Christian Walker is Unloading On his Dad

[ProfX]

I do not think Lib accused GoU specifically of being a racist - personally I think it's learned behavior, not innate - simply, as he just explained, he exists in a society with institutional racism that he benefits from. As do I.

As for the accusation of CJ hating white people: no, she doesn't. Nor cis people, straight people, nor males. Nor Christians. ... etc.

[gounion]

I have said many times that white people (not just Americans), due to history and ongoing institutional racism have benefited from racism making them part of it, myself included. That some of us work very hard at changing that, but as long as we benefit from it, we are part of it. Yes, to some extent I have said anyone who benefits from it is racist in that they are benefiting from it. But I usually point out the reason I am saying this and that most of us on the left are not acting racist, but because we are part of the system, etc.

This is a simple concept that the con wont understand.

I agree with that point. We live in a racist system, and as a white male, I benefit from that system. When I became a toolmaker, it was an all-white and all-male group of over 200 men. As they started the toolmaking training, the union forced the company to take minorities and women into the training. That was the only way the union could do it - they couldn't force the company to hire minorities off the street.

Even today, we as white males benefit from the system. And it's been ingrained in us since we were children. There's a lot there that's there, even as you fight it. The only good thing is that as a liberal, I realize that and work to change things.

People like Glenn don't want to change anything.

[Glennfs]

I agree with that point. We live in a racist system, and as a white male, I benefit from that system. When I became a toolmaker, it was an all-white and all-male group of over 200 men. As they started the toolmaking training, the union forced the company to take minorities and women into the training. That was the only way the union could do it - they couldn't force the company to hire minorities off the street.

Even today, we as white males benefit from the system. And it's been ingrained in us since we were children. There's a lot there that's there, even as you fight it. The only good thing is that as a liberal, I realize that and work to change things.

People like Glenn don't want to change anything.

We lived in a racist system however in today's world minority children have the same chance in life as my grandkids.

For that mattery my children went to fully integrated schools sat in the same classroom with the same teacher the same books as every other child.
Those children also had an equal chance in life.

[gounion]

We lived in a racist system however in today's world minority children have the same chance in life as my grandkids.

For that mattery my children went to fully integrated schools sat in the same classroom with the same teacher the same books as every other child.
Those children also had an equal chance in life.

No, they don't. It's that simple - and you want them to have LESS.

And one in seven schools in South Carolina are still fully segregated.

But if everyone's equal now, tell me why blacks have little chance of becoming a CEO at a Fortune 500 company?

Or a head coach of an NFL team?

Or, last year, it was the FIRST TIME IN NFL HISTORY that a game had an all-black officiating team?

There's tons on discrimination, the higher you go in the org ladder, the more prevalent it is.

[Libertas]

One surefire clue to know when you’re dealing with a white supremacist is when that person says minorities have the exact same opportunities and access to the system as white people.

I won’t call them racist, as CJ has often pointed out, that is exactly what they want us to do.

[gounion]

One surefire clue to know when you’re dealing with a white supremacist is when that person says minorities have the exact same opportunities and access to the system as white people.

I won’t call them racist, as CJ has often pointed out, that is exactly what they want us to do.

It’s being in complete denial. I think deep down Glenn knows it’s not true, but he keeps saying it, even to himself, for ideological reasons.

[carmenjonze]

We lived in a racist system

Still do.

however in today's world minority children have the same chance in life as my grandkids.

For that mattery my children went to fully integrated schools sat in the same classroom with the same teacher the same books as every other child.
Those children also had an equal chance in life.

Fully integrated to conservative whites means “we don’t string up the first Black kid who walks through the door anymore, how mighty white of us.”

[carmenjonze]

One surefire clue to know when you’re dealing with a white supremacist is when that person says minorities have the exact same opportunities and access to the system as white people.

I won’t call them racist, as CJ has often pointed out, that is exactly what they want us to do.

This dirty bigot thinks having the cops called on me is something to joke about.

This is the abysmal regard they have for African Americans, especially those of us who are not deferential to them.

[carmenjonze]

No, they don't. It's that simple - and you want them to have LESS.

And one in seven schools in South Carolina are still fully segregated.

South Carolina was so backwards that after Brown, they spent TONS of munny actually trying to make their segregated schools "equal."

Equalization Schools: A Lesson in Education and Civil Rights - National Trust for Historic Preservation

For a historian, it doesn’t get much better than stumbling on a hitherto unexplored corner of history. For a budding historian -- even better yet.

It happened to Rebekah Dobrasko while she was pursuing a master’s degree in public history at the University of South Carolina in Columbia. She even coined a phrase to describe her rediscovery: equalization schools, or schools built in the 1950s for African-American children in a last-ditch effort to stave off integration in the south.

Dobrasko, who grew up in Sulphur, Louisiana, was at Tulane University when she learned through a roommate about the Citizens' Councils—white supremacists in the 1950s who mostly used “economic terrorism” rather than cross burning and violence. They were bankers who refused loans to African-Americans, businessmen who wouldn’t sell them fuel, politicians who kicked sharecroppers off their land.

Conservative whites do things like force segregation on others, force others onto reservations, force them into assimilation schools, force women to bear children, because they can't compete. They can't compete without the government shoving around and excluding entire groups of people for them. They still think they're entitled to it.

[Glennfs]

It’s being in complete denial. I think deep down Glenn knows it’s not true, but he keeps saying it, even to himself, for ideological reasons.

So name something where my kids or grandkids has or had an advantage over the other kids they went or are going to school with.

[gounion]

So name something where my kids or grandkids has or had an advantage over the other kids they went or are going to school with.

Pretty simple. The higher the level of employment, the more likely they will be rejected because of the color of their skin. How many Fortune 500 CEOs are black? How many NFL coaches are black?

You have the privilege of being a white male, always at the front of the line. It's like you were born on third base and you thought you hit a triple.

[JoeMemphis]

I do not think Lib accused GoU specifically of being a racist - personally I think it's learned behavior, not innate - simply, as he just explained, he exists in a society with institutional racism that he benefits from. As do I.

As for the accusation of CJ hating white people: no, she doesn't. Nor cis people, straight people, nor males. Nor Christians. ... etc.

Opinions may vary. Sounds a lot like hate. May not be directed at all white people but rather at a rather large swath of white people. I would note that she uses the “white” qualifier a whole lot. If it’s not about race, why the qualifier?

[gounion]

Opinions may vary. Sounds a lot like hate. May not be directed at all white people but rather at a rather large swath of white people. I would note that she uses the “white” qualifier a whole lot. If it’s not about race, why the qualifier?

You either can't read or you don't have good understand of the language. It's always white CONSERVATIVES.

THAT is the qualifier.

[JoeMemphis]

You either can't read or you don't have good understand of the language. It's always white CONSERVATIVES.

THAT is the qualifier.

Conservatives in that sentence is a noun dumbass. You are not smarter than a fifth grader. Go back to school.

[gounion]

Conservatives in that sentence is a noun dumbass. You are not smarter than a fifth grader. Go back to school.

You guys can't hear past "white" - but "conservative" explain why it's not racist, and pointing out that white conservatives are a problem with their racism is like saying "hey, calling a KKK person a racist is being racist yourself."

You just can't deal in reality.

[Drak]

Conservatives in that sentence is a noun dumbass. You are not smarter than a fifth grader. Go back to school.

That's funny. Next to Glennfs, you are the most ideologically impaired person on these boards. You are probably the dumbest guy in these parts.

[JoeMemphis]

You guys can't hear past "white" - but "conservative" explain why it's not racist, and pointing out that white conservatives are a problem with their racism is like saying "hey, calling a KKK person a racist is being racist yourself."

You just can't deal in reality.

If it isn’t about race then there is no reason to qualify the noun.

[gounion]

If it isn’t about race then there is no reason to qualify the noun.

You just don't get it. But we're used to that. There's none so blind as those who will not see.

[gounion]

Opinions may vary. Sounds a lot like hate. May not be directed at all white people but rather at a rather large swath of white people. I would note that she uses the “white” qualifier a whole lot. If it’s not about race, why the qualifier?

Yeah, here's the kind of "opinion" we're talking about. Your kinda guy.

A white Texas middle school teacher who was captured on video telling Black students that he believes his race is "superior" no longer works at the school, officials confirmed Monday.

"Last Friday, Nov. 11, Pflugerville ISD officials were made aware of an inappropriate conversation a teacher at Bohls Middle School had with students during an advisory class," Pflugerville Independent School District Superintendent Douglas Killian said in a statement. "As of Monday morning, Nov. 14, the teacher in question is no longer employed by Pflugerville ISD and we are actively looking for a replacement."

The unidentified teacher was captured in a video that went viral telling a classroom, which included Black students, "Deep down in my heart, I'm ethnocentric, which means I think my race is the superior one."

"I think everybody thinks that," the teacher added. "They're just not honest about it."

When a student asked him to clarify if he is racist, the teacher responded, "I think everybody is a racist at that level." A Black student then plainly tells the teacher that he no longer respects him.

And you've got Glenn OUTRAGED that the Dems are picking a BLACK MAN to replace Nancy Pelosi as Dem leader instead of a "white Christian male" which, for some reason, he feels is the only type of human being that is actually qualified to be a leader of any sort.

[JoeMemphis]

Yeah, here's the kind of "opinion" we're talking about. Your kinda guy.



And you've got Glenn OUTRAGED that the Dems are picking a BLACK MAN to replace Nancy Pelosi as Dem leader instead of a "white Christian male" which, for some reason, he feels is the only type of human being that is actually qualified to be a leader of any sort.

Now that’s deflection.

[JoeMemphis]

You just don't get it. But we're used to that. There's none so blind as those who will not see.

I get you can’t explain it. I AM used to that.

[gounion]

I get you can’t explain it. I AM used to that.

You're the idiot that can't see past the word "white"!

[JoeMemphis]

You're the idiot that can't see past the word "white"!

Since you don’t run away. Explain why if the argument isn’t about race, the color qualifier is necessary. I took a race relations class 40 years ago in college. That was one of the ways we learned to recognize racism and racial bias was the use of qualifiers based on race. Now you, who claim to care about racism, can’t recognize a racial statement. Or maybe you just chose to ignore it because it’s inconvenient for you to do otherwise.

So how about it. If it’s not about race, why use the racial qualifier. That particular poster does it all the time and not a peep from you or any of the other “enlightened” posters.

[carmenjonze]

Opinions may vary. Sounds a lot like hate.

I could really give a sh#t what my posts sound like to conservative whites.

May not be directed at all white people but rather at a rather large swath of white people.

White conservatism is designed to suppress entire swaths of multiple peoples, based not solely on race, but gender, sexuality, immigrant status, and economic status. Start with what your own vindictive community does to everyone else, if you're looking to cry "broad brush."

I would note that she uses the “white” qualifier a whole lot. If it’s not about race, why the qualifier?

is this how they teach you to argue at Bell Buckle Bible College?

You personally don't even have the courage or integrity to address me directly, and instead pretend to have me and really this entire board on "ignore," anyway. :problem:

It's definitely about racial ideology. That's been devised by a very specific type of conservatism, built around using government and vigilante forces to hold everyone else back so so-called whites can thrive, especially the men.

I guess they do not teach standard grammar at Bell Buckle Bible College, either.

"White" is not a qualifier. "White" is not the problem. Conservatism is the problem. White conservatism throughout this hemisphere has been a destructive, genocidal, malignant force from Nova Scotia to Tierra Del Fuego. White conservatism as practiced in this country is one of the world's most notorious forms. It has been lethal to us, and still is.

But because you as a white con are just as race-paranoid as the rest of them, you see the word "white" coming from a Black person and your brain freezes.

[carmenjonze]

Since you don’t run away. Explain why if the argument isn’t about race, the color qualifier is necessary. I took a race relations class 40 years ago

"40 years ago," i.e. the era of Reaganism, and impacted redlining all over your state. :problem:

You should go online and take a class now, and learn something about how the field of study has changed.

But then again, I don't think Bell Buckle Bible College has online classes, though. :/

If it isn’t about race then there is no reason to qualify the noun.

If it’s not about race, why the qualifier?

If it’s not about race, why use the racial qualifier.

not one person here has said it's "not about race."

As I just said, "it" is definitely about the racial iand white supremacist ideologies implemented by old-school segregationism, Indian Killing, Manifest Destiny, Exclusion Acts, eugenics boards, and immigration quotas, and continued into the present-day movement conservatism. The point is to benefit so-called whites at the expense of everyone else.

Only ONE group of people, only ONE demographic has done this to others: they are not simply "white," or merely "conservative," they are both.

That particular poster does it all the time

I will contiue to do so as long as white conservatism remains the destructive force that drives you guys's social, economic, and immigration policies.

...and not a peep from you or any of the other “enlightened” posters.

Ask me your question directly, white-flag coward who claims to have basically everyone except 2 people on ignore. :problem: