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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:19 pm Or one that would make a deal letting them in for letting him start a hotel chain in China.

One that could be bought. One that didn't care about the United States.

One that sent love letters to despots.

One thing, Biden standing up to Russia and bringing NATO together has decreased the chances. Biden has been masterful in handling Putin against the Ukraine. They now know that the USA will stand up to them if they try it.
Let's not forget who was president when Putin invaded or was in office the last time he caused problems in Ukraine
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:10 pm Let's not forget who was president when Putin invaded or was in office the last time he caused problems in Ukraine
So? Let's also remember who was President on 9/11, Fuckface. Or who was President in the 2008 financial meltdown.

And who was the President that told Saddam he could go ahead and invade Kuwait.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:16 pm So? Let's also remember who was President on 9/11, Fuckface. Or who was President in the 2008 financial meltdown.

And who was the President that told Saddam he could go ahead and invade Kuwait.
What does that have to do with this thread or your comments on the Ukraine.

Fuckface really I can't wait to see the comments from people here who call me immature for the occasional name thrown at a political figure
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:17 pm What does that have to do with this thread or your comments on the Ukraine
Same as your insinuations about who was President when Putin invaded Ukraine. You're attacking Biden's leadership.

While you never attack Trump's leadership, even when he's championing Putin over America.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:10 pm Let's not forget who was president when Putin invaded or was in office the last time he caused problems in Ukraine

These are the words directly out of Trump's childish mouth. This is what he says, all the time.

Do you think Putin wouldn't have invaded if Trump won again? Throughout 2020, when Trump was President, Putin was amassing an army along the Ukraine border. This invasion was already set and planned. Only if Trump won again, it would have been a lot easier for Russia, with a weak NATO and Trump pulling Troops out of Europe on the way out the door. Not sure why you comment when you don't have a clue what's going on.
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Drak wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:20 pm These are the words directly out of Trump's childish mouth. This is what he says, all the time.

Do you think Putin wouldn't have invaded if Trump won again? Throughout 2020, when Trump was President, Putin was amassing an army along the Ukraine border. This invasion was already set and planned. Only if Trump won again, it would have been a lot easier for Russia, with a weak NATO and Trump pulling Troops out of Europe on the way out the door. Not sure why you comment when you don't have a clue what's going on.
Trump would have sided with Putin, and we'd have American troops and tanks and planes helping them pacify The Ukraine.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:21 pm Trump would have sided with Putin, and we'd have American troops and tanks and planes helping them pacify The Ukraine.
Link please
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:22 pmLink please
Link to what? What are you asking links for? That Trump is a Putin asset? You've been provided with many links including words directly from Trump's mouth, including from today. No one needs to provide you with anything.

It was all set up and planned with Trump. Which is why Trump pulled Troops out of Europe on his way out the door, and why Trump wanted to dismantle NATO, and why nothing was done about the army Putin was amassing on the Ukraine border throughout 2020.

And as soon as Putin attacked Trump went on TV calling Putin a military genius. Most of us follow what's going on.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:22 pmLink please
Easy-peasey: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/2 ... n-00010923
Trump calls Putin 'genius' and 'savvy' for Ukraine invasion
The former president's praise for Putin comes at a perilous geopolitical moment in Europe.
Trump calls Putin’s strategy ‘genius’


By Joseph Gedeon

Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday described Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as “genius” and “savvy,” praising his onetime counterpart for a move that has spurred sanctions and universal condemnation from the U.S. government and its trans-Atlantic allies.

“I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.” “He used the word ‘independent’ and ‘we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that’s pretty savvy.”

Trump’s praise for the Russian president comes at a perilous geopolitical moment in Europe, where the Kremlin has amassed thousands of troops along the Ukrainian border. Already, Russian troops have invaded breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine that the Kremlin recognized as autonomous earlier this week. That recognition, as well as the subsequent invasion by Russian forces, prompted the U.S. and its allies in Europe to impose what President Joe Biden called “the first tranche” of sanctions against Moscow.

The comments from Trump also fit into a personal pattern of relatively warm rhetoric for Putin, especially compared to the abrasive approach that the former U.S. president employed in dealings with NATO and other U.S. allies. Trump repeatedly refused to accept the conclusion of the U.S. intelligence community that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election, at one point telling reporters at a joint press conference with Putin that he had accepted the Russian president’s assurance that the Kremlin had not been involved.
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Number6 wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:17 am The U.S. and European weapons being shipped to Ukraine is more of our involvement in a proxy war. That is, we supply the weapons and someone else does the fighting. We did this in Afghanistan when the Russians tried to control it and the Russians did it when we were in Vietnam. I don't think the Chechen forces who were fighting in Ukraine as Russian proxies before the Russian invasion will be in a position to acquire these weapons.

You mentioned "There is a big dark spot of movement taking place that could fit many a build up or conflict or terrorism." Will you be more specific as to whom or what you're talking about.
Well when ever there is military action or wars first there is movement of weapons people planes ships ect., putting things in place before it happens, having Ukraine as a place where massive proliferations of weapons is happening all the time with little oversight could obscure from our view that some other buildup or war or terrorism is being supplied or coming from the same batch of weapons.
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gounion wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:29 pm Easy-peasey: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/2 ... n-00010923
So, c'mon, Glenn - you demanded the link. What do you say now about Trump?
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gounion wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:15 am So, c'mon, Glenn - you demanded the link. What do you say now about Trump?
Where in that article does it say that Trump would have helped Putin.
I fully agree had it happened under Trump our response would not have been as good as it has been under Biden.
However that does not change the fact that the last two times Putin caused trouble in the Ukraine it was during democratic administrations
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:16 am Where in that article does it say that Trump would have helped Putin.
I fully agree had it happened under Trump our response would not have been as good as it has been under Biden.
However that does not change the fact that the last two times Putin caused trouble in the Ukraine it was during democratic administrations
Trump said that Putin was a genius and savvy. He also said elsewhere he trusted Putin’s word over our intel community’s word.

And of course Putin didn’t cause any trouble under Trump. He was giving him everything he wanted.

And if it were Trump, and he supported Putin, you’d be cheering him on.
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gounion wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:18 am Trump said that Putin was a genius and savvy. He also said elsewhere he trusted Putin’s word over our intel community’s word.

And of course Putin didn’t cause any trouble under Trump. He was giving him everything he wanted.

And if it were Trump, and he supported Putin, you’d be cheering him on.
Wrong again what would you be saying if Trump was denying Ukraine fighter jets
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All Trump does is praise Putin and claim he’s with him, not America’s allies. And he’s constantly trashed American and Western intel over Putin. The fact is, Trump has been pushing Russian foreign policy ever since he visited there in the late 80s. This stuff has been posted over and over again. Asking for links on these topics when it’s been discussed countless times in here, is trolling and stupid.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:20 am Wrong again what would you be saying if Trump was denying Ukraine fighter jets
Trump wouldn’t supply Ukraine with jack shit. Biden and the allies have been delivering tons of weapons and defense systems to Ukraine. Ukraine is not trained to fly the F16, but I think they will be.
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Drak wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:22 am All Trump does is praise Putin and claim he’s with him, not America’s allies. And he’s constantly trashed American and Western intel over Putin. The fact is, Trump has been pushing Russian foreign policy ever since he visited there in the late 80s. This stuff has been posted over and over again. Asking for links on these topics when it’s been discussed countless times in here, is trolling and stupid.
Yes we agree Trump us an asshole and we are far better off he isn't in charge of this situation.
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That doesn't change the fact that it happened under Obama and it happened under Biden
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:26 am Yes we agree Trump us an asshole and we are far better off he isn't in charge of this situation.
But
That doesn't change the fact that it happened under Obama and it happened under Biden
The attack was already planned. Russia invading has NOTHING to do with Biden. That’s all on Russia. This type of thinking is childish and proves you don’t follow world events. You are parroting Trump’s words. And no, Trump is more than just an asshole.

Obama was a great president but his administration should have been tougher on Russia. But that’s in hindsight.


Your boy Trump, he made things a lot worse. He weakened NATO and pulled troops out of Europe on his way out the door. And he pushed the green light for NOKo to amp up their nuke production.
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Drak wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:32 am The attack was already planned. Russia invading has NOTHING to do with Biden. That’s all on Russia. This type of thinking is childish and proves you don’t follow world events. You are parroting Trump’s words. And no, Trump is more than just an asshole.

Obama was a great president but his administration should have been tougher on Russia. But that’s in hindsight.


Your boy Trump, he made things a lot worse. He weakened NATO and pulled troops out of Europe on his way out the door. And he pushed the green light for NOKo to amp up their nuke production.
So it's Trump's fault Putin invaded Ukraine while Biden was President.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:39 am So it's Trump's fault Putin invaded Ukraine while Biden was President.
JFC, talking to you is pointless. I'm done.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:26 am Yes we agree Trump us an asshole and we are far better off he isn't in charge of this situation.
But
That doesn't change the fact that it happened under Obama and it happened under Biden
Then why do you forget about 9/11 happening under Bush? Or that Bush the First told Saddam he could invade Kuwait?

This happened because of Trump, not Biden. Let’s be clear, we KNOW that Trump gave Biden’s people classified intel. Did he give them Ukrainian Intel that Putin was able to use?

Admit it, your don’t care about Ukraine at all, you don’t see why we should do anything, let Putin have it, right?
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Oh look, Trump "retruths" a post going after Ron DeSantis for being Pro Ukraine.

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Trump shares a post attacking DeSantis because he "supports Ukraine"
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1620839262341181441

These words are that Glenn repeats.

Russia started this war. RUSSIA. And Trump helped set it all up. He worked Putin's foreign policy and even handed American Military bases over to Putin.
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Drak wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:55 am Russia started this war. RUSSIA. And Trump helped set it all up. He worked Putin's foreign policy and even handed American Military bases over to Putin.
True dat. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syri ... SKBN1XP0XN

Russia lands forces at former U.S. air base in northern Syria
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provocation tension arms proliferation

N. Korea warns of 'overwhelming nuclear force' to counter US
.....The statement by Pyongyang’s Foreign Ministry came in response to comments by U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, who said Tuesday in Seoul that the United States would increase its deployment of advanced military assets to the Korean Peninsula, including fighter jets and aircraft carriers, as it strengthens joint training and operational planning with South Korea.....
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