same deal, different transition: she was a notable Republican and of course her ex-husband ran for Congress as a staunch Republican. Ariana's first website, BTW, was Resignation.com, where she called for the resignation of Bill Clinton. :D

I'm not sure how much of a liberal/leftie she ever was; when she ran for governor of CA in 2003, it was as an independent. She certainly was a Republican up until 1998 or so.

I don't believe in essentialism. Not gender essentialism, nor political essentialism. By that I mean, there is a certain interesting claim these days that people are born conservative or liberal. It's somehow rooted in our genetics, or neurological wiring. I don't think so. There is so much contrary evidence. I again do find it fascinating that humans can react to the same events (like the Anita Hill/Thomas hearings) and react differently.

Looking over Breitbart's bio, I find he says he didn't really find anything in college interesting until he came across Camille Paglia's work. All I can say is I tried reading her. It is a lot of turgid crap. I too am very interesting in ancient art and iconography, even just on how it expresses gender & sexuality, but come on, Andrew, there are so many better books on that topic. :roll:
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:48 am Sounds like Bannon is trying to reestablish his bonafides with the far right wing/trump community and cash more big paydays.
And to commit treason against the USA. But you're fine with that.
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ProfX wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:08 am As for Ariana Huffington, same deal, different transition: she was a notable Republican and of course her ex-husband ran for Congress as a staunch Republican. Ariana's first website, BTW, was Resignation.com, where she called for the resignation of Bill Clinton. :D
I remember it well. He was the rep where I lived at the time. The rumors swirled about his sexuality even back then. He ended up coming out...and becoming a columnist at -- wait for it -- Huffington Post.

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I'm not sure how much of a liberal/leftie she ever was; when she ran for governor of CA in 2003, it was as an independent. She certainly was a Republican up until 1998 or so.

I don't believe in essentialism. Not gender essentialism, nor political essentialism. By that I mean, there is a certain interesting claim these days that people are born conservative or liberal. It's somehow rooted in our genetics, or neurological wiring. I don't think so. There is so much contrary evidence. I again do find it fascinating that humans can react to the same events (like the Anita Hill/Thomas hearings) and react differently.
All of this stuff is chosen or environmentally influenced, AFAIC. Essentalism is another branch of atheistic/Evangelical/Fundamentalist hardline certitude and wishful thinking, imo.
Looking over Breitbart's bio, I find he says he didn't really find anything in college interesting until he came across Camille Paglia's work. All I can say is I tried reading her. It is a lot of turgid crap. I too am very interesting in ancient art and iconography, even just on how it expresses gender & sexuality, but come on, Andrew, there are so many better books on that topic. :roll:
Paglia is just another TERF. I mean, anyone from the era and interested in those topics was influenced by her, including myself. But she's revealed herself to be just another conservative opportunist, like the rest of the prominent TERFs.

Lol f. her.
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:14 am I remember it well. He was the rep where I lived at the time. The rumors swirled about his sexuality even back then. He ended up coming out...and becoming a columnist at -- wait for it -- Huffington Post.

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All of this stuff is chosen or environmentally influenced, AFAIC. Essentalism is another branch of atheistic/Evangelical/Fundamentalist hardline certitude and wishful thinking, imo.



Paglia is just another TERF. I mean, anyone from the era and interested in those topics was influenced by her, including myself. But she's revealed herself to be just another conservative opportunist, like the rest of the prominent TERFs.

Lol f. her.
Agreed that the stuff is chosen. I would find it extremely unlikely that political positions are hard wired. Look at Ron Reagan. Social relationships are what impact belief structures. Humans maybe hard-wired to wonder the “why” of existence especially when they become aware of mortality. Beyond that? They search and question until they, in many instances, latch onto something that provides meaning particularly if it provides real or implied membership in a “group”.
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gounion wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:10 am And to commit treason against the USA. But you're fine with that.
Yep. Steve Bannon is a felon, a domestic terrorist and a Leninist who wants to destroy the United States, and says so every day on his podcast, and he pals around with and interviews people Glenn votes for.
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True believing provides an identity in a time where it's not acceptable to just assign one at birth like medieval Europe used to do. Identity groups are common in politics, as we all know, though the drumpfoids take it to levels more common in Europe.

Quite a few true believers on both sides are much less that way from conviction than from a varying level of agreement that any change is good, and a strong feeling that they have found their tribe. They don't like the way things are, and follow anyone who would disrupt them. The shift from left to right is common, and makes more sense on a 4-quadrant model.

Bannon typifies the rugged-individualist end of the Y axis. He wants to tear down authority for his own reasons, and politically there are any number of former rabble rousers from both sides of the aisle that have that in common. He reconciles Marxism with Trumpism. People like this tend to be attracted to the movie industry, probably because it's a zoo where the keepers have fled to safety and the meanest animals survive the longest, so I've seen any number of them.
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He’s a felon & a complete lunatic.

Steve Bannon vows MAGA will destroy 'Gestapo' FBI: 'We are a threat to the American state'

During opening remarks on his War Room: Pandemic podcast, Bannon argued that the FBI should be defunded because agents served a search warrant to recover classified documents at former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate.

"Does anybody ever mention the FBI as being real assistance whatsoever except for marginal cases?" Bannon asked. "No, they've turned into the American Gestapo. They have to be defunded. They say, oh, this is dangerous talk. No, it's not. It's a political process."

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Bannon and the other fringoids of his type get stronger when we all publicize them. It's what they want us to do. In a discourse that values sheer volume over content, it's their secret weapon. Yes, they have weaponized outrage.

Ignoring them, up to a logical point, was once actually pretty effective at diminishing their food supply. It worked fairly well until Internet gave them a platform we couldn't ignore. Now the animals are indeed running the zoo.

We can't just get rid of them, but we can try to stop quoting their ravings word for word, complete with attribution by name. I never quote them, especially since we're already outraged and don't need to be convinced on how poisonous this stuff is. Right now, the strategy should be to decrease their hit count on the search engines, where their rantings are decontextualized and get way more attention than they deserve.
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ZoWie wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:19 pm Bannon and the other fringoids of his type get stronger when we all publicize them.
See, I don't agree with this. He did plenty once Trump kicked him to the curb, I would argue most of it was to assist in the strengthening of the European political right, like UK's UKIP and Five Star in Italy and National Front in France, and playing strange games with Chinese billionaires.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/16/steve-b ... exile.html

He very much likes working from the shadows. Just because U.S. media didn't report often on his activities in Europe and Asia doesn't mean they weren't worth paying attention to. Trump is not the only politician he's attached his claws to. He does play the long game.

That is every reason to keep an eye on him.
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ZoWie wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:19 pm Bannon and the other fringoids of his type get stronger when we all publicize them. It's what they want us to do. In a discourse that values sheer volume over content, it's their secret weapon. Yes, they have weaponized outrage.

Ignoring them, up to a logical point, was once actually pretty effective at diminishing their food supply. It worked fairly well until Internet gave them a platform we couldn't ignore. Now the animals are indeed running the zoo.
Meh, internet, schminternet.

I cannot think of one historical example in which ignoring them makes them go away. Especially not in this country.
We can't just get rid of them, but we can try to stop quoting their ravings word for word, complete with attribution by name. I never quote them, especially since we're already outraged and don't need to be convinced on how poisonous this stuff is. Right now, the strategy should be to decrease their hit count on the search engines, where their rantings are decontextualized and get way more attention than they deserve.
I don't think so.

The strategy of the KKK was invisible empires. People like the Silvershirts, the German American Bund and neonazis proliferated outside if the mainstream wguke ravaging minority communities long before the internet.

Dunno about you, but some of us can not afford to ignore them in hopes that they will go away.

As television news did in the previous generation, the internet is quite useful for exposing these people for what they are, as well as who their blinkered, violent followers are.
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Isn't it funny how Joe Memphis never seems to see these threads? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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gounion wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:08 pm Isn't it funny how Joe Memphis never seems to see these threads? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Notice a prominent person in the party they support comes right out and says they want to dismantle the country, weaken it for fascists to take over, and they dont say a word.

THAT is why America is BROKEN!
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gounion wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:08 pm Isn't it funny how Joe Memphis never seems to see these threads? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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gounion wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:08 pm Isn't it funny how Joe Memphis never seems to see these threads? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Is there a question here?
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JoeMemphis wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:25 am Is there a question here?
You don’t care about extremely prominent right wingers calling for revolution?
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