TX AG Ken Paxton impeached and removed

[gounion]

Awaiting trial. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/27/politics ... index.html

The Texas House of Representatives has voted to impeach Attorney General Ken Paxton, an unprecedented move following a legislative probe that faulted the third-term Republican for a yearslong pattern of corruption, including abusing his office’s powers, retaliating against whistleblowers and obstructing justice.

Under state law, Paxton is now temporarily suspended from his duties as attorney general and will await a Senate trial.

The vote was 121-23, with two members voting “present.”

“The evidence is substantial. It is alarming and unnerving,” said GOP Rep. Andrew Murr, chair of the General Investigating Committee, during his closing statement following hours of debate. The committee recommended 20 counts of impeachment against Paxton.

Gee, I wonder why Glenn and Joe hasn't commented on this. I'm sure there would be thread after thread had this been a Democrat. I guess, for guys like them, corruption is a feature.

[Glennfs]

I don't live in Texas and this doesn't have any nationwide implications. However since you asked good deal Texas Republicans.

Now you care to comment on Senator Menendez

[Number6]

Awaiting trial. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/27/politics ... index.html



Gee, I wonder why Glenn and Joe hasn't commented on this. I'm sure there would be thread after thread had this been a Democrat. I guess, for guys like them, corruption is a feature.

The title of this thread is misleading in that Paxton was impeached in the House but he has yet to be tried in the Senate. In order to be removed from office, the Texas Senate needs to find him guilty.

[Glennfs]

The title of this thread is misleading in that Paxton was impeached in the House but he has yet to be tried in the Senate. In order to be removed from office, the Texas Senate needs to find him guilty.

Did you know his wife is in the Texas senate

[ap215]

And that's not the only thing that's happening in Texas.

Texas Republicans pass bills targeting elections administration in Houston-area county

(CNN) — Texas Republicans have approved a pair of bills targeting the elections process in Harris County, the state’s largest and home to Houston, with voting rights activists accusing the GOP of plotting a “power grab” in an increasingly Democratic county.

The measures, which passed the Republican-controlled state House and Senate, now head to the desk of GOP Gov. Greg Abbott.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/28/politics ... index.html

[Number6]

Did you know his wife is in the Texas senate

Yes I do know and I'm wondering if she will recuse herself from the impeachment trial.

[Glennfs]

Yes I do know and I'm wondering if she will recuse herself from the impeachment trial.

I am guessing no

[Toonces]

Yes I do know and I'm wondering if she will recuse herself from the impeachment trial.

They've been married 37 years, chances are the corruption has rubbed off on her.

[gounion]

She won’t recuse. The entire GOP in Texas is corrupt. Funny thing is, part of his corruption is chasing other women, and she’s fine with it, because they’re both Christians. Isn’t it funny that’s fine when they’re Republicans?

I doubt the Senate will convict. Not in Texas. And when they don’t, Glenn will say he’s done nothing wrong, and then bring up Menendez again, even though he hasn’t been convicted of anything, and there are no charges against him.

[JoeMemphis]

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/27 ... 2d22fc8d54

From what has been reported, the vote in the Texas House was bipartisan. The speaker and a majority of the GOP voted to impeach including the GOP house members from Paxtons home county.

So I guess the person who said Texas Republicans were corrupt is full of shit.

[Glennfs]

She won’t recuse. The entire GOP in Texas is corrupt. Funny thing is, part of his corruption is chasing other women, and she’s fine with it, because they’re both Christians. Isn’t it funny that’s fine when they’re Republicans?

I doubt the Senate will convict. Not in Texas. And when they don’t, Glenn will say he’s done nothing wrong, and then bring up Menendez again, even though he hasn’t been convicted of anything, and there are no charges against him.

I knew you would defend Menendez who is probably the most corrupt member of the senate.

[gounion]

I knew you would defend Menendez who is probably the most corrupt member of the senate.

Then why isn’t he charged?

[Glennfs]

Then why isn’t he charged?

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/senator- ... es%20Fraud

You want to put Justice Thomas in prison over the sale of a 130 000 piece of real estate.
Then ignore and defend real corruption.

Does the bile of your hypocrisy ever back up into your throat.

[gounion]

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/senator- ... es%20Fraud

You want to put Justice Thomas in prison over the sale of a 130 000 piece of real estate.
Then ignore and defend real corruption.

Does the bile of your hypocrisy ever back up into your throat.

Why do you just pick out one thing? How about the vacations and plane trips worth million.

[Toonces]

Therein lies the problem. We have no idea if Thomas was influenced by the 'gifts', or if acted ethically. When you give a reason to have your ethics questioned, don't be surprised if your ethics are questioned. If you're in a position of power and influence and receiving gifts and favorable deals you should know full well that it's improper. If you don't, your judgment is certainly suspect. Having suspect judgment as a judge is not a good thing.

I mean, I could understand some confusion if they were lifelong friends, but that's not the case.

[JoeMemphis]

Therein lies the problem. We have no idea if Thomas was influenced by the 'gifts', or if acted ethically. When you give a reason to have your ethics questioned, don't be surprised if your ethics are questioned. If you're in a position of power and influence and receiving gifts and favorable deals you should know full well that it's improper. If you don't, your judgment is certainly suspect. Having suspect judgment as a judge is not a good thing.

I mean, I could understand some confusion if they were lifelong friends, but that's not the case.

Do yo think the same could be said of the millions of dollars flowing from foreign entities to Biden Family members of the millions of dollars flowing thru Canadian to the Clinton Foundation? I have no problem with setting a high standard but I do think it should apply across all branches of government, apply to executive level officers, elected officials and their staffs, and be fully and impartially investigated by professionals. Further there should be no stonewalling of one branches oversight be another. That is if we REALLY want to do something about corruption other than just talk about it.

[gounion]

Do yo think the same could be said of the millions of dollars flowing from foreign entities to Biden Family members of the millions of dollars flowing thru Canadian to the Clinton Foundation? I have no problem with setting a high standard but I do think it should apply across all branches of government, apply to executive level officers, elected officials and their staffs, and be fully and impartially investigated by professionals. Further there should be no stonewalling of one branches oversight be another. That is if we REALLY want to do something about corruption other than just talk about it.

John Durham investigated all of that and found nothing.

But you don’t care about reality, do you?

And you don’t care if the taxpayers have to pay out millions when the AG gets sued. Or when Ron DeSantis sues Disney. It’s only your money, right?

[Toonces]

Do yo think the same could be said of the millions of dollars flowing from foreign entities to Biden Family members of the millions of dollars flowing thru Canadian to the Clinton Foundation? I have no problem with setting a high standard but I do think it should apply across all branches of government, apply to executive level officers, elected officials and their staffs, and be fully and impartially investigated by professionals. Further there should be no stonewalling of one branches oversight be another. That is if we REALLY want to do something about corruption other than just talk about it.

See, now a proper whataboutism would have been the dealings of another justice.

If there are bribes or payments going through an intermediary up to the president, then sure, investigate that. Of course, Thomas was taking actual gifts, no one in between. Frankly, I like the highest court in the land to have little to no questions about its integrity. I certainly wouldn't defend one simply because he/she/they seem to represent my values. Especially, considering one of those values is honesty and integrity. I mean, if I were to overlook a compromise of principles I'd be compromising my principles. While I do love a good irony, that's not one of those times.

[JoeMemphis]

John Durham investigated all of that and found nothing.

But you don’t care about reality, do you?

And you don’t care if the taxpayers have to pay out millions when the AG gets sued. Or when Ron DeSantis sues Disney. It’s only your money, right?

Money is fiction according to you. So maybe you need to lay down and take a pill and make believe it will go away.

[JoeMemphis]

See, now a proper whataboutism would have been the dealings of another justice.

If there are bribes or payments going through an intermediary up to the president, then sure, investigate that. Of course, Thomas was taking actual gifts, no one in between. Frankly, I like the highest court in the land to have little to no questions about its integrity. I certainly wouldn't defend one simply because he/she/they seem to represent my values. Especially, considering one of those values is honesty and integrity. I mean, if I were to overlook a compromise of principles I'd be compromising my principles. While I do love a good irony, that's not one of those times.

Maybe you can explain why corruption in one branch is more or less than corruption in another. If you don’t like whataboutism, then apply the same standard to everyone. Treat everyone the same. What’s funny to me is that folks complain about corruption in one party and pretend it can’t happen or doesn’t happen in the other. They look for excuses not to do anything. The ole “false equivalency” bs excuse comes to mind.

In an evenly divided country, nobody is going to trust government institutions with double standards.

[Toonces]

They say that the best defense is a good offense. I guess that works here too. In order to avoid saying anything critical of Thomas, we'll just point out where others are not being sufficiently criticized for whatever real or imagined transgressions may have occurred. The topic was Thomas so I commented on that. I do apologize if I omitted all other potential subjects.

Since it does appear to bother you that

• has not met with the necessary amount of scorn you also question Thomas' continued fitness for the course. I have to assume this because you've not actually made it clear, your opinion on the person we're talking about in this particular threat tangent. Of course, whataboutism is oft about "You've not been critical of X, therefore you must not care and, as such, I can happily continue my support of Y". Sometimes it's just a simple "Look over here!"

[gounion]

Money is fiction according to you. So maybe you need to lay down and take a pill and make believe it will go away.

Wow, that's a bunch of "I've got nothin'!"

You don't care about facts at all, do you?

[Glennfs]

Wow, that's a bunch of "I've got nothin'!"

You don't care about facts at all, do you?

OK let's use your standard. Has Thomas been indicted or committed a crime.
We need one standard for everyone in government. Both legally and in the court of public opinion.

For some reason you believe Thomas has been influenced. But the Clinton foundation getting 100s of millions from foreign governments or the Biden family making 10s of millions from foreign governments or Hunter getting 6 figures for his art has no influence.

[gounion]

OK let's use your standard. Has Thomas been indicted or committed a crime.
We need one standard for everyone in government. Both legally and in the court of public opinion.

For some reason you believe Thomas has been influenced. But the Clinton foundation getting 100s of millions from foreign governments or the Biden family making 10s of millions from foreign governments or Hunter getting 6 figures for his art has no influence.

Well, for any other judge, except for a Justice, Thomas has committed a crime. Yes. He took millions from this man, and didn't report it.

And we're just finding out about this. Durham had several years to investigate, and ended the investigation and found nothing.

But you think democrats are all born guilty. You don't care what the facts say.

[JoeMemphis]

Wow, that's a bunch of "I've got nothin'!"

You don't care about facts at all, do you?

You are the one who claims money is fiction. So you are worried about a whole lot of fiction. So yeah - you got nothing.