2024 Presidential Election

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gounion wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:55 am You’re saying I want to elect a Republican?
p.s.

Watch the cons pretend that they are not bringing her up but she is in the news, etc. NOTHING she has done as in abuse will matter to them, they admire that.
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Dunno, I am also skeptical of how this always seems to come up with female candidates, weird how no men abuse their staff :roll: ... yes they also said it about Harris ...

She has every right to run, I like a lot of her ideas, I have her on no hit list, but I can say this: I'm not voting for her in the primaries if it is her and Joe Biden.

BTW, I don't think she would drop out and run as an Independent. Which, again, at least that is good. She will NOT do a Jill Stein.
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And Amy.. and Hillary...and.........

A demanding woman is a bitch. A demanding man is a leader. When it starts to smack of sexism is where a salt shaker comes in handy.
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bradman wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:54 pm And Amy.. and Hillary...and.........

A demanding woman is a bitch. A demanding man is a leader. When it starts to smack of sexism is where a salt shaker comes in handy.
So you think how Trump handles underlings is being a leader?
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Marianne Williamson on Her Insurgent Campaign Against Joe Biden
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Nathan J. Robinson, Williamson lays out her vision for a progressive alternative to the Democratic status quo.
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Robert F Kennedy Jr to challenge Biden for White House

Robert F Kennedy Jr has filed election paperwork to run for US president in 2024 as a Democrat.

The 69-year-old is the son of assassinated Senator Robert F Kennedy and nephew of President John F Kennedy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65197673
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I used to have tremendous respect for RFK Jr. He may not have had the best "radio voice" but his program on environmental issues was great.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. I wonder how other members of his family like his current bedfellows.

That's RFK Jr. with Roger Stone and Mike Flynn backstage at a "Reawaken America" conference. The woman is an anti-vax activist. Not Photoshop.

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Even his own wife, Cheryl Hines, blasted him for comparing vaccine mandates to the Holocaust and suggesting what people faced was worse than Anne Frank.

I'd vote for Marianne Williamson if she was our nominee. It won't be RFK Jr., but I'd have to think long and hard on it. Even if the opponent was Trump.
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ProfX wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:32 am I used to have tremendous respect for RFK Jr. He may not have had the best "radio voice" but his program on environmental issues was great.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. I wonder how other members of his family like his current bedfellows.

That's RFK Jr. with Roger Stone and Mike Flynn backstage at a "Reawaken America" conference. The woman is an anti-vax activist. Not Photoshop.

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Even his own wife, Cheryl Hines, blasted him for comparing vaccine mandates to the Holocaust and suggesting what people faced was worse than Anne Frank.

I'd vote for Marianne Williamson if she was our nominee. It won't be RFK Jr., but I'd have to think long and hard on it. Even if the opponent was Trump.
Yep, I saw that. He’s also buddies with Steve Bannon, but I suppose that’s obvious since he’s with these two traitors. Bannon has been pushing for him to run. Of course he would never win the general, which is the point.
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For those who remember me from Air America Place message board, I used to have an avatar of the three Kennedy Brothers with the caption "My Heroes have always been Kennedys, and they still are, it seems".

Sadly, no longer. It brings me to tears what RFK Jr. has become, especially since RFK was my biggest hero.

I do NOT support him in any way.
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gounion wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:38 am For those who remember me from Air America Place message board, I used to have an avatar of the three Kennedy Brothers with the caption "My Heroes have always been Kennedys, and they still are, it seems".

Sadly, no longer. It brings me to tears what RFK Jr. has become, especially since RFK was my biggest hero.

I do NOT support him in any way.
Except of he were to win the nomination you will vote for him and tell us how great he is.
If he does run I plan on registering as a democratic so I can vote for him in the primary.
Our country can not deal with another 4 years of a president who is so obviously in mental decline.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:44 am Except of he were to win the nomination you will vote for him and tell us how great he is.
If he does run I plan on registering as a democratic so I can vote for him in the primary.
Our country can not deal with another 4 years of a president who is so obviously in mental decline.
No, I don't know that I would. If it were him vs Trump, I might VOTE for him. But I would not and do not support him. I would fight hard against him.

I can tell you flatly that I would NEVER campaign for RFK Jr. or say he was a good candidate. Period.

Against a Larry Hogan? I dunno. Might vote for Hogan, I think so little of RFK Jr. But the Hogan has his own problems. He's not much of a judge of character, since his Chief of Staff was such a crook that he ran from the law then got into a shootout with the FBI.

I would never register or vote in a Republican Primary. I don't like either side doing that. It's up to the actual party voters. It's not morally or ethically right to do so. Of course, such a thing would never bother you.

Our country is doing fine with President Biden. He's doing a far better job than any Republican this Century.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:44 am Except of he were to win the nomination you will vote for him and tell us how great he is.
If he does run I plan on registering as a democratic so I can vote for him in the primary.
Our country can not deal with another 4 years of a president who is so obviously in mental decline.
No he wouldn't. That's just pure bullshit. RFK Jr. isn't a Dem, he's an op, allied with Trumpers. But keep repeating Trump's projection about Biden being in mental decline. It's what you do.

It's not a surprise you'd vote for him in the primary if you could. RFK is nuts, which means you're not only a hypocrite, you're on board with a blatant Trump op, because you're a Trumper, which we all know. You don't give a shit about the USA and you're a child.
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Biden tells Al Roker: ‘I plan on running’

President Joe Biden told “TODAY” show co-host Al Roker on Monday that he plans to run for a second term.

“I plan on running, Al, but we’re not prepared to announce it yet,” he said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-bi ... _nn_tw_mtp
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Drak wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:44 am No he wouldn't. That's just pure bullshit. RFK Jr. isn't a Dem, he's an op, allied with Trumpers. But keep repeating Trump's projection about Biden being in mental decline. It's what you do.

It's not a surprise you'd vote for him in the primary if you could. RFK is nuts, which means you're not only a hypocrite, you're on board with a blatant Trump op, because you're a Trumper, which we all know. You don't give a shit about the USA and you're a child.
It's not because Glenn wants what's best for the country, he wants to interfere and hurt the Democratic Party.
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I've always wondered whether RFK jr is a double agent. He had a show on the late great Air America which spread a lot of anti-vax nonsense, so we know he's good at fooling lefties into thinking he's on their side. He isn't. There is no dark conspiracy to inject brain toxins into your kids.

Don't buy his line of shit. He's a DINO.
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ZoWie wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:24 am I've always wondered whether RFK jr is a double agent. He had a show on the late great Air America which spread a lot of anti-vax nonsense, so we know he's good at fooling lefties into thinking he's on their side. He isn't. There is no dark conspiracy to inject brain toxins into your kids.

Don't buy his line of shit. He's a DINO.
Yeah, you are correct. fuck him
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He has the name recognition but in this day and age of "image" the thing he has going against him his his voice. It isn't a voice that sounds like he knows what he's talking about. About the best description of his voice I can give is he sounds like a very nervous high school freshman having to give his first oral report in front of his class. Here's a YouTube video where you can hear his voice: https://www.markey.senate.gov/view/sc-h ... -statement

While it would be good if we judged candidates on their ideas and beliefs but the reality is the physical attributes of candidate plays a huge part in people's judgement and decisions. We're more likely to listen to a stranger who is attractive rather than to someone who most would call ugly. TV newsrooms usually have attractive or pleasant looking news anchors and reporters. Television and movies have attractive actors in the lead roles because no one wants to see someone ugly on the screen. The same thinking applies to a person's voice. We tend to listen to someone who has a pleasant voice and/or one that conveys they know what they're talking about even when they don't know what they're talking about.

Image all comes down to perception and we all suffer with our perception preferences. RFK Jr's voice, IMO, is distracting and is why I think he doesn't stand a chance of winning any delegates.
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gounion wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:42 am No, I don't know that I would. If it were him vs Trump, I might VOTE for him. But I would not and do not support him. I would fight hard against him.

I can tell you flatly that I would NEVER campaign for RFK Jr. or say he was a good candidate. Period.

Against a Larry Hogan? I dunno. Might vote for Hogan, I think so little of RFK Jr. But the Hogan has his own problems. He's not much of a judge of character, since his Chief of Staff was such a crook that he ran from the law then got into a shootout with the FBI.

I would never register or vote in a Republican Primary. I don't like either side doing that. It's up to the actual party voters. It's not morally or ethically right to do so. Of course, such a thing would never bother you.

Our country is doing fine with President Biden. He's doing a far better job than any Republican this Century.
So the man who has never voted against a Democrat is now suddenly not sure.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:18 am So the man who has never voted against a Democrat is now suddenly not sure.
Right
Just telling you the truth. Remember, I'm the guy who said "My heroes have always been Kennedys".

But it's a moot question. He has no chance at all.
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Interesting Their 2nd time hosting the convention & 12th overall I last visited Chicago in 1982 & had some family members living there Congratulations Chicago.

Chicago to host 2024 Democratic National Convention

WASHINGTON — The Democratic National Committee selected Chicago to host the 2024 Democratic National Convention, the Sun-Times has learned, with the city beating bids from Atlanta and New York.

The convention will take place Aug. 19-22 next year. It is expected to draw between 5,000 and 7,000 delegates and alternates and attract up to 50,000 visitors to Chicago.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2 ... convention
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Hopefully it will go better than another Democratic convention there which damn near killed democracy in the US.
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gounion wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:56 pm So you think how Trump handles underlings is being a leader?
C’mon, GoU.

He means that an asshole male is viewed as a leader but a women who is strong is viewed as a bitch.
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bird wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:07 pm C’mon, GoU.

He means that an asshole male is viewed as a leader but a women who is strong is viewed as a bitch.
I stand corrected! :D
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gounion wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:34 pm I stand corrected! :D
;) :D

Peace.
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