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gounion wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:13 am First, you tell us what consequences Trump should face. You won't because of your support for him.
For the 6th time he should be charged with whatever crime is related to not cooperating with the investigation.
Instead of playing this game why don't you just admit you do not have the balls to say what you believe should happen to Biden fir mishandling government secrets.
But, for the 6th time what do you think should happen to Biden fir mishandling government documents.
The 6th time
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:47 am For the 6th time he should be charged with whatever crime is related to not cooperating with the investigation.
Instead of playing this game why don't you just admit you do not have the balls to say what you believe should happen to Biden fir mishandling government secrets.
But, for the 6th time what do you think should happen to Biden fir mishandling government documents.
The 6th time
Well I’m just going to say what you are saying. It should be investigated. That’s ALL you’re saying for Trump.

What should happen to Trump? Should he be in jail for Obstruction of Justice?

Don’t demand of me what YOU won’t answer.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:10 am Well I’m just going to say what you are saying. It should be investigated. That’s ALL you’re saying for Trump.

What should happen to Trump? Should he be in jail for Obstruction of Justice?

Don’t demand of me what YOU won’t answer.

For the 7th time DONALD TRUMP SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH WHATEVER CRIME IS RELATED TO NOT COOPERATING WITH AUTHORITIES.
Now I ve answered you 7 fucking times and 6 fucking times you have showed that you do not have the balls to answer a question as simple as what should happen to Joe Biden for mishandling documents.

So fir the 7th time what do you think should happen to Biden for mishandling government secrets
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:22 am For the 7th time DONALD TRUMP SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH WHATEVER CRIME IS RELATED TO NIT COOPERATING WITH AUTHORITIES.
Now I ve answered you 7 fucking times and 6 fucking times you have showed that you do not have the balls to answer a question as simple as what should happen to Joe Biden for mishandling documents.

So fir the 7th time what do you think should happen to Biden for mishandling government secrets
Okay, here’s your answer, Glenn. Biden should be investigated, and the DOJ should decide if he should be charged with a crime.

That’s how far YOU will go, that’s how far I will go.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:23 am Okay, here’s your answer, Glenn. Biden should be investigated, and the DOJ should decide if he should be charged with a crime.

That’s how far YOU will go, that’s how far I will go.
You should never ask anyone on this board a question again. Because you do not have the balls to answer any question.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:25 am You should never ask anyone on this board a question again. Because you do not have the balls to answer any question.
I answered your question, just like you did. It should be investigated and the DOJ can decided on what action to take.

You don’t have the balls to say what should happen to Trump, and it’s because we both know what your answer is.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:29 am I answered your question, just like you did. It should be investigated and the DOJ can decided on what action to take.

You don’t have the balls to say what should happen to Trump, and it’s because we both know what your answer is.

Charged with a crime is what I said .
You basically said you have no balls
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:32 am Charged with a crime is what I said .
You basically said you have no balls
And I say Biden should be investigated and let the DOJ decide what to do.

How is that different than what you said?
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gounion wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:34 am And I say Biden should be investigated and let the DOJ decide what to do.

How is that different than what you said?
All you are doing is a total cop out.
We all know that both Biden and Trump have mishandled government documents.
We also know that because he refused to cooperate what Trump did is far worse.
We also know that Biden will never be charged with a crime .
So you want Trump to go to prison and for Biden to receive the Medal of Freedom.
Because you are 100pct partisan and have 0pct objectivity.
To the point that you believe that even considering Biden receive a reprimand would be the equivalent of supporting a republican.
You are the quintessential low information voter. Because regardless of any facts you are only going to vote for the democratic party candidate.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:42 am All you are doing is a total cop out.
We all know that both Biden and Trump have mishandled government documents.
We also know that because he refused to cooperate what Trump did is far worse.
We also know that Biden will never be charged with a crime .
So you want Trump to go to prison and for Biden to receive the Medal of Freedom.
Because you are 100pct partisan and have 0pct objectivity.
To the point that you believe that even considering Biden receive a reprimand would be the equivalent of supporting a republican.
You are the quintessential low information voter. Because regardless of any facts you are only going to vote for the democratic party candidate.
As always, a false equivalency. These are not the same.

When the Biden docs were uncovered, they contacted the Archives the same day. Kinda like turning in the drive-in speaker when you accidentally left it in the car and tore it off as you left.

Trump bragged to the press about having kept all kinds of secret docs that he should have turned over. Then he obstructed justice.

And you can’t even admit that.

And you won’t say what should happen to Trump. Should he go to jail? Yes or no?

You always defend Trump. We all see you doing it.
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Bad publicity blows every transgression up into an equal amount of mediagenic appeals to outrage, but that situation does not mean that we have to believe the hype. Leave that to the tabs and the people who half-believe the stuff in them. We can't even get a straight answer on whether Harry really bragged about killing 28 Taliban.

My issue with all this remains that, in view of drumpf's complete disregard of the law, the only way the Democratic Party could avoid catching a stray was if it made sure its own house was squeaky clean, down to the last piece of paper. They should have understood that any tiny oversight would get blown up just as big as drumpf's hoard of stuff he could market to his buddies in Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, or North Korea.

Really standard operating procedure in the LA media zoo.

They didn't.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:47 am As always, a false equivalency. These are not the same.

When the Biden docs were uncovered, they contacted the Archives the same day. Kinda like turning in the drive-in speaker when you accidentally left it in the car and tore it off as you left.

Trump bragged to the press about having kept all kinds of secret docs that he should have turned over. Then he obstructed justice.

And you can’t even admit that.

And you won’t say what should happen to Trump. Should he go to jail? Yes or no?

You always defend Trump. We all see you doing it.

Saying Trump should be charged with a crime and Biden should receive a reprimand is not defending Trump.
Nor is it saying both what they both did is equal or the same.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:54 am Saying Trump should be charged with a crime and Biden should receive a reprimand is not defending Trump.
Nor is it saying both what they both did is equal or the same.
Saying Biden should be reprimanded is the end of the issue.

Saying Trump should be charged isn’t the end, just the beginning.

What should be the end for Trump? Acquittal? Reprimand? Jail?

Run away little boy.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:25 am You should never ask anyone on this board a question again. Because you do not have the balls to answer any question.
Oh God, the irony of the above statement.
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Classified documents found in Pence's home.


A lawyer for former Vice President Mike Pence discovered about a dozen documents marked as classified at Pence’s Indiana home last week, and he has turned those classified records over to the FBI, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

The FBI and the Justice Department’s National Security Division have launched a review of the documents and how they ended up in Pence’s house in Indiana.

The classified documents were discovered at Pence’s new home in Carmel, Indiana, by a lawyer for Pence in the wake of the revelations about classified material discovered in President Joe Biden’s private office and residence, the sources said. The discovery comes after Pence has repeatedly said he did not have any classified documents in his possession.

A lawyer for Pence told CNN that the FBI requested to pick up the documents with classified markings that evening, and Pence agreed. Agents from the FBI’s field office in Indianapolis picked up the documents from Pence’s home, the lawyer said.

On Monday, Pence’s legal team drove the boxes back to Washington, DC, and handed them over to the Archives to review the rest of the material for compliance with the Presidential Records Act.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/24/politics ... index.html
As I've said in the past concerning TFG and Biden an investigation should be conducted and if there is a violation of the law they should be treated like anyone else would. IMO, the most anything will happen to them is a fine for mishandling/safeguarding classified documents.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:13 am Obstruction of Justice isn't nebulous.
Not obstruction if they possessed the documents legally.
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Bludogdem wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:29 am Not obstruction if they possessed the documents legally.
He didn't possess the docs legally. You keep listening to Trump. Trump is also saying he won Georgia by a lot.

If he legally possessed them, they wouldn't have gave him a subpoena.
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Bludogdem wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:29 am Not obstruction if they possessed the documents legally.
False. The docs belong to the national archives and Trump lied and refused to hand them over, which ended up requiring a warrant. Once again, you have NO clue what you’re talking about. But keep defending Trump.

Trump claimed he didn’t have the docs, the said they were planted by the deep state, then said he declassified them with his mind, then said they were planted again, then said everyone does it. Use your fucking brain.
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Drak wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:35 am False. The docs belong to the national archives and Trump lied and refused to hand them over, which ended up requiring a warrant. Once again, you have NO clue what you’re talking about. But keep defending Trump.

Trump claimed he didn’t have the docs, the said they were planted by the deep state, then said he declassified them with his mind, then said they were planted again, then said everyone does it. Use your fucking brain.
It's astonishing what greengrass, Joe and Glenn will believe from Trump. They buy every lie.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:38 am It's astonishing what greengrass, Joe and Glenn will believe from Trump. They buy every lie.
It’s hilarious they claim they’re not Trumpers when they constantly parrot his words, his lies, and always defend him. Not sure why they’re so cowardly about it.
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Drak wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:35 am False. The docs belong to the national archives and Trump lied and refused to hand them over, which ended up requiring a warrant. Once again, you have NO clue what you’re talking about. But keep defending Trump.

Trump claimed he didn’t have the docs, the said they were planted by the deep state, then said he declassified them with his mind, then said they were planted again, then said everyone does it. Use your fucking brain.
Show us the law.

Remember that the documents in all cases were taken while the individual was in office.
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Bludogdem wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:55 am Show us the law.

Remember that the documents in all cases were taken while the individual was in office.
Bullshit. He could not take them with him. That's why the court issued a subpoena.

Which of Trump's excuses is the real one? Or do you believe all of them?
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Pence also has classified documents found in his home.

Story just broke.
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Bludogdem wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:55 am Show us the law.

Remember that the documents in all cases were taken while the individual was in office.
What law? Obstruction of Justice? Yah that's a thing.

It doesn't matter if he took them while in office. He obstructed justice when asked to return them. That's a law. They do not belong to him. And that's what we're dealing with, which is why these cases are apples and oranges. For a guy who claims he knows everything, you don't know jack shit.

Then there's the bit about what the documents are.
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Ted wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:06 pm Pence also has classified documents found in his home.

Story just broke.
Like I said. This is probably a common thing. When aides pack up etc. I bet most of these guys have classified docs from when they were in office. Even though they shouldn't.

The difference is Trump attempted to steal them and obstruct the law when they finally came for the ones he had.
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