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ZoWie wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 1:47 pm
The Edenville Dam has a large hole in it. It has failed. A considerable portion of it no longer exists. Guess that ends the discussion on upgrades.

The other one is still there, at reduced capacity. A temporary dam in a spillway overtopped and washed away, allowing water to spill out. It fulfilled its design aim by preventing the main dam from failing.

Someone has already put all this on Wiki. If true, it's yet another story of corporate greed and government placing business needs before safety. In other words, more work for lawyers.
It's also a story about how design parameters have changed to meet climate change. Dams now need increased slipway capacity over what they needed a 100 years ago.

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That they do. Except maybe Hoover Dam, which may be bone dry eventually, and then watch electric rates in AZ and SoCal go up.

The story of Edenville Dam, if true, is a great lesson on why we can't tolerate bureaucratic and corporate BS in such sensitive infrastructure.

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All the people they have to accommodate the corrupt business and political people in acquiring wealth without following rules or being responsible or working by allowing their homes and bridges and communities, schools, businesses be ruined if necessary.




Sams fella did a video on it that gives an idea of how far away the spill is devastating people.



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Number6 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 4:28 pm
Here's the problem with private ownership of a dam. If a person or a company owns a dam and they can't afford to maintain it then how can the government force them to bring it up to standards. If the person dies or the company goes out of business then who owns the dam and who is responsible for them. Ideally, if there is non-government ownership of a dam then the owners should be required to set aside a certain amount of money each year with the state to ensure repairs are made as well as ensuring there is insurance on the dam to cover any damages caused by the dam's failure.
well, #6...that would make way too much sense in a capitalist eCON.

it would work fine in a social democracy, like the military or other countries.
hell even fraternities or girl scouts function that sensibly, just not "our" capitalism. :roll:
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Once of the unintended consequences of the COVID-19 virus is the reduction of air pollution around the world. In the link below are before and after pictures as well as maps of European pollution.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topst ... li=BBnb7Kz
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It was dramatic in LA. Part of it was a change in the weather, but that doesn't explain it all. It also changed animal behavior somewhat. Some people have said that it proves that humans are the real virus. I don't go along with that completely. I tend to think that laissez-faire capitalism is the virus.

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ZoWie wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 2:17 pm
It was dramatic in LA. Part of it was a change in the weather, but that doesn't explain it all. It also changed animal behavior somewhat. Some people have said that it proves that humans are the real virus. I don't go along with that completely. I tend to think that laissez-faire capitalism is the virus.
About 20 miles south of Coronado, off the coast of Mexico, are the Coronado Islands. Normally, we can see them clearly after a rain clears the air but mostly they're hazy outlines. With the reduced pollution they're once again easy to see. Reminds me of the mid-60s when air pollution wasn't as big a problem as it is today.
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Here Catalina is the test. It's 26 miles out. Most of the time it's invisible.

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16 people injured following 5.1-magnitude earthquake in Iran

At least 16 injuries were reported following a 5.1-magnitude earthquake that struck north-northwest of Do Gonbadan, Iran, on Sunday morning, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

Emergency personnel was dispatched to impacted areas as soon as the earthquake hit. Gachsaran, Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad Province, Iran, are said to have been affected by the quake.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather- ... ran/745467

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Watch 'Underwater Tornado' Swirl on Seafloor

Marine researchers off the coast of Australia are shocked to see a vortex form on the seafloor.

https://weather.com/news/trending/video ... n-seafloor

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Two named storms and there are 4 days left in May. I hope they move hurricane season to May 1 one of these years, because that's the new normal.

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At last, a climate policy platform that can unite the left

After the ignominious failure of the Democratic climate change bill in President Barack Obama’s first term — the Waxman-Markey cap-and-trade bill that narrowly passed the House but never came to a vote in the Senate — what little unity there was on climate change within the Democratic coalition fractured. Everyone went their own way, furious at everyone else.

Democratic members of the House were angry at Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who was angry at the climate movement, which was angry at the big mainstream green groups, which were angry at Obama, who was reduced to addressing climate change through regulations that President Donald Trump wound up repealing.

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environm ... al-justice

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Scientists warn of "zombie fires" in the Arctic.

a "zombie fire" is a fire which continues to burn underground and then reignites on the surface after a period of time.
Dormant "zombie fires" scattered across the Arctic region—remnants of record blazes last year—may be coming to life after an unusually warm and dry Spring, scientists warned Wednesday.

In June—the hottest on record, going back 150 years—the blazes are estimated to have released 50 million tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere, equivalent to Sweden's annual emissions.

"We may see a cumulative effect of last year's fire season in the Arctic which will feed into the upcoming season, and could lead to large-scale and long-term fires across the same region once again," Parrington said.

"There has been tremendous warmth in the Arctic that will have led to a lot of drying, making the peat soils ripe to burn," Mike Waddington, an expert on watershed ecosystems at McMaster University in Canada, told AFP.
https://phys.org/news/2020-05-scientist ... c.html[url][/url]
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‪Exxon and Shell owned Aera Energy withdraws Cat Canyon Oil project in Santa Barbara County‬

Santa Barbara, CA – In a major victory for environmentalists in their battle to stop the expansion of oil drilling in California, Aera Energy, an oil corporation co-owned by Exxon and Shell, on May 27 announced that they would be withdrawing their Cat Canyon oil project in Santa Barbara.

Aera said they were “ongoing permit uncertainty with respect to oil and gas projects,” as well as “current global uncertainties in the oil market.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5 ... ign=recent

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Tropical Storm Amanda forms in Pacific, may threaten Gulf of Mexico

Tropical Storm Amanda has developed in the Pacific south of Mexico with maximum sustained winds of 40 miles per hour, according to the National Hurricane Center. Early Sunday morning, the National Hurricane Center officially called the low aTropical Storm Amanda. The system is expected to dissipate before it moves into the Gulf of Mexico next week.

The storm has a 50 percent chance of development over the next five days, according to NHC.

https://www.chron.com/local/article/Tro ... 306524.php

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60 Minutes to feature a segment on an issue that has plagued the San Diego area for decades. Millions of gallons of raw sewage have been flowing from Tijuana into the Pacific Ocean contaminating Southern California waters. The beaches of Imperial Beach, which borders Tijuana, are closed numerous times a year because the high bacterial count from the raw sewage is hazardous to people's health. The sewage affects not only Imperial beach but it makes its way up the coast to the Silver Strand State Beach and at times to the Coronado beach.

https://coronadotimes.com/news/2020/05/ ... er-to-u-s/
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i like a few travel shows, Create TV-Pbs has quite a few of them. as well there are many views
of different places in varying diff forms in film.

the one thing standing out in Every view..are bare hills, bare ground, bare mountains.
i dont see native trees anywhere. there is of course the now and then solitary pine tree
sticking up 10-20ft all by itself in the background somewhere...or that lil bitty pocket
of trees high atop on the north slope valley pocket of some hill. north slope where loggers
couldnt reach fire didnt burn everything and where snow Does pile up and thus the ground
gets some moisture so pines that survived logging and fires will grow a bit.

i was watching some show, a current as of today show, on a animal rescue in CA with countless
hills All over the background...hills now of Dirt. not a tree Anywhere. not. a. tree. anywhere.
this is Not uncommon i see it constantly in film after film...bare land that once had Forest.
this is now planetary, everywhere, nothing but bare hills, dirt.

bare hills have now become "the background" in every scene, movie, show, film, documentary,
every animal show, every science show. bare hills background.
what a loss.

kids grow up not even knowing there were TREES and FORESTS around their squats in recent time.
what a loss.
Who are these..flag-sucking halfwits fleeced fooled by stupid little rich kids, They speak
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Number6 wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 3:17 pm
60 Minutes to feature a segment on an issue that has plagued the San Diego area for decades. Millions of gallons of raw sewage have been flowing from Tijuana into the Pacific Ocean contaminating Southern California waters. The beaches of Imperial Beach, which borders Tijuana, are closed numerous times a year because the high bacterial count from the raw sewage is hazardous to people's health. The sewage affects not only Imperial beach but it makes its way up the coast to the Silver Strand State Beach and at times to the Coronado beach.

https://coronadotimes.com/news/2020/05/ ... er-to-u-s/
it has been determined that wastewater contains covid19.
this may be why so many become immune to the virus and many then also die from it.
its coming out of humans thru bowels and then into wastewater.

https://www.wired.com/story/one-way-to- ... veillance/
04.07.2020 08:00 AM
One Way to Potentially Track Covid-19? Sewage Surveillance---
How many people have been infected with the new coronavirus? A group of Bay Area researchers aims
to find out—by tracking what's in the local wastewater.

Last week, researchers at the KWR Water Research Institute in the Netherlands were the first to publicly report they had detected SARS-CoV-2 in wastewater samples. The group started testing in early February in cities across the country, before the Netherlands had identified any Covid-19 cases. As the first cases emerged and then spread in early March, the researchers found the viral concentration in sewer water went up in tandem. Other groups, including researchers at the University of Arizona and an MIT startup called Biobot, have begun collecting samples from towns and cities across the US, but neither has released data yet.
Who are these..flag-sucking halfwits fleeced fooled by stupid little rich kids, They speak
for all that is cruel stupid, They are racists hate mongers I piss down the throats of
these Nazis Im too old to worry whether they like it, Fuck them.
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rainwater wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 3:53 pm
it has been determined that wastewater contains covid19.
this may be why so many become immune to the virus and many then also die from it.
its coming out of humans thru bowels and then into wastewater.

https://www.wired.com/story/one-way-to- ... veillance/
04.07.2020 08:00 AM
One Way to Potentially Track Covid-19? Sewage Surveillance---
How many people have been infected with the new coronavirus? A group of Bay Area researchers aims
to find out—by tracking what's in the local wastewater.

Last week, researchers at the KWR Water Research Institute in the Netherlands were the first to publicly report they had detected SARS-CoV-2 in wastewater samples. The group started testing in early February in cities across the country, before the Netherlands had identified any Covid-19 cases. As the first cases emerged and then spread in early March, the researchers found the viral concentration in sewer water went up in tandem. Other groups, including researchers at the University of Arizona and an MIT startup called Biobot, have begun collecting samples from towns and cities across the US, but neither has released data yet.
then when it rains hard the sewage overflows into the waterway

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