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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:24 pm Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't there been a democrat in office the last two times Russia has attacked Ukraine
Yes, if your man Trump had still been in office, he would have helped Russia with USA troops to attack Ukraine.

I wonder what US intel he gave Putin in order to aid him in has attack of Ukraine. After all, when Putin invaded, he called him a "genius".

Let's be clear: You are the party of Putin, not us.
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Well, well, well.

The timing here suggests that Putin invaded Ukraine precisely because TFG got voted out in a free and fair election, and his replacement was less inclined to help Vlad the Impaler divide up Eastern Europe over lunch.

All conjecture, of course, but it is most interesting how fast it changed and when it happened.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:56 am No the Biden crime family has nothing to do with Santos.
However you do make an interesting point and everytime going forward you say B-b-b-b-ut what about Santos we will know you are a hypocrite
Lol "Biden Crime Family." This guy just can't think for himself. Constantly parroting RW talking points and memes.

Notice how all Glenn does is parrot Donald Trumpisms? Like constantly? Yah, sure this guy didn't vote for Trump. LOL. What a laughing stock.

Let's add up all the Trumpisms both Glennfs and Joe Memphis use around here.

"Biden Crime Family"

"Fake News"

"Pocahontas"

"Witch Hunt"

"TDS"

"Wokeism"

"Bidenflation"

Let me know if I've forgotten anything.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:12 pm Unlike you I do not vote straight party line. I personally do not like where the republican party is currently. Bur, the Sophie's Choice being them or the far left radical socialist agenda of those who run the democratic party leaves little choice.

However I will not be voting for Ralph Norman in the next election. So name me a democratic Congressman you would oppose, or senator, or governor, or dog catcher.

You are the one who wants one party rule and a one party government. Not me.
You're a fucking liar. No one here believes you don't for straight up GOP. You just play that same game the sock accounts pretending to be dems play.

Yah Sophie's Choice. Nah, you'd just rather vote for extremist seditionists.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:23 pm

However it is my belief that your extreme leftvwing beliefs would unitentionally not only destroy our economy it would also make the world unsafe and lead to an end to our union.
No one here is extreme left.

world unsafe and lead to an end to our union.
And yet, you vote for and openly support traitors and seditionists and people totally beholden to America's enemies, like Russia, Saudi Arabia and NoKo. And your party is the party that destroys the economy. Every single time they are in power.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:12 pm Unlike you I do not vote straight party line. I personally do not like where the republican party is currently. Bur, the Sophie's Choice being them or the far left radical socialist agenda of those who run the democratic party leaves little choice.

However I will not be voting for Ralph Norman in the next election. So name me a democratic Congressman you would oppose, or senator, or governor, or dog catcher.

You are the one who wants one party rule and a one party government. Not me.
I wouldn't vote for John Edwards. Wouldn't vote for William Jefferson. Wouldn't vote for Edwin Edwards.

Hell, I wouldn't vote for Bernie Sanders.

I also wouldn't vote for anyone that voted to ban a woman's right to choose. I wouldn't vote for anyone that would vote to take away LGBTQ+ rights.

I also never would vote for anyone who tried to stage a coup to overthrow our government.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:24 pm Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't there been a democrat in office the last two times Russia has attacked Ukraine
If you actually followed politics and foreign policy instead of what you read from cousin Skeeter on Facebook, you would see that Trump set the stage for Ukraine to be invaded.

When Trump came into power, the Republican party ditched being pro Ukraine. Trump's campaign advisor, Paul Manafort, worked for the Kremlin and his job was to help install pro Kremlin leaders in Ukraine.

Trump constantly attacked NATO and America's allies. Trump attempted to weaken and dismantle NATO. Trump pulled Troops out of Europe on Russia's doorstep on his way out the door as a last ditch effort. Trump was slobbering at the mouth calling Putin a military genius when he began his invasion last Feb. If Trump was granted a second Term, Putin would have attacked Ukraine and there would have been no NATO unification. There would be no help from America and most likely no help from Western allies. And Russia would be pounding at the doors of Europe because he wants to recreate the Soviet Union, with the help of your party.


Buying into the lie that Ukraine wouldn't have been invaded if Trump was president, is a stupid lie, that you evidently believe.

Trump is on record, countless times, praising Putin over America's allies. Which he still continues to do. Trump sided with Putin over American and Western IC in Helsinki.

You just cannot deal with reality because it breaks your brain.
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You missed my whole point.

Putin attacked Ukraine BECAUSE a Democrat was in office.

He could no longer count on being able to make a deal with the President of the United States to stay out of his fomenting revolution and instability there in return for a cut of the action. He had to resort to war.

Yes, and there are whole books written on just how the Republican neocons jumped on 9/11 to invade the only country over there that had nothing to do with Bin Laden. Oh, and IIRC it was a Democrat who sent in the Navy SEALs to finally get him, after the Republican tfg had let him escape in Afghanistan.

Republicans deal in lies, damnable lies, and fake history.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:23 pm

However it is my belief that your extreme leftvwing beliefs would unitentionally not only destroy our economy it would also make the world unsafe and lead to an end to our union.
No one here cares about your radicalized extreme MAGA beliefs that are not grounded in reality. You have no influence over anyone here.
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gounion wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:01 pm I wouldn't vote for John Edwards. Wouldn't vote for William Jefferson. Wouldn't vote for Edwin Edwards.

Hell, I wouldn't vote for Bernie Sanders.

I also wouldn't vote for anyone that voted to ban a woman's right to choose. I wouldn't vote for anyone that would vote to take away LGBTQ+ rights.

I also never would vote for anyone who tried to stage a coup to overthrow our government.
Most of the posters here, that I've seen, have been critical of Bernie Sanders and the Justice Dems. But Bernie Sanders, who isn't even a Dem, is all Glennfs has. Which is why he placed him in his sig, thinking he was childishly owning the libs who post here.

Human rights issues and attempted coups should invalidate anyone's idea about voting for the GOP. But here we are, with at least two conservative posters who ignore it and willingly voted for a clown show. Because there is no bottom.
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The world is already pretty unsafe. Or have you missed Putin's latest veiled threat to push The Button and end life on Earth if he doesn't get his way in Ukraine?

Poor Bernie Sanders. He's an old guy who caucuses with the Democratic Party and like many his age, he predates the Republican mutation of the word Socialism into a nasty conspiracy to turn the whole world into some weird made-up dystopian vision of a Stalinist labor camp.

Amazing how much time gets wasted arguing over bogus language foisted upon us by the Republican noise machine.
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ZoWie wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:28 pm The world is already pretty unsafe. Or have you missed Putin's latest veiled threat to push The Button and end life on Earth if he doesn't get his way in Ukraine?

Poor Bernie Sanders. He's an old guy who caucuses with the Democratic Party and like many his age, he predates the Republican mutation of the word Socialism into a nasty conspiracy to turn the whole world into some weird vision of a Stalinist labor camp.

Amazing how much time gets wasted arguing over bogus language foisted upon us by the Republican noise machine.
My biggest problem with Bernie is that he's only a Dem of convenience when running for President. He does nothing to help the liberal movement.
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Mostly Bernie does nothing at all, meaning that he's at the worst harmless and at the best one of the few who actually speaks out on issues.
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What a shocker. Santos, or whatever his name is, since he goes by many like a typical con man, has ties to Russian Oligarchs.

https://people.com/politics/george-sant ... -oligarch/
Santos has said the more-than $700,000 in funds he lent to his campaign came from his company, the Devolder Organization, which The Washington Post reports was organized just one month before the Republican declared his candidacy in 2021.

Embattled Rep. George Santos Reportedly Called a Liar on House Floor During Rough First Day in Congress
This week, the Post reported on other campaign donations, these from Andrew Intrater, the cousin of sanctioned Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg, who has close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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Frankly, I'd tend to see Putin as more of the problem than poor old Bernie, who is harmless at his worst, and actually a good voice for responsible government at his best.

For a start, there is ample evidence that the Republican leadership considers Putin to be an asset, especially financially but also with regard to data analytics of American voting behavior.

Right now it's hard for me not to think Santos is a window into a global meeting of the minds that is probably the biggest real threat to our democracy (such as it is).
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:24 pm Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't there been a democrat in office the last two times Russia has attacked Ukraine


And what 500 pound POS looked the other way when Putin offered bounties to the Taliban for killing American troops? Your god FORMER PRESIDENT 666!
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The GOP is the Putin party. They want to cut off all aid to the Ukraine. And Glenn and the others are silent about that.
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gounion wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:46 am The GOP is the Putin party. They want to cut off all aid to the Ukraine. And Glenn and the others are silent about that.
Glad to see you admit that the democratic party was the party of communist Venezuela back when they chose to support Venezuela over Reagan
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bengal59 wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:43 pm And what 500 pound POS looked the other way when Putin offered bounties to the Taliban for killing American troops? Your god FORMER PRESIDENT 666!
I take that as a yes
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:51 am I take that as a yes
So you're saying that if Trump were President, Russia would never have invaded the Ukraine?
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gounion wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:53 am So you're saying that if Trump were President, Russia would never have invaded the Ukraine?
To quote you we will never know. However we do know the last two times it happened democrats were in office.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:56 am To quote you we will never know. However we do know the last two times it happened democrats were in office.
What bullshit. it's what you are saying. Donald Trump would have kept Putin out of the Ukraine.

And if it's Trump vs. Biden in 2024, you'll spend all your time attacking Biden.

It's likely Trump shared intel on Ukraine with Putin, that gave Putin all the more reason to invade Ukraine. If Trump had been in office, he would have offered US troops to aid Russia in it's invasion.

Trump is the one that tried to pull military aid to Ukraine.
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gounion wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:59 am What bullshit. it's what you are saying. Donald Trump would have kept Putin out of the Ukraine.

And if it's Trump vs. Biden in 2024, you'll spend all your time attacking Biden.

It's likely Trump shared intel on Ukraine with Putin, that gave Putin all the more reason to invade Ukraine. If Trump had been in office, he would have offered US troops to aid Russia in it's invasion.

Trump is the one that tried to pull military aid to Ukraine.
No I am saying that it is a fact the last two times Russia attacked Ukraine there was a democrat in office.
Remember the line Obama said not to cross.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:00 pm No I am saying that it is a fact the last two times Russia attacked Ukraine there was a democrat in office.
Remember the line Obama said not to cross.
So Trump Trump Trump!!!!

Lord knows Bush II kept us safe on 9/11, didn't he?
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:56 am To quote you we will never know. However we do know the last two times it happened democrats were in office.
Again, this is utter bullshit. You claim you never voted for Trump but all you ever do is repeat the things Trump says. This is right out of Trump's mouth.

Trump claims Ukraine wouldn't have been invaded if he were president. That's utter bullshit. Russia was pushing a military set up onto the borders of Ukraine before the 2020 election. Donald Trump's entire foreign policy was based on Putin's desires. Trump constantly attacked NATO and American allies. He wanted NATO dismantled. The person that benefits from that, is Putin. He pulled troops out of Germany on his way out the door. He constantly praised Putin and still does. He called Putin a military genius when Putin began his invasion. If Trump was in office still, Putin would have invaded Ukraine with no help from the USA and NATO would be in a shambles.

Do you actually follow what's going on? Because either you don't, or you're lying.
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