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Jon Stewart to conservative state senator: 'you don't give a flying f**k'

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This is how stupid Tennessee Republicans are: https://www.rawstory.com/tennessee-drag-queen-bill/
HB0009, sponsored by state Rep. Chris Todd (R), would create an offense for a person who "engages in adult cabaret entertainment on public property or in a location where the adult cabaret entertainment could be viewed by a person who is not an adult."

"This amendment defines 'adult cabaret entertainment' as adult-oriented performances that are harmful to minors, as such term is defined under present law; feature go-go dancers, exotic dancers, strippers, male or female impersonators, or similar entertainers; and include a single performance or multiple performances by an entertainer," the bill description adds.

In a floor debate, Clemmons of Nashville pointed out some of the problems with the bill.

"The language of this bill would allow me to arrest Beyonce when she performs here," Clemmons claimed.

"Your language here, as a lawyer, that any entertainment that features a topless dancer — you could have male topless dancers," he said. "I mean, you could have a child — you can watch performances from the street without entering that venue. So, you could have a 16-year-old walking up the street looking in a concert at Beyoncé, Harry Styles, Liz Upton, most any entertainer, and they you're going to allow a district attorney to go down there and arrest that entertainer?"

"You are taking direct aim at Music City, USA just because you subjectively may not agree with it," he continued. "You can not exclude individual classes of people because you do not agree with them or hate them. That is unconstitutional."

Clemmons predicted the legislation would not stand up in court.
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I've been to several drag shows over the years. Even the "adult" ones weren't worse that PG rated.

I went to a local Pride festival last year here in Tennessee. It was very much a family affair, G rated for as much as I could tell. But under the new law, at least a quarter of the attendees would be arrested.

But that's the world Glenn, Joe and Greengrass wants to have us live in. They always have to have a minority to demonize and hate.

It's okay, the right still hates gays too. In Florida, they are "out" with their hatred.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:44 pm I've been to several drag shows over the years. Even the "adult" ones weren't worse that PG rated.

I went to a local Pride festival last year here in Tennessee. It was very much a family affair, G rated for as much as I could tell. But under the new law, at least a quarter of the attendees would be arrested.

But that's the world Glenn, Joe and Greengrass wants to have us live in. They always have to have a minority to demonize and hate.

It's okay, the right still hates gays too. In Florida, they are "out" with their hatred.
I have seen clips from the pride parades in New York City and San Francisco and they are quite different than Nashville Tennessee.
So your strawman is meaningless. It is about community standards.
If you are OK with drag artists dressed provocatively stroking a 22 inch dildoe while marching that is fine. But, most people aren't.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:04 pm I have seen clips from the pride parades in New York City and San Francisco and they are quite different than Nashville Tennessee.
So your strawman is meaningless. It is about community standards.
If you are OK with drag artists dressed provocatively stroking a 22 inch dildoe while marching that is fine. But, most people aren't.
Well then why did they make it illegal in Tennessee?

You just jump on the ant-gay any time you can, don’t you?
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:05 pm Well then why did they make it illegal in Tennessee?

You just jump on the ant-gay any time you can, don’t you?
Gay and Trans folks scare the con. Lots of reasons why, same reason Women scare them.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:05 pm Well then why did they make it illegal in Tennessee?

You just jump on the ant-gay any time you can, don’t you?
The language is very vague and does not identify a person dressed in drag as participating in burlesque.
If people are dressed properly and behaving in an orderly manner there will be no problem.
At the end of the day there is nothing that prevents a man from wearing a skirt or a woman from wearing slacks. These laws are simply to keep things within community standards.
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Libertas wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:14 pm Gay and Trans folks scare the con. Lots of reasons why, same reason Women scare them.
How so, it seems to me that the left are scared of women like Governor Haley and men like Tim Scott
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:15 pm The language is very vague and does not identify a person dressed in drag as participating in burlesque.
If people are dressed properly and behaving in an orderly manner there will be no problem.
At the end of the day there is nothing that prevents a man from wearing a skirt or a woman from wearing slacks. These laws are simply to keep things within community standards.
Bullshit. The law will make many big shows in Nashville illegal. And of course, like so damned many Republicans, the Governor himself likes to dress in drag. What about jocks that dress up? They do it all the time.

And a bunch of guys wore dresses at the plant I worked at because women could wear dresses but guys couldn’t wear shorts. Lock’em up!

I’m sure you’ll never let your grandson watch Tootsie, right?

Isn’t it great that this is one of the biggest issues for the GOP?
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:20 pm Bullshit. The law will make many big shows in Nashville illegal. And of course, like so damned many Republicans, the Governor himself likes to dress in drag. What about jocks that dress up? They do it all the time.

And a bunch of guys wore dresses at the plant I worked at because women could wear dresses but guys couldn’t wear shorts. Lock’em up!

I’m sure you’ll never let your grandson watch Tootsie, right?

Isn’t it great that this is one of the biggest issues for the GOP?
Nice strawman yes Tootsie is exactly the same as a drag artist marching down main stroking a dildoe.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:22 pm Nice strawman yes Tootsie is exactly the same as a drag artist marching down main stroking a dildoe.
That’s NOT what is happening. Again, show me where it’s happening in Tennessee or admit you’re full of shit.

And Tootsie is the kind of thing they want to censor. Anyone with a dildo can be arrested for public lewdness. So, why make the law?

Because YOUR PARTY is homophobic and you support them.
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:24 pm That’s NOT what is happening. Again, show me where it’s happening in Tennessee or admit you’re full of shit.

And Tootsie is the kind of thing they want to censor. Anyone with a dildo can be arrested for public lewdness. So, why make the law?

Because YOUR PARTY is homophobic and you support them.
Your party has no standards. These laws are new and we will have to wait and see if and how they are enforced.

Would it be OK to take my grandkids ti the strip bar
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:26 pm Your party has no standards. These laws are new and we will have to wait and see if and how they are enforced.

Would it be OK to take my grandkids ti the strip bar
I bet it wouldn’t bother you at all to take him to a Hooters or some such, would it?

And why not?

i bet you won’t let him see Tootsie, though, will you? I bet you don’t want him to see any gay people at all.
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There are already laws forbidding indecent performances in front of minors. It doesn't matter if it's a drag performer or a Hooters girl. Therefore, these laws banning drag are unnecessary. At least if you're going to claim it's for the sake of the children.
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ProfX wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:32 pm There are already laws forbidding indecent performances in front of minors. It doesn't matter if it's a drag performer or a Hooters girl. Therefore, these laws banning drag are unnecessary. At least if you're going to claim it's for the sake of the children.
Jon Stewart said it all. Notice how Glenn has ignored that post?
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gounion wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:34 pm Jon Stewart said it all. Notice how Glenn has ignored that post?
Well if Jon Stewart said it,it must be true
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:36 pm Well if Jon Stewart said it,it must be true
He made an argument you can’t refute.
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John Stewart is correct. Guns kill more children than drag show readings do.

In 2022, more than 1,300 children between ages 12-17 were killed and nearly 3,800 injured.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 956455002/


It's a sad commentary that one of the lessons kids are learning in school is what to do in case of a shooter because conservatives are trying to protect children from drag shows while making it easier for people to own guns and carry them openly in public. Anyone want to dispute the correlation?
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GOP, “it’s not up to the government to protect children from gun violence!”

Also GOP, “it’s up to the government to protect children from drag shows!”

Honorable mention:

GOP, “The government doesn’t get to dictate how we parent and raise our children! Freedumb!”

Also GOP, “We will tell you how to parent!”
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ProfX wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:32 pm There are already laws forbidding indecent performances in front of minors. It doesn't matter if it's a drag performer or a Hooters girl. Therefore, these laws banning drag are unnecessary. At least if you're going to claim it's for the sake of the children.
This. The anti drag laws are pure bigotry.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:15 pm The language is very vague and does not identify a person dressed in drag as participating in burlesque.
If people are dressed properly and behaving in an orderly manner there will be no problem.
At the end of the day there is nothing that prevents a man from wearing a skirt or a woman from wearing slacks. These laws are simply to keep things within community standards.
Define community standards.

There is no such thing. There is various peoples attempting to enshrine into law that which they think is moral. Generally, these revolve around selected readings taken out of context from so-called scripture.

I will pit your whining about dildos against the blatant and disgusting sexualization and grooming of children in little kid “beauty” pageants. Which is worse? The deforming of young children as to sex and beauty or a bunch of drag queens? The occasional dildo stroking is nothing compared to a 6 or 7 year old made up to look like a 20+year old who is ready to hit the bars.
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This whole kerfuffle on drag shows is a new low for this culture.

If this was reformation era England, the Republican Party would be trying to ban Shakespeare.
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chuckle. Community standards. Anyone ever been to Sturgis? No matter which town ya end up in it's one long parade. Rows and rows of bikes parked at the curb with a constant flow of bikers showing off their fancy bikes. That's not all some are showing off. You have women in nothing but lace stockings and tassles. You can have your picture taken with young girls who have nothing on but body paint at the Amazoil booth. Then there's some guy walking around in nothing but chaps and a g string with what looks like a anaconda packed in there. Dildos? How bout the guy that rode through in chaps with a 2 ft. dildo waving back and forth from the top of his helmet. The crowd, including children, taking it all in. Kristi Noem should be ashamed for promoting such a thing. Why, there atta be a law.
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ZoWie wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:57 am This whole kerfuffle on drag shows is a new low for this culture.

If this was reformation era England, the Republican Party would be trying to ban Shakespeare.
It never ends everything they hate they make such a huge big ass deal it's asinine Holidays, Food, TV it's a never ending rotating hateful cycle with the GOP next thing you know they'll come up with a fake cancel culture rant on animals. *Face Palm*
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It's how they maintain themselves as the center of attention. They've internalized that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and they intend to squeak louder than anyone else.

I doubt Tucker Carlson believes half his shit, but it's sure effective at keeping his name out there.
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