GA Grand Jury

[Drak]

So a member of the grand jury in GA went around yapping about the GA grand jury yesterday all over the media, offering details into indictments. Although GA law is apparently more relaxed on this, she very well could have jeopardized the cases against Trump and co for 15 minutes of fame, and one wonders if this was purposeful sabotage. She was walking a fine line on what she was allowed to talk about and seemed to cross it a few times.

[Number6]

So a member of the grand jury in GA went around yapping about the GA grand jury yesterday all over the media, offering details into indictments. Although GA law is apparently more relaxed on this, she very well could have jeopardized the cases against Trump and co for 15 minutes of fame, and one wonders if this was purposeful sabotage. She was walking a fine line on what she was allowed to talk about and seemed to cross it a few times.

From what I'm hearing on the news about her comments is that it is unusual for a member of a grand jury to speak publicly but what she's said doesn't jeopardize and potential cases should there be indictments. The reason for this is she didn't give names or specifics about who might have committed perjury nor did she give information about what evidence was given.

IMO, she should have kept quite and if she had to say something it should have been generic about how the grand jury system works in Georgia. I have no doubt if indictments come down the defendants will claim she prejudiced the jury with her comments.

[Drak]

Good points. The only problem is now the right wing noise machine is using it, but they would do that anyway. Still would have been better if she kept her mouth shut instead of seeking 15 mins.

[Drak]

The problem with that idiot going on TV is it provides the criminals with fodder and delay tactics.

This should fail, because GA law allows for what she did and the grand jury she was a part of is finished and doesn't hand out indictments. But this is how Trump and his merry men of mobsters play.



Robert Costa
@costareports
News: CBS News has learned that lawyers close to several GOP witnesses in Fulton Co. investigation are preparing to move to quash any possible indictments by DA based on the public statements by the forewoman of the special grand jury, per two people familiar with the discussio

[Glennfs]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA17OGuh

And this is why we don't have county prosecutors investigating cases that are way to complex for their pay grade.

These people have made the point I've been making all along. Basically a county prosecutor is not qualified for this type of case.

So now Trump will probably not only skate on any Georgia charges but, will probably use the leaked Georgia information to claim his right to a fair trial in any case from any court has been compromised.

Good job democrats. But, on the bright side the county prosecutor who screwed the pooch will still wind up a celebrity among the left and still go to the bank or win higher office.

[gounion]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA17OGuh

And this is why we don't have county prosecutors investigating cases that are way to complex for their pay grade.

These people have made the point I've been making all along. Basically a county prosecutor is not qualified for this type of case.

So now Trump will probably not only skate on any Georgia charges but, will probably use the leaked Georgia information to claim his right to a fair trial in any case from any court has been compromised.

Good job democrats. But, on the bright side the county prosecutor who screwed the pooch will still wind up a celebrity among the left and still go to the bank or win higher office.

No, he won't skate because of her interviews. Only Trump and his supporters think that.

Oh, wait...

[Drak]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA17OGuh

And this is why we don't have county prosecutors investigating cases that are way to complex for their pay grade.

These people have made the point I've been making all along. Basically a county prosecutor is not qualified for this type of case.

So now Trump will probably not only skate on any Georgia charges but, will probably use the leaked Georgia information to claim his right to a fair trial in any case from any court has been compromised.

Good job democrats. But, on the bright side the county prosecutor who screwed the pooch will still wind up a celebrity among the left and still go to the bank or win higher office.

No, it's not.

This has NOTHING to do with the DA. GA state law allowed for this to happen. The person who went on TV is the one responsible here for possible headaches for the prosecution and issues, but the fact is there's really nothing here that we didn't already know. Or course they will try to skate. They would try that anyway. If they could skate on this, they could also skate on the media talking about it long before hand, or the knowledge there are grand juries empaneled. And this foreperson is NOT from an indictment jury. You have NO clue what you're talking about. And no, the DA didn't screw the pooch.

And this has nothing to do with Democrats. But keep crying.

[Glennfs]

No, he won't skate because of her interviews. Only Trump and his supporters think that.

Oh, wait...

Quite the typical openmined and indepth observation that you contribute.
I don't really have an argument to counter so I will simply say Trump.

[Glennfs]

No, it's not.

This has NOTHING to do with the DA. GA state law allowed for this to happen. The person who went on TV is the one responsible here for possible headaches for the prosecution and issues, but the fact is there's really nothing here that we didn't already know. Or course they will try to skate. They would try that anyway. If they could skate on this, they could also skate on the media talking about it long before hand, or the knowledge there are grand juries empaneled. And this foreperson is NOT from an indictment jury. You have NO clue what you're talking about. And no, the DA didn't screw the pooch.

And this has nothing to do with Democrats. But keep crying.

Look on the one side you have a county prosecutor. On the other side you have a team of multi million dollar lawyers.
I know you hate sports comparisons so I will go country. That is like bear hunting with a switch.
The people to get Trump on the election is the special prosecutor. The people to get Trump on state or local charges would be the New York prosecutors who deal with high profile criminals daily.
The people to screw it up is a tobacco road prosecutor in Georgia attempting to further their career.

[gounion]

Look on the one side you have a county prosecutor. On the other side you have a team of multi million dollar lawyers.
I know you hate sports comparisons so I will go country. That is like bear hunting with a switch.
The people to get Trump on the election is the special prosecutor. The people to get Trump on state or local charges would be the New York prosecutors who deal with high profile criminals daily.
The people to screw it up is a tobacco road prosecutor in Georgia attempting to further their career.

Wow, it's something that you're attacking southerners as hicks. If we did that you'd go into orbit.

Like say, that Nikki Haley shouldn't run for President because she's the former Governor of a hick state and too backwoods to handle real problems.

But whatever fits whatever issue of the moment for you. It's not like you actually have any principles to worry about. You just take any side and pretend that's always been your side.For the record, my problem with Haley is that she has NO principles. She's against Trump, then she's his biggest supporter, then she says he's went over the line and she's done with him, then she goes and tries to suck back up to him... She'd become a liberal if she thought it would get her elected.

[Glennfs]

Wow, it's something that you're attacking southerners as hicks. If we did that you'd go into orbit.

Like say, that Nikki Haley shouldn't run for President because she's the former Governor of a hick state and too backwoods to handle real problems.

But whatever fits whatever issue of the moment for you. It's not like you actually have any principles to worry about. You just take any side and pretend that's always been your side.For the record, my problem with Haley is that she has NO principles. She's against Trump, then she's his biggest supporter, then she says he's went over the line and she's done with him, then she goes and tries to suck back up to him... She'd become a liberal if she thought it would get her elected.

Wrong again and as usual. But your mysogonist attack on Nikki Haley is typical. We can't have a woman of color who was one of the most successful governors in the nation who isn't a liberal get any credit for her successful life.
My point obviously is that you don't have county prosecutors take on complex cases against high profile and well financed criminals.
However there are county prosecutors in certain areas primarily democratic strong holds that deal with high profile criminals on a regular basis.

[gounion]

Wrong again and as usual. But your mysogonist attack on Nikki Haley is typical. We can't have a woman of color who was one of the most successful governors in the nation who isn't a liberal get any credit for her successful life.
My point obviously is that you don't have county prosecutors take on complex cases against high profile and well financed criminals.
However there are county prosecutors in certain areas primarily democratic strong holds that deal with high profile criminals on a regular basis.

You just prove your own bias and how you have no principles.

And how do you know how complex of cases that are tried in one of the largest metro areas of our nation? Are you saying New York is superior to Atlanta?

And she has Sarah Palin and Donald Trump to thank for her career. But hey, she was a Trump when it was good for her when she did it, so you love her.

You make my case.

[Glennfs]

You just prove your own bias and how you have no principles.

And how do you know how complex of cases that are tried in one of the largest metro areas of our nation? Are you saying New York is superior to Atlanta?

And she has Sarah Palin and Donald Trump to thank for her career. But hey, she was a Trump when it was good for her when she did it, so you love her.

You make my case.

Because in New York City and the surrounding area they have been dealing with organized crime for about a century.

And once again you just can't help yourself. But that is the union boss way isn't it comrade

[gounion]

Because in New York City and the surrounding area they have been dealing with organized crime for about a century.

And once again you just can't help yourself. But that is the union boss way isn't it comrade

Oh, no organized crime in Atlanta? s

You have no idea. That’s the reality. You don’t know.

[Glennfs]

Oh, no organized crime in Atlanta? s

You have no idea. That’s the reality. You don’t know.

Not like in New York City. But of course you are correct the county prosecutor is the most qualified person in the world for this high profile a case.

[gounion]

Not like in New York City. But of course you are correct the county prosecutor is the most qualified person in the world for this high profile a case.

Well, here’s what’s funny - you attack the Trump prosecution in New York too.

Look, that’s what Trump broke the fucking law. And you don’t want him prosecuted for it. It’s that simple.

[Glennfs]

Well, here’s what’s funny - you attack the Trump prosecution in New York too.

Look, that’s what Trump broke the fucking law. And you don’t want him prosecuted for it. It’s that simple.

Not that the truth matters to liberals but, according to wiki this is her most prominent case.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta ... ng_scandal

[Glennfs]

Well, here’s what’s funny - you attack the Trump prosecution in New York too.

Look, that’s what Trump broke the fucking law. And you don’t want him prosecuted for it. It’s that simple.

Not really only pointing out that before he entered the political arena those crimes were ignored. IMO had he never entered the political arena they would still be being ignored.
As for his guilt or innocence I am fairly confident he is guilty as sin.

[gounion]

Not really only pointing out that before he entered the political arena those crimes were ignored. IMO had he never entered the political arena they would still be being ignored.
As for his guilt or innocence I am fairly confident he is guilty as sin.

But you don’t want him investigate or prosecuted or sentenced. Thanks for admitting that.

And you’re too stupid to understand that if you run for office, you bring attention to yourself. Aren’t you?

But it just us being out to get poor Donald. Your sense of victimhood is enormous.

[Glennfs]

But you don’t want him investigate or prosecuted or sentenced. Thanks for admitting that.

And you’re too stupid to understand that if you run for office, you bring attention to yourself. Aren’t you?

But it just us being out to get poor Donald. Your sense of victimhood is enormous.

No again pretending you don't understand my point.
Which is once again if convicted there will be no penalties. Other than maybe civil penalties.
Because of being a former president he will never spend a day in jail. If given house arrest he will have the exact same freedoms he has today.
Finally and take a second to answer. Could you or any liberal ever on this board be a juror.
I doubt it is possible to find an impartial juror anywhere. While you call me a Trumper primarily because you have your panties in a knot.
I personally believe he is guilty of about 75pct of the things you believe he guilty of.
You of course believe hevis guilty of 100pct if everything ever said about him criminal or salacious.
Prosecuting Trump is ridiculous.
But what isn't ridiculous is going after his staff and underlings who followed his orders.
Make examples of them and it would help stop the next Trump.

[gounion]

No again pretending you don't understand my point.
Which is once again if convicted there will be no penalties. Other than maybe civil penalties.
Because of being a former president he will never spend a day in jail. If given house arrest he will have the exact same freedoms he has today.
Finally and take a second to answer. Could you or any liberal ever on this board be a juror.
I doubt it is possible to find an impartial juror anywhere. While you call me a Trumper primarily because you have your panties in a knot.
I personally believe he is guilty of about 75pct of the things you believe he guilty of.
You of course believe hevis guilty of 100pct if everything ever said about him criminal or salacious.
Prosecuting Trump is ridiculous.
But what isn't ridiculous is going after his staff and underlings who followed his orders.
Make examples of them and it would help stop the next Trump.

No, you defend him on everything. You don’t believe he had anything to do with January 6th. You say he didn’t because in his Jan 6th speech he said “peacefully” twice.

If I EVER set on a jury, I will look at the evidence, and nothing else. I will give the most honest decision I can. Know why? Because I have PRINCIPLES.

And I believe NO ONE is above the law, even your worshipped Donald. We’ve sent Congressmen, Senators and Governors to prison, if Donald is found guilty, he can go to prison too.

[Glennfs]

No, you defend him on everything. You don’t believe he had anything to do with January 6th. You say he didn’t because in his Jan 6th speech he said “peacefully” twice.

If I EVER set on a jury, I will look at the evidence, and nothing else. I will give the most honest decision I can. Know why? Because I have PRINCIPLES.

And I believe NO ONE is above the law, even your worshipped Donald. We’ve sent Congressmen, Senators and Governors to prison, if Donald is found guilty, he can go to prison too.

Again lying what I said was by using the thecwords peaceful he would have " plausible " deniabilty.
Giving himself an out

[gounion]

Again lying what I said was by using the thecwords peaceful he would have " plausible " deniabilty.
Giving himself an out

No, he is obviously guilty. But you always defend him. It doesn’t matter who dies, right?

[Glennfs]

No, he is obviously guilty. But you always defend him. It doesn’t matter who dies, right?

The question isn't if he is guilty while he might not be guilty of everything you think he is obviously guilty of much of it.
The questions are
Can he receive a fair trial
No
Could you or a person like you be a juror
No
If convicted would he receive a penalty
No
Should a person whose biggest case was about school cheating be prosecutor
No
Does everyone deserve their constitutional rights,even Trump
Yes

So what is the correct thing to do?

Go after his underlings which would hopefully hinder people from committing the same crimes in the future. While hopefully damaging Trump's reputation beyond repair.

One question and please answer
Do you think if convicted Trump would ever go to jail

[gounion]

The question isn't if he is guilty while he might not be guilty of everything you think he is obviously guilty of much of it.
The questions are
Can he receive a fair trial
No
Could you or a person like you be a juror
No
If convicted would he receive a penalty
No
Should a person whose biggest case was about school cheating be prosecutor
No
Does everyone deserve their constitutional rights,even Trump
Yes

So what is the correct thing to do?

Go after his underlings which would hopefully hinder people from committing the same crimes in the future. While hopefully damaging Trump's reputation beyond repair.

One question and please answer
Do you think if convicted Trump would ever go to jail

Again, NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW. You think Trump is.

And Congressmen have went to jail. Senators have went to jail. Governors have went to jail. And yes, in the United States of America, Presidents CAN go to jail.

And this one deserves to.