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Number6 wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:53 am Deflecting from the topic of this thread because you can't support your comments. Stay on topic.
I’m not sure this legislation is necessary as we have SCOTUS rulings on these issues. That being said, if in the aftermath of the Roe ruling, Congress passes legislation codifying the right of persons to marry their partner of choice regardless of race or gender, I am supportive of such a measure. To me it’s an equal protection issue, plain and simple.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:19 am I’m not sure this legislation is necessary as we have SCOTUS rulings on these issues.
:?

This is WHY “we” need this legislation, you stupid idiot.

Further, “we” — I.e. the actual people affected by social conservatism — need an actual law because of a-holes like you who vote for lawmakers like DeSantis, Blackburn, Greene, Boebert, and othe Free Dumb Caucus demagogues.
I am supportive of such a measure. To me it’s an equal protection issue, plain and simple.
:?

“Equal protection” is only an issue in this country because of a-holes like you, who are so threatened by the very idea of equality under the law that you run out and throw your vote at freaks like Rubio, Cruz, and these other mainstreamed extremists.

F. your so-called support. We do not need “support” from the very people we must protect ourselves from. You can’t get any more counterintuitive than that.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:19 am I’m not sure this legislation is necessary as we have SCOTUS rulings on these issues. That being said, if in the aftermath of the Roe ruling, Congress passes legislation codifying the right of persons to marry their partner of choice regardless of race or gender, I am supportive of such a measure. To me it’s an equal protection issue, plain and simple.
Clarence Thomas has said that he wants to “revisit” i.e. overturn Obergefell. And Republicans will block codifying it into law that you have the right in all states to marry. That’s what you voted for.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:49 am Clarence Thomas has said that he wants to “revisit” i.e. overturn Obergefell. And Republicans will block codifying it into law that you have the right in all states to marry. That’s what you voted for.
Clarence Thomas is 1 of 9.

That’s far from a majority.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ns-senate/

The simple reason Republican senators voted against same-sex marriage
Their voters and donors are more likely to oppose it
including board cons... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

scumbags
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:32 am Clarence Thomas is 1 of 9.

That’s far from a majority.
He speaks for four others. The same ones that overturned Roe. They all say that there is no right to privacy under the Constitution.

How about YOU, Joe? Do you think you have a right to privacy under the Constitution? Yes or no?
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6 justices voted to overturn Roe with Dobbs, and all of them pretty much said they would respect stare decisis in their hearings.

So, I've learned not to trust them, and to expect surprises, and not take them at their word.
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ProfX wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:46 pm 6 justices voted to overturn Roe with Dobbs, and all of them pretty much said they would respect stare decisis in their hearings.

So, I've learned not to trust them, and to expect surprises, and not take them at their word.
I was listening to Dean Obeidallah and he disagrees. He says they were intentionally asked open-ended questions that they could answer the way they did.
He went in to say how ridiculous these hearings have become because of those type of questions.
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ProfX wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:46 pm 6 justices voted to overturn Roe with Dobbs, and all of them pretty much said they would respect stare decisis in their hearings.

So, I've learned not to trust them, and to expect surprises, and not take them at their word.
Joe doesn't believe them either - and he WANTS them to overturn everything. He's just pretending, as are the rest of them.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:52 pm Joe doesn't believe them either - and he WANTS them to overturn everything. He's just pretending, as are the rest of them.
I didn't know you were psychic so tell us what will the numbers be this week. Oh great mystic that knows all tells all and crawls on his belly like a reptile
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:17 pm I didn't know you were psychic so tell us what will the numbers be this week. Oh great mystic that knows all tells all and crawls on his belly like a reptile
Just like you - you WANTED every one of these far-right-wing Justices, so don't pretend you don't like it when they do what you voted for them to do. They are your heroes.

Even if they are all lying sacks of shit who lied not only to Trump to get the job, but to the Senate under oath that they believed in Roe v. Wade being settled law.

And when they overturn all those other "right to privacy" cases, you'll pretend to be surprised when they do it.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:20 pm Just like you - you WANTED every one of these far-right-wing Justices, so don't pretend you don't like it when they do what you voted for them to do. They are your heroes.

Even if they are all lying sacks of shit who lied not only to Trump to get the job, but to the Senate under oath that they believed in Roe v. Wade being settled law.

And when they overturn all those other "right to privacy" cases, you'll pretend to be surprised when they do it.
Again I refer to Dean Obeidallah who pointed out they never actually answered the question.
They never said they wouldn't overturn it. Now I am pretty sure every member of that committee is a lawyer. Surely one of them was smart enough to know a non answer when they hear it.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:29 pm Again I refer to Dean Obeidallah who pointed out they never actually answered the question.
They never said they wouldn't overturn it. Now I am pretty sure every member of that committee is a lawyer. Surely one of them was smart enough to know a non answer when they hear it.
They lied and you know it.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:29 pm Again I refer to Dean Obeidallah who pointed out they never actually answered the question.
They never said they wouldn't overturn it. Now I am pretty sure every member of that committee is a lawyer. Surely one of them was smart enough to know a non answer when they hear it.
You have chosen to throw your vote at people who are intent on making millions of people second-class citiens.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:17 pm I didn't know you were psychic so tell us what will the numbers be this week. Oh great mystic that knows all tells all and crawls on his belly like a reptile
These are the 157 House members who think heterosexuals are supposed to have special rights over everyone else.

These Are the 157 House of Representatives Members Who Voted Against Protecting Marriage Equality - Katie Couric
Ralph Norman (S.C.)
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:51 pm
Ralph Norman on the Family Research Council show.

https://anchor.fm/ loving-liberty/ episodes/09-08-2022-Washington-Watch-Live-with-Tony-Perkins-e1nk1s8
- not linking to Christian Nationalist fascism show. Find it, yourself.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:51 pm
Family Research Council - Sourcewatch
The Family Research Council (FRC) is a Christian Right activist organization in Washington, D.C. that grew out of Ronald Reagan's neoconservative "pro-family" domestic agenda. FRC opposes and lobbies against access to pornography, embryonic stem-cell research, abortion, divorce, and LGBT rights (such as anti-discrimination laws, same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, and LGBT adoption).[1]

FRC is a designated hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[2]
"The idea of the Family Research Council originated at the 1980 White House Conference on Families. Among the conferees, James Dobson stood out because of his rare combination of Christian social values and academic and professional credentials. A practicing clinical psychologist and noted author, Dobson had recently transitioned into radio broadcasting and also launched a nonprofit, family service organization. He felt that the time was ripe to establish an organization that would drive the national debate on family issues. In 1983, the Family Research Council incorporated as a nonprofit educational institution in the District of Columbia; its founding board included Dobson and two noted psychiatrists, Armand Nicholoi. Jr. of Harvard University and George Rekers of the University of South Carolina," it states.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:09 pm Family Research Council - Sourcewatch





Your state is full of conservative perverts.
Can board cons have a drink if their wife is not in the room? Pence nor anyone at FRC can.

These people, all of them, have the maturity of a 11 yr old. This is not an exaggeration, and I dont know how this happens, would be interesting to do research on them. children basically
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Libertas wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:12 pm Can board cons have a drink if their wife is not in the room? Pence nor anyone on FRC can.

These people, all of them, have the maturity of a 11 yr old. This is not an exaggeration, and I dont know how this happens, would be interesting to do research on them. children basically
More like an 19 year old that screws high school girls, but yeah.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:19 pm More like an 19 year old that screws high school girls, but yeah.
Talk about arrested development.

And we spend our entire lives reacting to them, trying to protect the economy, environment, humans, etc.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:52 pm Joe doesn't believe them either - and he WANTS them to overturn everything. He's just pretending, as are the rest of them.
Can’t trust conservative men.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:24 pm He speaks for four others. The same ones that overturned Roe. They all say that there is no right to privacy under the Constitution.

How about YOU, Joe? Do you think you have a right to privacy under the Constitution? Yes or no?
I don’t know that he speaks for four others. That’s pure speculation on your part.

I believe I have the rights enumerated in the Constitution and the Bill of rights and the rights passed legislatively by the Congress and signed by the President.

I think the vast majority of Conservatives and Liberals would agree the we have a right to make our own medical decisions. Although that right got severely bent during the pandemic. However, in the case of pregnancy, there is a potential human life involved. Therein lies the rub. Does that unborn life have rights and when do those rights begin and how do you balance those rights with the rights of the mother. I don’t have the answer but I do know that Roe was about much more than the right to privacy and the right to make your own medical decisions.

It isn’t a yes or no question.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:39 pm I believe…
The topic is the Respect for Marriage act, not your stupid “beliefs” that are contingent of the second-class citizenship of millions of Americans.
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Dumb conservative “prolife” men, who are pro war, pro-criminalizion of healthcare, and the elimination of trans & queer people from public life.

F. you freaks.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:46 pm Dumb conservative “prolife” men, who are pro war, pro-criminalizion of healthcare, and the elimination of trans & queer people from public life.

F. you freaks.
And they are not changing, ever.
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