Christian Walker is Unloading On his Dad

[bradman]

Doing nothing at all is a bad choice. But it’s an easy one to make when it’s not your gathering places and houses of worship aren’t literally in the crosshairs of conservative whites.

Didn't say to do nothing at all.

Right now, the best thing to do is to do nothing at all.

Clarity takes time.

[carmenjonze]

Clarity takes time.

The issue of clarity becomes clear as a bell when these people are shooting up our bars.

Perhaps you feel you have the luxury of "time," though those of us have the benefit of hundreds of years of addressing these people's tactics and strategies.

Meanwhile, they mass-murder trans people in our own LGBTQ bars within a matter of minutes.

We are on our own.

[bradman]

The issue of clarity becomes clear as a bell when conservative whites are shooting up our bars.

Perhaps you feel you have the luxury of "time," though those of us have the benefit of hundreds of years of addressing these people's tactics and strategies.

Meanwhile, they mass-murder trans people in our own LGBTQ bars within a matter of minutes.

We are on our own.

No, you're not. Neither is my son.

[Glennfs]

Your form of outrage is voting for the most extremist politicians in the country while crying uncleriley here, because there is a Black person critiquing how brutal and vicious your community has been to African Americans, Native Americans, Asian Americans, Latino Americans, all Muslims, all immigrants, and all LGBTQs.

Not to mention 51% of the popluation: all women.

Your form of outrage is crying Hitler and trashing the memories of Holocaust victims when your community is criticized.

You actually believe you're in the Holocaust.

You are an idiot not one thing you said is true. It only exposes your personal prejudice about conservatives.

[carmenjonze]

No, you're not.

We basically are.

Neither is my son.

Your son has an entire global civil rights movement backing him up, and that he is a part of by default.

I am a part of it, and he is part of my community. It's here because of us and the activist traditions we've formed.

None of those traditions have come about by capitulating to those who hate and wish to eliminate us.

[bradman]

We basically are.



Your son has an entire global civil rights movement backing him up, and that he is a part of by default.

I am a part of it, and he is part of my community. It's here because of us and the activist traditions we've formed.

None of those traditions have come about by capitulating to those who hate and wish to eliminate us.

[bold]As am i, his Mother, his family.

Thank you for laying the ground work.

[carmenjonze]

You are an idiot ...

Am I?

You recently referred to me as a friend - http://radiofreeliberal.com/viewtopic.p ... 098#p45098. (We are not friends.) This is how you treat friends?

Yes, this indeed is how conservative whites treat friends. :problem:

... not one thing you said is true.

All of it is true. That's why you have to rely on crying uncleriley for sympathy when you're a perp from a perpetrator family.

You're not victims, even though you've acted like it since 1870.

It only exposes your personal prejudice about conservatives.

Well, it would be one thing if "conservatives" just had it out for me personally, wouldn't it.

Conservatives -- white conservatives in particular -- have the history of stamping out and suppressing every other "minority" group in this country, and you're still doing it. Native Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, Latinos, LGBTQs of every ethnicity, Jews of every stripe, Muslims as an entire religion, and you just celebrated making all women into second-class citizens.

Conservatives are LEGENDARILY the people with the prejudices. Thank God the vast majority of you jumped ship to the Republican Party after we took legalized, government-forced segregationism away from you. Gratefully, you've remained there throughout the Don't Ask Don't Tell/Defense of Marriage Act years, the DACA years, and the COVID years.

Don't ever come back.

[carmenjonze]

[bold]As am i, his Mother, his family.

Thank you for laying the ground work.

Well, we're still laying the ground work, with the help of his generation and younger. We are helped by the younger generations and the parents who support them.

We know you are under legal and legislative attack in some states, like has never happened before in this country's history. These specific anti-trans laws being passed are the first of their kind. We also know that when these cons yap about "parents" and "parents rights" they are not talking about LGBTQ parents or parents of LGBTQ people. They're just talking about the parents in their miserable communities.

What I can say is, bending to these people's ridiculous gender and sexuality-based demands has never worked. MLK laid that out for us starting in 1963. Stonewall and Compton's Cafeteria did in 1969 and 1966. Sparks of hope from 50+ years ago still keeps us going against an entire wall of white-supremacist, forced-cishetero machinery.

[bradman]

Well, we're still laying the ground work, with the help of his generation and younger. We are helped by the younger generations and the parents who support them.

We know you are under legal and legislative attack in some states, like has never happened before in this country's history. These specific anti-trans laws being passed are the first of their kind. We also know that when these cons yap about "parents" and "parents rights" they are not talking about LGBTQ parents or parents of LGBTQ people. They're just talking about the parents in their miserable communities.

What I can say is, bending to these people's ridiculous gender and sexuality-based demands has never worked. MLK laid that out for us starting in 1963. Stonewall and Compton's Cafeteria did in 1969 and 1966. Sparks of hope from 50+ years ago still keeps us going against an entire wall of white-supremacist, forced-cishetero machinery.

[bold]Ya forgot family.

[carmenjonze]

[bold]Ya forgot family.

Parents are family. How did I forget family by mentioning parents?

We are very often each other's family, particuarly people who got kicked out of the house and have had to find their own families.

This is one reason gay bars are so important in our cultures.

One thing that your conservative friends do not wish to acknowledge is the strong tradition of parents and family who do not abandon us, and instead fight for us. They are currently being targeted for jailtime for supporting their own children.

(IMO this is also why they do not want actual US history taught in schools. Then children will learn about how to turn back their vicious legislation and laws.)

In my generation, we queers, too, are part of the PFLAG that sustained us because we, too, are now parents and grandparents.

You are probably already a PFLAG member, but for others, check this out - Supporting Your LGBTQ+ Grandchild

I say we our on our own because these are the institutions and organizations WE built, and that WE sustain with OUR money and OUR work. So we literally, monetarily, cannot afford for them to not be there.

[Libertas]

https://pflag.org/resource/YourLGBTQGrandchild

It has a button on the top

"Leave this site now"

Never seen that before, and when you click on it, sure enough you leave. I have just never seen that before.

[carmenjonze]

https://pflag.org/resource/YourLGBTQGrandchild

It has a button on the top

"Leave this site now"

Never seen that before, and when you click on it, sure enough you leave. I have just never seen that before.

A lot of queer organizations have that on their sites. Same for sites dealing with domestic and IPV violence.

[carmenjonze]

Social conservatism crushes, maims, and kills.

[carmenjonze]

These people call US the "groomers."

Protect yourselves and your children from them.
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[carmenjonze]

It only exposes your personal prejudice about conservatives.

conservatism is a cesspool of blanket, mass, institutional, and personal “prejudice.” It’s all you guys are capable of. Well, that, and then turning around and crying victimhood of those you suppress.

It’s also no big secret that conservatives are openly bigoted and prejudiced against my person on several accounts, and you are aggressively working to make me personally into a second-class citizen with limited rights, again.

I’ve never hidden that I am strongly biased and self-protective against those who are biased against me.

It makes you wanna nightride, I know.

However, I am NOT biased and self-protective against against those who are NOT biased against me. So stop your whining about prejudice when you think nigger-baiting me is a funny joke.

[Libertas]

conservatism is a cesspool of blanket, mass, institutional, and personal “prejudice.” It’s all you guys are capable of. Well, that, and then turning around and crying victimhood of those you suppress.

It’s also no big secret that conservatives are openly bigoted and prejudiced against my person on several accounts, and you are aggressively working to make me personally into a second-class citizen with limited rights, again.

I’ve never hidden that I am strongly biased and self-protective against those who are biased against me.

It makes you wanna nightride, I know.

However, I am NOT biased and self-protective against against those who are NOT biased against me. So stop your whining about prejudice when you think nigger-baiting me is a funny joke.

Imagine that, you are biased against people who want you dead. How unneighborly of you.

[gounion]

Imagine that, you are biased against people who want you dead. How unneighborly of you.

One of the things the right uses is that "blacks are racist too, so it's okay for us to hate them".

When I first went to work in the aircraft plant, I was a helper to an old black man, who treated me like crap. I didn't say anything, and worked hard, and never said a bad word back to him. After a few months - yeah, it took that long - he warmed up to me, and got much better. We'd eat lunch together. He told me that, as a child, his grandfather did something or other that pissed off a white man, and was lynched. It was a big social occasion for the white town, and all the white townspeople came out and made a picnic holiday over it. He saw him get lynched from a hilltop. He's hated white people ever since.

Now, in 1979 he was over 60. So that would have been around 1930, in the midst of Jim Crow America.

But I guess today's righties would have told him to "get over it". He couldn't, and I couldn't blame him. I did respect him. He even apologized to me for treating me badly.

[Libertas]

One of the things the right uses is that "blacks are racist too, so it's okay for us to hate them".

When I first went to work in the aircraft plant, I was a helper to an old black man, who treated me like crap. I didn't say anything, and worked hard, and never said a bad word back to him. After a few months - yeah, it took that long - he warmed up to me, and got much better. We'd eat lunch together. He told me that, as a child, his grandfather did something or other that pissed off a white man, and was lynched. It was a big social occasion for the white town, and all the white townspeople came out and made a picnic holiday over it. He saw him get lynched from a hilltop. He's hated white people ever since.

Now, in 1979 he was over 60. So that would have been around 1930, in the midst of Jim Crow America.

But I guess today's righties would have told him to "get over it". He couldn't, and I couldn't blame him. I did respect him. He even apologized to me for treating me badly.

I cant imagine watching a family member killed, at all, let alone this way.

Not only would I hate the people who did this, I would figure out a way to GET BACK at them in ways far beyond talking impolitely.

I appreciate you telling this story, and it helps me (only speaking for myself) better understand the attitude any Black person would have about the continued white supremacist movement aka modern GOP.

[gounion]

I cant imagine watching a family member killed, at all, let alone this way.

Not only would I hate the people who did this, I would figure out a way to GET BACK at them in ways far beyond talking impolitely.

I appreciate you telling this story, and it helps me (only speaking for myself) better understand the attitude any Black person would have about the continued white supremacist movement aka modern GOP.

Not much could be done in Jim Crow America. Anything that happened to the white people, would be repaid multiplied to the black community. So you just had to swallow it.

I was changed as a child watching To Kill a Mockingbird, and later as a young teen reading Black Like Me, as well as many other books and movies through the years. It's hard to understand how black people felt under the crushing weight of Jim Crow, and I never can. But I can't blame them for not taking it and loving it.

[carmenjonze]

Imagine that, you are biased against people who want you dead. How unneighborly of you.

The most barbaric people in this country demand so-called civility from those whose civil rights they suppress.

They also get extremely nervous about us protecting ourselves from them. The very idea is an existential threat. Like most things are to them, I guess.

What a weird way to live life: set up all manner of violent systems to keep the vast majority of the population (I.e. all us “minorities”) down. Then practically drown in paranoia knowing just how flimsy and manufactured-by-the-government their supposed superiority actually is.

So weird.

[Glennfs]

Imagine that, you are biased against people who want you dead. How unneighborly of you.

Nobody wants you dead you are in need of physiological help.

[Glennfs]

The most barbaric people in this country demand so-called civility from those whose civil rights they suppress.

They also get extremely nervous about us protecting ourselves from them. The very idea is an existential threat. Like most things are to them, I guess.

What a weird way to live life: set up all manner of violent systems to keep the vast majority of the population (I.e. all us “minorities”) down. Then practically drown in paranoia knowing just how flimsy and manufactured-by-the-government their supposed superiority actually is.

So weird.

Most barbaric people in our country link please.


These crime statistics would disagree with you.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... s/table-43

[gounion]

Most barbaric people in our country link please.

Oh, like here.

Across the country, openly carrying a gun in public is no longer just an exercise in self-defense — increasingly it is a soapbox for elevating one’s voice and, just as often, quieting someone else’s.

This month, armed protesters appeared outside an elections center in Phoenix, hurling baseless accusations that the election for governor had been stolen from the Republican, Kari Lake. In October, Proud Boys with guns joined a rally in Nashville where conservative lawmakers spoke against transgender medical treatments for minors.

In June, armed demonstrations around the United States amounted to nearly one a day. A group led by a former Republican state legislator protested a gay pride event in a public park in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. Men with guns interrupted a Juneteenth festival in Franklin, Tenn., handing out fliers claiming that white people were being replaced. Among the others were rallies in support of gun rights in Delaware and abortion rights in Georgia.

Whether at the local library, in a park or on Main Street, most of these incidents happen where Republicans have fought to expand the ability to bear arms in public, a movement bolstered by a recent Supreme Court ruling on the right to carry firearms outside the home. The loosening of limits has occurred as violent political rhetoric rises and the police in some places fear bloodshed among an armed populace on a hair trigger.

How would you feel if you go to a protest and people on the other side show up like this?

[carmenjonze]

Most barbaric people in our country link please.

You have at least ten outstanding link requests in this thread. Link, please. Where are your answers?

[carmenjonze]

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... s/table-43

#negrocrime

The point of the post is you guys' insistence that the targets of your violence and aggressions be civil with you, when you are not civil to anyone, not even other whites.

We know this on a small scale by the way you treat GoU, for example.

And you sure as hell have NEVER been civil to us, and you aren't, now, either.