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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:28 am They spent 10 percent of the time blaming the economy on Biden, but never said ONE TIME what they'd do if they got power. The rest of the time they said what their plans were, which was to shut down the government, stop all aid to Ukraine so Putin could take the country for Communism, and start impeachment into Biden and Merrick Garland, and investigate their whole enemies list, including Hunter, Dr. Fauci and everyone else they hate.

To which Joe is all on board with!
Bu yeah, that stuff’s all an equivalence to an attempted overthrow of the government on J6, according to Joe Memphis. Fair is fair.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:14 am He's already being investigated. There's a Grand Jury empaneled. But, he's never been a government employee, so I fail to see why it's the top priority of the next Congress.

But Joe, this is what you voted for, and you're obviously pleased they are doing what they said they would do when they got your vote. Who cares about anything else. I guess when you say you vote for your own interests that THIS is what is in your interest, not the economy or inflation or anything else.
I vote for and support a government free of corruption. That’s ideal. Hard to get there. However, we won’t get close to that without setting standards that we are willing to apply equally across the board regardless of party. We won’t get there without enforcement mechanisms. Every government official and employee should be aware that there are standards of conduct and when they stray from those standards they may be subject to investigation and sanctions.

I don’t give two shits about Hunter Biden. However if he was influence peddling with foreign countries or domestic organizations and the Senior Biden profited directly or indirectly, that is a concern and that is worthy of investigation. If it was worthy of investigation in the previous administration, the same holds true for this administration.

I see no reason that these investigations cannot proceed at the same time as other government business. I mean we have 535 members of Congress. 435 of them are in the house. They all have staffs and investigators available to them. They should be able to multi task. My hope would be these investigations would proceed quietly and professionally but that is not the current standard for such things. I guess we shall see.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:41 am I vote for and support a government free of corruption.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:41 am I vote for and support a government free of corruption. That’s ideal. Hard to get there. However, we won’t get close to that without setting standards that we are willing to apply equally across the board regardless of party. We won’t get there without enforcement mechanisms. Every government official and employee should be aware that there are standards of conduct and when they stray from those standards they may be subject to investigation and sanctions.
Let's be clear: If you want no corruption, then you won't be voting GOP. President Obama had an eight-year term, the first in modern history where NO ONE in his administration was indicted or jailed. That included Vice President Joe Biden, who is, like Obama, running a squeaky-clean administration.

Let's remember YOUR Senator is one of the most corrupt in history, stealing more from the government than anyone in history, but you'll vote for him. And your Governor, who you voted for, is in trouble already for corruption.
I don’t give two shits about Hunter Biden. However if he was influence peddling with foreign countries or domestic organizations and the Senior Biden profited directly or indirectly, that is a concern and that is worthy of investigation. If it was worthy of investigation in the previous administration, the same holds true for this administration.
Oh, he's been investigated by a Grand Jury, and indictments are probably forthcoming - but for his personal wrongdoing, as drug addicts are wont to do. Nothing about his father. Because it's not there. Joe Biden isn't stupid enough to let a drug-addicted son influence him.
I see no reason that these investigations cannot proceed at the same time as other government business. I mean we have 535 members of Congress. 435 of them are in the house. They all have staffs and investigators available to them. They should be able to multi task. My hope would be these investigations would proceed quietly and professionally but that is not the current standard for such things. I guess we shall see.
Oh? Well, in the GOP's first Press Conference after claiming the leadership of the next Congress, all they wanted to talk about was Hunter Biden.

And YOUR standard is putting MTG on the House Oversight Committee, and you want to pretend things are going to be done quietly and professionally? Bullshit. Again, Joe, this is what you voted for. It's going to a crazy nutjob show, and you're going to be all in on it.

Republicans can't govern. All they can do is destroy, and you voted for destruction. Own it.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:54 am Let's be clear: If you want no corruption, then you won't be voting GOP. President Obama had an eight-year term, the first in modern history where NO ONE in his administration was indicted or jailed. That included Vice President Joe Biden, who is, like Obama, running a squeaky-clean administration.

Let's remember YOUR Senator is one of the most corrupt in history, stealing more from the government than anyone in history, but you'll vote for him. And your Governor, who you voted for, is in trouble already for corruption.

Oh, he's been investigated by a Grand Jury, and indictments are probably forthcoming - but for his personal wrongdoing, as drug addicts are wont to do. Nothing about his father. Because it's not there. Joe Biden isn't stupid enough to let a drug-addicted son influence him.
Oh? Well, in the GOP's first Press Conference after claiming the leadership of the next Congress, all they wanted to talk about was Hunter Biden.

And YOUR standard is putting MTG on the House Oversight Committee, and you want to pretend things are going to be done quietly and professionally? Bullshit. Again, Joe, this is what you voted for. It's going to a crazy nutjob show, and you're going to be all in on it.

Republicans can't govern. All they can do is destroy, and you voted for destruction. Own it.
Obama wasn’t investigated because he had an AG that was more concerned with being a good “wingman” than he was with actually doing his job.

You act as if there is no corruption and has never been any corruption in the Democratic Party. Take off the rose colored glasses. If lack of corruption is the standard for supporting, then neither party would get my vote.

Congress isn’t the Grand Jury but you know that already. Weak excuse. Congress has oversight responsibility which is separate and different from the DOJ. But you know that as well. Congress often investigates private citizens when the conduct of that individual could potentially affect or influence the operation of government. Just the other day, your President mentioned potentially investigating Elon Musk. A couple of Senators mentioned his name as well. He’s not a government employee.

Again. I didn’t oppose investigations into the previous administration. And to be clear, that administration was investigated pretty much continually for most of the last 6 years. I’m not going to oppose legitimate investigations into this administration either. That would be a double standard. I get you are comfortable with double standards. Me, I think they are meaningless and lead to corruption.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:09 am Obama wasn’t investigated because he had an AG that was more concerned with being a good “wingman” than he was with actually doing his job.
Bullshit. But that's all you have.
You act as if there is no corruption and has never been any corruption in the Democratic Party. Take off the rose colored glasses. If lack of corruption is the standard for supporting, then neither party would get my vote.
False equivalency. The GOP, by ANY standard, is and has been FAR more corrupt than the Dems. The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by numerous scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any president in American history.

Your Senator stole more money from the federal government than anyone in history, but you'll vote for him. Your governor spent state tax money to send Asylum seekers from Texas to Massachusetts. But you voted for him anyway.

If you didn't want corruption, you would have voted for Joe Biden in 2020. But you didn't.

So quit pretending to be Mr. Middle-of-the-Road. You're a far-right ideologue, who will accept any corruption from your side.
Congress isn’t the Grand Jury but you know that already. Weak excuse. Congress has oversight responsibility which is separate and different from the DOJ. But you know that as well. Congress often investigates private citizens when the conduct of that individual could potentially affect or influence the operation of government. Just the other day, your President mentioned potentially investigating Elon Musk. A couple of Senators mentioned his name as well. He’s not a government employee.
And you can't see the difference. Congress DOES have oversight of our media. And there is zero evidence whatsoever that Hunter Biden's actions had any influence upon his father. But you don't care, do you? A witch hunt is fine with you.
Again. I didn’t oppose investigations into the previous administration. And to be clear, that administration was investigated pretty much continually for most of the last 6 years. I’m not going to oppose legitimate investigations into this administration either. That would be a double standard. I get you are comfortable with double standards. Me, I think they are meaningless and lead to corruption.
Yes you did. You said that since the DoJ was investigating Jan 6th, there was no reason for Congress to do so. And you can't admit there is reason to investigate Donald Trump.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:18 am Bullshit. But that's all you have.

False equivalency. The GOP, by ANY standard, is and has been FAR more corrupt than the Dems. The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by numerous scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any president in American history.

Your Senator stole more money from the federal government than anyone in history, but you'll vote for him. Your governor spent state tax money to send Asylum seekers from Texas to Massachusetts. But you voted for him anyway.

If you didn't want corruption, you would have voted for Joe Biden in 2020. But you didn't.

So quit pretending to be Mr. Middle-of-the-Road. You're a far-right ideologue, who will accept any corruption from your side.

And you can't see the difference. Congress DOES have oversight of our media. And there is zero evidence whatsoever that Hunter Biden's actions had any influence upon his father. But you don't care, do you? A witch hunt is fine with you.

Yes you did. You said that since the DoJ was investigating Jan 6th, there was no reason for Congress to do so. And you can't admit there is reason to investigate Donald Trump.
I never said Congress didn’t have a legitimate right to investigate. I never opposed a single investigation. What I did say is that to enforce Congressional subpoena power requires the DOJ’s support. Without that congressional investigations can and are stonewalled and toothless. That’s the Obama/Holder strategy.

I have much more confidence in DOJ investigations as long as they are performed by objective, independent, competent and thorough professional law enforcement officers. That doesn’t mean that I don’t also support the legitimate right of Congress to investigate under their oversight responsibility. I challenge you to show where I have ever objected to that.

As to your last statement, I supported every single investigation into DJT. Never objected nor made excuses for a single one. Once again. I have no double standard here. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. You should try it instead of twisting yourself into a pretzel or flip flopping like a fish on hot concrete.
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Yeah, Joe Memphis really votes for a government free of corruption. :lol: :roll:

Meanwhile, we got Trump with his already pile high list of indictments against him and his administration, attempting to destroy America with a coup and then pilfering top secret documents and stashing them at Mar a Lago. But then Joe never says a word about it and doesn't care, then votes for Trumpers who refuse to hold him accountable, knowing all this. This guy's so full of shit I'm surprised he doesn't constantly slip off the keyboard every time he tries to post.

And these graphs and images are even dated.

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Seriously dude, sit down.
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Drak wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:44 am :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah I laughed too after I threw up a little.

I don’t see how we can survive these people; it’s not going to end well.

There are no bigger hypocrites on earth, they have no morals or true values.
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Drak wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:06 am Here we go. It’s going to be endless show trials airing Trump’s grievances and retribution for the next two years. They’re already setting up committees headed by the likes of MTG to go after Pelosi (what for?) and the DOJ about how J6 defendants are being “treated,” as well as Hunter Biden, a private citizen.

The reason there was no Red Wave is due to MAGA extremism. But this won’t stop. It’s going to be two years of complete bullshit and a serious waste of money, instead of working for America. This will hurt them more in 2024. People are sick of this garbage.
There was no red wave because the democratic party through its surrogates spent 53 million getting those maga Republicans on the ballot.

Which proves all the end of the world and fascist talk was a lie put out by the democratic party. Knowing their base are low information dupes who believe anything they are told
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:59 pm There was no red wave because the democratic party through its surrogate spent 53 million getting those maga Republicans on the ballot.

Which proves all the end of the world and fascist talk was a lie put out by the democratic party. Knowing their base are low information dupes who believe anything they are told
You can't take responsibility for anything, can you? Nope, the GOP and the electorate was outfoxed by the cunning Dems, and the American people WANTED a red wave because they love EVERYTHING the GOP stands for, right? They WANT the GOP to do nothing but investigate Hunter Biden the next two years.
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They probably got ten times that amount from dark money, probably including foreign sources, but keep citing that figure.
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ProfX wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:02 pm They probably got ten times that amount from dark money, probably including foreign sources, but keep citing that figure.
Glenn will use that for the next two years. He'll probably cite that three or four hundred times on the board. That's because he is incapable of taking responsibility for the GOP's actions. Nothing is EVER their fault.
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Drak wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:16 pm Of course, all of this stuff is being directed by Donald Trump. Never buy into Joe Memphis or Glenn claiming they are not Trumpers (not you specifically, just a saying). They are. Pretty sad they are too cowardly to admit it, even on a message board. But then I guess they think it blows some sort of cover they think they have on here.
Why would we be to cowardly to admit it?
You think we are trying to get a seat at the cool kids table?
Trump.is a crook who has committed multiple crimes. I have never voted for him and never will
I suppose you believe that liberal organizations didn't know he was shady when they were honoring him at banquets
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:08 pm Why would we be to cowardly to admit it?
You think we are trying to get a seat at the cool kids table?
Trump.is a crook who has committed multiple crimes. I have never voted for him and never will
I suppose you believe that liberal organizations didn't know he was shady when they were honoring him at banquets
You believe everything Trump says, and always defend him. You vote for all his supporters and side guys. Hell, Tim Scott is begging to be his VP Nominee, and you support him. You support Lindsey Graham and his criminal conduct helping Trump try to overturn an election.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:13 pm You believe everything Trump says, and always defend him. You vote for all his supporters and side guys. Hell, Tim Scott is begging to be his VP Nominee, and you support him. You support Lindsey Graham and his criminal conduct helping Trump try to overturn an election.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:15 pm Another day Another lie
No lie at all. It's the simple truth. You just can't handle it. You didn't mind Lindsey trying to strong-arm Georgia to overturn the Georgia vote.
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gounion wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:16 pm No lie at all. It's the simple truth. You just can't handle it. You didn't mind Lindsey trying to strong-arm Georgia to overturn the Georgia vote.
Well you are half right it is simple
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:59 pm There was no red wave because the democratic party through its surrogates spent 53 million getting those maga Republicans on the ballot.

Which proves all the end of the world and fascist talk was a lie put out by the democratic party. Knowing their base are low information dupes who believe anything they are told
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Bahhahahahahahahahah

No. There was no red wave because people are tired of the election denial and batshit crazy in your party. You know, the guys you vote for. You want to look at low information? Go look in the mirror.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:31 pm Well you are half right it is simple
Simple corruption. But Lindsey has always been corrupt.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:15 pm Another day Another lie
No, that's not a lie. You constantly defend Trump and you vote for his team. Like Lindsey Graham, Ralph Norman, Tim Scott, etc. You're a MAGA extremist.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:08 pm Why would we be to cowardly to admit it?
You think we are trying to get a seat at the cool kids table?
Trump.is a crook who has committed multiple crimes. I have never voted for him and never will
I suppose you believe that liberal organizations didn't know he was shady when they were honoring him at banquets
Oh so now he's a criminal? You've been defending Trump for years, when WE ALL TOLD YOU HE WAS A CRIMINAL. You said, over and over again that he should be left alone.

You're only against him now because you've jumped on the Ron Desantis Train.

And yes, you are a coward. You vote for people who support him. Who STILL support him. Then you come around here trying to claim your objective and non partisan. It's hilarious.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:08 pm I have never voted for him and never will
Name one policy of Donald Trump's that differs from DeSantis or Norman.

Just one.

Two bonus points if you can name three.
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Drak wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:41 pm You're only against him now because you've jumped on the Ron Desantis Train.
He still cannot even tell that there's no difference between these two peoples' politics.

Or that of Ralph Norman, MGT, Marsha Blackburn, Paul Gosar, or the rest of those white supremacists.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:41 am I don’t give two shits about Hunter Biden. However
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