Easy to say when it’s not your communities that are constantly targeted.
Defending white supremacists only encourages them.
They are lethal - just ask Mike Pence.
Easy to say when it’s not your communities that are constantly targeted.
So no reason to attack people that are your allies when they disagree with how far to go. For me, I won't become what I behold with the right. I will NOT stoop to their level. So cuss at me all you want. I have my ethics and principles that I adhere to.carmenjonze wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:25 pm Easy to say when it’s not your communities that are constantly targeted.
Defending white supremacists only encourages them.
They are lethal - just ask Mike Pence.
You haven’t been attacked, you’ve been asked what the point is to defending a white supremacist.
I haven’t cussed at you at all.For me, I won't become what I behold with the right. I will NOT stoop to their level. So cuss at me all you want. I have my ethics and principles that I adhere to.
And I'll make my own decisions, too. I won't be swayed by crap like this thread that's just lashing out in pain.carmenjonze wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:34 pm You haven’t been attacked, you’ve been asked what the point is to defending a white supremacist.
I determine who my allies are.
I haven’t cussed at you at all.
I’ve asked you what is the point if defending a white supremacist.
White supremacists are no one’s allies. They’re not even so-called white people’s allies. It’s why this guy gives you the n-lover treatment.
What has given you the idea anyone is trying to sway you with this thread?
Don’t confuse disagreement with defending a known white supremacist with rejection.So, go ahead and judge and reject me as an allie of the LGBTQ+ community. It won't change my mind or my actions.
You're making demands of everyone. You DEMAND that I agree with you and accuse me of all kinds of bullshit. I'm not buying it. So keep braying all you want, I'm tuning you out on this.carmenjonze wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:42 pm What has given you the idea anyone is trying to sway you with this thread?
As I said, I determine who my allies are.
A reminder: civil rights has never been gained by accommodating or capitulating to white-conservative violence. Never.
Don’t confuse disagreement with defending a known white supremacist with rejection.
They’re not the same thing, not even close.
Those same people also support LBGT and Trans laws. Just not all or every lawcarmenjonze wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:45 pm Hi Plunderer, nice to see ya.
At this point, it is not a broad brush.
You have people, including on this board, who fervently support the GOP/RNC's extremist anti-LGBTQ laws and boast/gloat about voting for the extremist politicians that implement them.
This not an abstraction for LGBTQ people who are subject to these laws, and whose basic rights such as marriage, inheritance, adoption, employment, housing, etc., are constantly in jeapordy because of these people. They are not abstractions for the people who actually know us, our family members, our peers, and friends.
The actual "broad brush" here is blanket, legalized discrimination laws against entire groups of people. Conservatives are actively trying to re-instate broad-brush discrimination as we speak, and are carrying out the legendary vigialantism, domestic terrorism, and mass-murder to back it up.
agree with me about what? I've made no such demands, nor do I need agreement about mass murder against my various peoples, from anyone.
you haven't been accused of anything. You've been asked why you're defensive of a known white supremacist.and accuse me of all kinds of bullshit.
Tune me out or don't. I don't need anyone's permission to respond to mass-murder by yet another violent colonizer.I'm not buying it. So keep braying all you want, I'm tuning you out on this.
If you're speaking about yourself, just say so.
Your trashy party is the one making the laws. That's because you can't govern, and conflate governing with ruling uber Alles.Just not all or every law
The Colorado shooter’s dad: “I praised him for violent behavior really early. I told him it works... You’ll get immediate results.”
He then went on to praise the Colorado shooter’s grandpa, a MAGA Republican politician named Randy Voepel who supported the January 6 insurrection.
This guy seems so straight out of casting that I thought maybe it was a put on. But it reminds me of Lindsay Graham's comment about if you can be not white but you better be a con or HE and his party will target you for elimination.The Colorado shooter’s dad on finding out his son murdered people: “They started telling me about the incident, a shooting... And then I go on to find out it’s a gay bar. I got scared, ‘Shit, is he gay?’ And he’s not gay, so I said, phew… I am a conservative Republican.”
Ohh but this person is NONBINARY, tho!!Libertas wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:30 pm https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status ... _V0HJcBApQ
I wont comment on who I think is responsible for this shit...grrrr
This guy seems so straight out of casting that I thought maybe it was a put on. But it reminds me of Lindsay Graham's comment about if you can be not white but you better be a con or HE and his party will target you for elimination.
You are the one who claims that people like you have to protect yourselves against conservatives everytime one of these shootings occur. Does your hypocrisy know no boundscarmenjonze wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:49 pm Ohh but this person is NONBINARY, tho!!
See, according to these fascists like Dana Loesch and Matt Walsh and Glennfs, that's supposed to make some kind of difference in them committing a mass-murder hate crime in a queer bar!
One of your problems is that you've never been among a targeted minority and you don't know how it feels. So, you pretend to be discriminated against and play the victim.
No I was pointing out the stupidity of what was said and has been said here so many times.
And doing so by making and believing statements like
No, I haven't said that, and I've said I disagree with it. But you don't fucking care, do you? You're doing the same broad brush as you're accusing our side of doing.Glennfs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:23 am And doing so by making and believing statements like
ANY vote for ANY gop makes you an accomplice to Colorado shooting.
That is what you are defending here so using your standard of you defend it you believe it.
So according to you I am an accomplice in the Colorado shooting which was done by a non-binary person.
I guess I am lucky you don't have the authority to send me to a reeducation camp.
Think about that, because I vote for Republicans I am now an accomplice to murder. That is what you are defending and that is what you haven't said a word against.
I missed where you said that and stand corrected.
I have principles I stand on. You should try it some time.
You are doing the same thing that you are complaining about. I guess it's okay when YOU do it, right?However there are people here and more than one who do believe that. Personally I find a belief such as that as being no different than belief in any of the stereotypes we grew up hearing about various groups.
I am not aware of any stereotype I believe in.
Again that was a silly little joke told 1000s of times climb down off the cross