The thread is about Texas AG Paxton I believe. Other names have entered the discussion by means of whataboutism. Thomas is one of those. So your comments on whataboutism were driven by someone else bringing up Thomas which was classic whataboutism. So you fell for the “look over here” from someone other than me.Toonces wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:08 pm They say that the best defense is a good offense. I guess that works here too. In order to avoid saying anything critical of Thomas, we'll just point out where others are not being sufficiently criticized for whatever real or imagined transgressions may have occurred. The topic was Thomas so I commented on that. I do apologize if I omitted all other potential subjects.
Since it does appear to bother you that
- has not met with the necessary amount of scorn you also question Thomas' continued fitness for the course. I have to assume this because you've not actually made it clear, your opinion on the person we're talking about in this particular threat tangent. Of course, whataboutism is oft about "You've not been critical of X, therefore you must not care and, as such, I can happily continue my support of Y". Sometimes it's just a simple "Look over here!"
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You brought up the Clintons and Biden. Forgot you did that, didja?JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 8:16 am The thread is about Texas AG Paxton I believe. Other names have entered the discussion by means of whataboutism. Thomas is one of those. So your comments on whataboutism were driven by someone else bringing up Thomas which was classic whataboutism. So you fell for the “look over here” from someone other than me.
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Glenn brought up Thomas, you brought up the Clintons and Bidens. You wanna bitch about whataboutism, it’s you not us. Keep up, dickhead.JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 8:07 pm Nope but Toonces was referring to a comment re: Thomas. Do try to keep up.
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Nobody can say a thing about Biden but what you don’t go off on your favorite obsession DJT. My point is that whataboutism is part of a discussion board. Pretty much everybody does it. I didn’t bitch about it. Toonce brought it up. She wasn’t really bitching about it. You are the one doing all the bitching.
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You’re the one doing the bitching. You want to pretend that this guy isn’t a crook. That shows you have no actual principles at all, because it’s obvious how crooked he is, and the courts have found him so.JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 9:05 pm Nobody can say a thing about Biden but what you don’t go off on your favorite obsession DJT. My point is that whataboutism is part of a discussion board. Pretty much everybody does it. I didn’t bitch about it. Toonce brought it up. She wasn’t really bitching about it. You are the one doing all the bitching.
Now, go ahead, scream “BBBBUT BIDEN!’
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Which guy? We’ve talked about a few. So which one are you saying were convicted in court?
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Paxton. He's indicted by the Securities and Exchange Commission, he's retaliated against former employees and wants the taxpayers to pay for the settlement, and his own party's investigation says he's guilty and needs to be removed from office.JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 9:22 pm Which guy? We’ve talked about a few. So which one are you saying were convicted in court?
Look, here's the difference between us. Even though Paxton is a bad guy, you will support him fully because he's a Republican. Both you and Glenn. As long as they have an (R) behind their name, you support them. If they have a (D) behind their name, you say they are criminals, even if they have a spotless record.
I'll admit that Hunter Biden isn't a good guy. Probably should be in prison for going over the line in making money off his dad's name. But you haven't proven AT ALL that his dad did anything wrong at all. There's a long history of people making money off other people's name, and sadly, it's perfectly legal most of the time.
But when Dems do bad things, I'm for removing them, not defending them. But you know, the Clintons, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, they've been ENDLESSLY investigated by the right and by Special Counsels, and all they ever got is Bill Clinton lied about a blow job. That's it. But you don't care, to you they are STILL all criminals, you just KNOW it!
But you can NEVER admit ANY Republican has EVER done anything wrong. You will come to these threads and play your games, accuse us of whataboutism, while it's YOU doing it. You simply have no shame.
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Says the guy who claims to believe that HRC legally made 100k in futures tradinggounion wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 7:25 am Paxton. He's indicted by the Securities and Exchange Commission, he's retaliated against former employees and wants the taxpayers to pay for the settlement, and his own party's investigation says he's guilty and needs to be removed from office.
Look, here's the difference between us. Even though Paxton is a bad guy, you will support him fully because he's a Republican. Both you and Glenn. As long as they have an (R) behind their name, you support them. If they have a (D) behind their name, you say they are criminals, even if they have a spotless record.
I'll admit that Hunter Biden isn't a good guy. Probably should be in prison for going over the line in making money off his dad's name. But you haven't proven AT ALL that his dad did anything wrong at all. There's a long history of people making money off other people's name, and sadly, it's perfectly legal most of the time.
But when Dems do bad things, I'm for removing them, not defending them. But you know, the Clintons, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, they've been ENDLESSLY investigated by the right and by Special Counsels, and all they ever got is Bill Clinton lied about a blow job. That's it. But you don't care, to you they are STILL all criminals, you just KNOW it!
But you can NEVER admit ANY Republican has EVER done anything wrong. You will come to these threads and play your games, accuse us of whataboutism, while it's YOU doing it. You simply have no shame.
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Where is the indictment?
Are you innocent until proven guilty?
And even if she is, SO? Why does that outrage you so? Why aren’t you outraged over Trump ripping people off with a fake real estate university? Why does that make him a “great businessman”?
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There’s lots of differences between us. Thank god. Cause nobody I know wants to be you and Icertainly wouldn’t hold you out as an example to live by.gounion wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 7:25 am Paxton. He's indicted by the Securities and Exchange Commission, he's retaliated against former employees and wants the taxpayers to pay for the settlement, and his own party's investigation says he's guilty and needs to be removed from office.
Look, here's the difference between us. Even though Paxton is a bad guy, you will support him fully because he's a Republican. Both you and Glenn. As long as they have an (R) behind their name, you support them. If they have a (D) behind their name, you say they are criminals, even if they have a spotless record.
I'll admit that Hunter Biden isn't a good guy. Probably should be in prison for going over the line in making money off his dad's name. But you haven't proven AT ALL that his dad did anything wrong at all. There's a long history of people making money off other people's name, and sadly, it's perfectly legal most of the time.
But when Dems do bad things, I'm for removing them, not defending them. But you know, the Clintons, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, they've been ENDLESSLY investigated by the right and by Special Counsels, and all they ever got is Bill Clinton lied about a blow job. That's it. But you don't care, to you they are STILL all criminals, you just KNOW it!
But you can NEVER admit ANY Republican has EVER done anything wrong. You will come to these threads and play your games, accuse us of whataboutism, while it's YOU doing it. You simply have no shame.
I never pretended Paxton to be anything. By the way, your claim that the courts have rules here is just erroneous. He hasn’t been convicted. That is not to say he won’t be but that is up to a judge and jury. You have made such claims of irrefutable evidence before only to be proven wrong. So your legal opinion isn’t worth much.
You are also the guy who said that the entire GOP in Texas was corrupt and yet a majority of the GOP members in the Texas House voted to impeach. Just more unsubstantiated BS from you.
One difference between “us” is that I don’t dismiss allegations or ignore allegations because of party. You make all kinds of excuses to block or justify an impartial, thorough investigation into democrats. And then you are eager to pronounce conservatives or Republicans guilty prior to even a preliminary investigation. It’s a double standard which is no standard at all. It’s a liars standard.
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I lived there. Yes, Texas is corrupt. And they’ve elected this corrupt man several times.JoeMemphis wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 8:59 am There’s lots of differences between us. Thank god. Cause nobody I know wants to be you and Icertainly wouldn’t hold you out as an example to live by.
I never pretended Paxton to be anything. By the way, your claim that the courts have rules here is just erroneous. He hasn’t been convicted. That is not to say he won’t be but that is up to a judge and jury. You have made such claims of irrefutable evidence before only to be proven wrong. So your legal opinion isn’t worth much.
You are also the guy who said that the entire GOP in Texas was corrupt and yet a majority of the GOP members in the Texas House voted to impeach. Just more unsubstantiated BS from you.
One difference between “us” is that I don’t dismiss allegations or ignore allegations because of party. You make all kinds of excuses to block or justify an impartial, thorough investigation into democrats. And then you are eager to pronounce conservatives or Republicans guilty prior to even a preliminary investigation. It’s a double standard which is no standard at all. It’s a liars standard.
These aren’t allegations. Not according the the State House.
You dismiss allegations against all Republicans, but never dismiss allegations against Dems, even when they’ve been investigated and cleared.
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Is Senator Menendez corruptgounion wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 9:03 am I lived there. Yes, Texas is corrupt. And they’ve elected this corrupt man several times.
These aren’t allegations. Not according the the State House.
You dismiss allegations against all Republicans, but never dismiss allegations against Dems, even when they’ve been investigated and cleared.
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Possibly. Money is VERY corrupting in our system. He may have crossed the line. But he’s been tried, and not convicted, and the Justice Department decided not to re-try.
Are you innocent before proven guilty? Or is that just for Republicans?
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Just maybe you just can't bring yourself to say any democrat is corrupt
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Sure. We’ve had them. Jefferson in Louisiana was one. We chucked’em out. Gov. Blagoyavich, he’s in prison (and I probably misspelled his name).
Tell you what - why don’t you name some current GOP corrupt officials, including Presidential candidates.
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I knew you would mention people no longer in power or relevant or alive.
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I don't support Paxton never heard of him until recently.
I can easily name corrupt Republicans
Donald Trump
But you can't bring yourself to even admit the obvious. That being Menendez is as corrupt as they come
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You haven’t said a word against him on this thread. You scream “whataboutism”.
So when we bring up Donald Trump’s corruption, you always defend him?
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You say whataboutism because you can't defend your support of Menendez.
Maybe the democratic party will do the right thing like the Texas republican party and remove a powerful politician from office.
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I didn’t vote for Menendez. And he’s been investigated. Why didn’t the jury convict him? Maybe because they didn’t have a case?
You believe all Dems are automatically guilty. Even if you have no proof.
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Nope, it's not. You're the one that thinks the Clintons and Bidens are guilty of SOMETHING, even though Special Counsels have investigated them every which way and found nothing. But you support Paxton and Trump.
To you, corruption is a feature, not a bug.
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Let me know when you are ready to really do something about corruption and we will talk. You are only interested in combatting corruption when it suits your political ideology.