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Cast, Crew Quit Film Project After Discovering Its Pro-life Message
A feature film about the infamous Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision is facing intense opposition after it was revealed that it is pro-life in perspective.

Nick Loeb, a producer, director, and star of the movie, told the Hollywood Reporter that actors and crew have bailed on him, and owners of filming locations have barred filming, after they learned that the movie takes a decidedly pro-life approach to the 1973 Supreme Court ruling that gave women the “right” to kill their pre-born babies.

As just one example, Loeb recalled that a crew member, a woman working as the film’s on-set electrician, stormed up to him and demanded to speak with the director over the content of the film. “When I told her I was [the director], she told me to go f*** myself,” recalled Loeb, who had hidden the true intent of the film by using the working title 1973. “Then she threw her headset on the ground and walked off. I found out later she was our electrician.”


Saw this on DU, let me fix one problem with it though - the title should NEVER include the words PRO LIFE, they are NOT that at all...

is this source a Bircher society?

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The New American (TNA) is a print magazine published twice a month by American Opinion Publishing Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of the John Birch Society (JBS), an organization which has been described as a radical right and far-right organization.[2][3][4][5] The magazine was created in 1985 from the merger of two JBS magazines: American Opinion and The Review of the News.

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Saw this on DU, let me fix one problem with it though - the title should NEVER include the words PRO LIFE, they are NOT that at all...

is this source a Bircher society?


"Pre-born" :problem:

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Daily Beast has more:

“They’re not keeping people in the loop with the script,” one crew member said. “When people finally receive the script, they’ve dropped out really fast. After people started dropping out, they said, ‘OK, don’t send people the scripts anymore.’ Instead, they’ve been changing lines and scenes before they shoot.”

Conservative actors Stephen Baldwin and Kevin Sorbo were initially cast as Supreme Court justices but left upon receiving the script. “That’s where it started as far as not sending out full scripts to actors, because they backed out and then it was a mad rush to find people to be the Supreme Court justices, and when they got on set they had no idea what they were doing. They didn’t get their lines until they got on set. They were kept in the dark,” according to a crew member.


Even some anti-abortion conservatives can't stomach it. It's obviously a very nasty right-wing hit job.

But two members of the Roe v. Wade cast have been kept secret from much of the cast and crew: Tomi Lahren and Milo Yiannopoulos. The right-wing trolls have been cast in one-scene cameos, with Lahren portraying Supreme Court Justice Blackmun’s daughter, Sally, a Planned Parenthood volunteer who challenges her father (Blackmun penned the court’s opinion on Roe v. Wade); and Yiannopoulos as Dr. David Sopher, a British abortion doctor who invented the Sopher ovum forceps and “who’s performing abortions and feels they don’t matter,” according to a crew member.

In Yiannopoulos’ yet-to-be-filmed scene, Dr. Nathanson (Loeb) witnesses Dr. Sopher (Milo)—who is described in the script as “an Anglo-Jew from India, with an unusual habit of an awkward giggle at the end of every sentence”—perform 32 abortions between 9 a.m. and 2 p.m., an alleged event Dr. Nathanson recounted in his book The Hand of God. “You blokes are missing out on a fortune over there in the colonies,” Dr. Sopher tells Dr. Nathanson after performing the procedures.

Most other cast members are not aware that Lahren and Yiannopoulos are making cameos in the film. “There aren’t even pictures up of them in the production office,” a crew member told The Daily Beast. “Somebody requested that no pictures of them be up.”


This is nothing more than a Fox News summer camp production. Obviously, they're just having friends on with no acting experience. It's how the right does things.

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I predict a poor box office take, if it gets that far. Probably like a lot of these vanity projects it'll screen out in east nowhere to cheering audiences of very scary people, and that'll be the end of it theatrically. It'll become one of those cult Internet things, preaching to the already converted.

I don't have time to look up who the money people are. Anyone know?

This sort of thing happens regularly. That bunch has been trying to take over and propagandize parts of The Industry since at least the 1990s.

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I predict a poor box office take, if it gets that far. Probably like a lot of these vanity projects it'll screen out in east nowhere to cheering audiences of very scary people, and that'll be the end of it theatrically. It'll become one of those cult Internet things, preaching to the already converted.

I don't have time to look up who the money people are. Anyone know?

This sort of thing happens regularly. That bunch has been trying to take over and propagandize parts of The Industry since at least the 1990s.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6518270/

My actor friend and ( are in this, background, several scenes.

my friend Mark and I, and we cant find it anywhere to watch, last we heard they did get a distributor but so far nothing, no trailers, nothing.

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Most distributors make drumpf look like a model citizen. It's mostly about the money going into a black hole, though. Straight counts don't happen in The Industry.

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In a new development, the Daily Beast acquired a copy of the script:

About ten pages in, however, things take a very pro-life turn. The year is 1966, and elderly Margaret Sanger, the world’s preeminent birth-control activist, is speaking to Larry Lader on her deathbed. Just before she passes, her dying words to Lader are as follows: “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,” she says. “Larry, they can’t see this coming.” The reproductive rights movement is thus framed by the film as a racist plot on a par with Hitler’s Final Solution.

This oft-repeated conservative falsehood, shared by everyone from Herman Cain to Ben Carson, stems from the willful misinterpretation of a 1939 letter Sanger wrote wherein she outlined her plan to connect with prominent leaders in the African-American community and allay their possible fears concerning family-planning clinics. Sanger wrote, “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”

While Sanger did dabble in eugenics, PolitiFact has repeatedly debunked the claims that Sanger bore great racial animosity against African-Americans. The fact-checking website cited Jean H. Baker, author of the biography Margaret Sanger: A Life of Passion, who maintained that Sanger “was far ahead of her times in terms of opposing racial segregation,” as well as author Edwin Black, who wrote in his book critical of the eugenics’ movement, War Against the Weak, that “Sanger was no racist.”

Rather, “Sanger’s correspondence shows this sentence advocates for black doctors and ministers to play leadership roles in the Negro Project to avoid misunderstandings. Lynchings and Jim Crow laws gave blacks good reason to be wary of attempts to limit the number of children they bore. In Harlem, [Sanger] hired a black doctor and social worker to quell those fears,” explained PolitiFact. “She attracted an impressive roster of supporters, including Du Bois; Mary McLeod Bethune, founder of National Council of Negro Women; and the pastor of the Abyssinian Baptist Church. Eleanor Roosevelt also backed the effort. For Sanger to launch a genocidal plot behind their backs and leave no true evidence in her numerous writings would require powers just shy of witchcraft.”

“After reading the script, you realize no, this isn’t opinion, this is lies and propaganda that they’re trying pass off within some historical context,” a crew member on the film, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told The Daily Beast. “With the Margaret Sanger quote, they twisted it and used it to discredit everything that she possibly did. It’s similar to what the right-wing media is doing now: they take one thing that someone said—or even half-said—and then they turn it into something that isn’t true in order to discredit everything they’ve ever done.”

In addition to Sanger, the villains of Roe v. Wade are undoubtedly the abortion-rights movement’s inner circle, consisting of Larry Lader, Cyril Means, Dr. Nathanson and Betty Friedan. They’re depicted as a shady cabal of rich lefty Jews who meet in exotic locations like St. Croix and the Russian Tea Room to boast about the money they’re raking in through abortions—over daiquiris or pastrami sandwiches. “It pays to fight for a good cause!” Lader exclaims at one point before the crew clinks martini glasses; at another, Dr. Nathanson sings a song that goes “There’s a fortune… in abortion,” which he’d referenced in his book Aborting America.

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Again, the situation is complicated.

Yes, Sanger unfortunately did sometimes get the support of eugenicists in the early 20th century, and there is some evidence she didn't reject their offers stridently enough. This does not seem to be because she particularly agreed with the eugenicists' views, but she was in a tough battle with religious authorities and would-be self-righteous moralists, and needed all the help she can get.

But yeah, saying she founded Planned Parenthood to "genocide" minorities is just so ridiculous, it really wouldn't require refutation - other than that people like Carson keep repeating it.

It's looking to me like this film is a hatchet job on Roe (the case itself - Norma Roe herself famously reverted and became pro-life IRL ... not that that matters) ... but what seems to be bothering the cast and crew that are fleeing the production is that the filmmakers didn't seem to be honest on what type of film they are making... an anti-abortion polemic.

That sounds very "O'Keefe"-ian to me, and typical of his methods.

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Follow the money. Who's above the line here? Where are they getting support? Is there a dummy partnership for the production that disappears afterwards to avoid liability?

What do these people have lined up in the way of distribution? Is this another vanity project by righties with money who think they'll get famous running in a bunch of podunk theaters and/or a four-walled L.A. house for Oscar qualification? Or is it for video? Or they're going to stream it somewhere and die happy thinking they've made one of those cult propaganda things?

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It's got Milo Yap and Tomi Lahren in it. I think that should tell you something right off the bat. Stacey Dash and Jon Voight are also in it. (Not as themselves. It's set in 1973.)

Alveda King is one of the producers ... btw, she is the infamous anti-gay/anti-choice "black sheep" of the King family.

You've got to read the entire dish on this. As I'm using basically almost the full article, all credit to the author at Daily Beast.

Inside ‘Roe v. Wade’: A Disturbing Anti-Abortion Film Featuring Milo Yiannopoulos and Tomi Lahren
Currently shooting in New Orleans, the secretive project—the brainchild of heir Nick Loeb, most famous for his embryo battle with ex Sofia Vergara—has been mired in chaos.
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On Tuesday, The Hollywood Reporter published a strange piece about a secretive anti-abortion movie currently filming under a “fake title” in New Orleans.

The story, told primarily from the perspective of the film’s writer-director-producers Nick Loeb and Cathy Allyn, revealed that the title of the project is Roe v. Wade; that it chronicles “the 1973 Supreme Court decision that guaranteed a woman’s right to an abortion”; that it has a “pro-life tilt”; that the conservative pundit Stacey Dash will play Mildred Jefferson, a founder of the National Right to Life Committee; and that several other outspoken conservative actors are portraying Supreme Court justices, including Jon Voight and Robert Davi, along with Corbin Bernsen, John Schneider, Richard Portnow, Wade Williams, William Forsythe, and Steve Guttenberg. Filming reportedly began on June 15 and hopes to wrap by July 15.

THR’s piece also cast the filmmakers as victims, detailing their struggles to secure filming locations and keep control of cast and crew who objected to the “PG-rated” film’s “pro-life tilt”—a particularly hot-button issue in light of Justice Anthony Kennedy’s recently-announced retirement and the precarious state of Roe v. Wade.

What the THR piece failed to disclose is why the cast and crew of Roe v. Wade have been quickly dropping out of the project, as well as the project's true nature—including several graphic scenes depicting aborted fetuses, according to several crew members who spoke to The Daily Beast on the condition of anonymity, fearing reprisals.

Roe v. Wade is currently filming under the title 1973. Crew members have told The Daily Beast that the filmmakers have misrepresented the project from Day 1, distributing a “whitewashed synopsis” to location contacts in order to convince them to film at their respective spots. “Tulane University has been the only main [location] where we started shooting there and then they found out what the movie was about and kicked us out,” one crew member said. “There are other locations where they’ve just said no. The whole attitude on the project has been, ‘Don’t tell anyone any more than you have to tell them.’”

This attitude extended to members of the supporting cast and crew, many of whom were told that the film was a vaguely pro-life project tackling the landmark Roe v. Wade Supreme Court case “from another perspective,” only to arrive on set, view the script, and be shocked by the extremity of its point of view. “When I read the first two pages, I was like what the fuck is this?” one crew member told The Daily Beast.

The film’s director and first assistant director dropped out on the first day of shooting, forcing producing partners Loeb and Allyn, who co-wrote the screenplay, to assume directorial duties. A costumer, location manager, and several other crew members abandoned the project upon learning of its severe anti-abortion content.

“They’re not keeping people in the loop with the script,” one crew member said. “When people finally receive the script, they’ve dropped out really fast. After people started dropping out, they said, ‘OK, don’t send people the scripts anymore.’ Instead, they’ve been changing lines and scenes before they shoot.”

Conservative actors Stephen Baldwin and Kevin Sorbo were initially cast as Supreme Court justices but left upon receiving the script. :rw) (*) “That’s where it started as far as not sending out full scripts to actors, because they backed out and then it was a mad rush to find people to be the Supreme Court justices, and when they got on set they had no idea what they were doing. They didn’t get their lines until they got on set. They were kept in the dark,” according to a crew member.

“It’s a low-budget film. People are taking rates that are less than they’re used to; they’re being cheap with everything,” the crew member added. “There’s Jon Voight and very strong ties to the Fox News crowd. We’ve got Joey Lawrence, Jamie Kennedy. Just looking at our cast of people, this isn’t playing out like a low-budget film. There are a lot of big names flying in and doing favors to Nick [Loeb].”

Kennedy plays abortion-rights leader Larry Lader, while Lawrence is Robert Byrn, a Fordham University law professor who fought against abortion. Other cast members include Greer Grammer (daughter of Kelsey) and Justine Wachsberger as Sarah Weddington and Linda Coffee, the attorneys representing Norma McCorvey, aka Jane Roe; Lucy Davenport as Betty Friedan; Ellery Sprayberry as Norma McCorvey; and Loeb himself as Dr. Bernard Nathanson, an abortion doctor and co-founder of National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws (NARAL) who later became an ardent anti-abortion activist. Loeb also narrates the film as Nathanson in a nod to the controversial 1984 anti-abortion film The Silent Scream.

But two members of the Roe v. Wade cast have been kept secret from much of the cast and crew: Tomi Lahren and Milo Yiannopoulos. The right-wing trolls have been cast in one-scene cameos, with Lahren portraying Supreme Court Justice Blackmun’s daughter, Sally, a Planned Parenthood volunteer who challenges her father (Blackmun penned the court’s opinion on Roe v. Wade); and Yiannopoulos as Dr. David Sopher, a British abortion doctor who invented the Sopher ovum forceps and “who’s performing abortions and feels they don’t matter,” according to a crew member.

In Yiannopoulos’ yet-to-be-filmed scene, Dr. Nathanson (Loeb) witnesses Dr. Sopher (Milo)—who is described in the script as “an Anglo-Jew from India, with an unusual habit of an awkward giggle at the end of every sentence”—perform 32 abortions between 9 a.m. and 2 p.m., an alleged event Dr. Nathanson recounted in his book The Hand of God. “You blokes are missing out on a fortune over there in the colonies,” Dr. Sopher tells Dr. Nathanson after performing the procedures.

Most other cast members are not aware that Lahren and Yiannopoulos are making cameos in the film. “There aren’t even pictures up of them in the production office,” a crew member told The Daily Beast. “Somebody requested that no pictures of them be up.”

There is also the matter of Loeb and Allyn’s directorial abilities. Crew members claim that, given that it’s their first stab at directing and they have little filmmaking background, their incompetence has left some actors frustrated.

“The first day of shooting, the actual director and the first AD quit. So then they decided that Cathy was going to be the main director, and she has very little experience, so she and Nick have no idea what they’re doing. Shots aren’t being set up right, and there have been communication problems with the cast,” the crew member recalled. “There was a moment where Joey Lawrence was trying to do a scene and Cathy said to him, ‘Now make a face like this,’ and he called her out and said, ‘That’s not what a director does. You tell me what I’m feeling and where I’m coming from, you don’t just say to make a face.’ A lot of actors are fed up with it because it’s amateur hour.”

Roe v. Wade is executive produced by Alveda King, the conservative commentator and niece of Martin Luther King Jr., but crew members say she’s been scarce. “I don’t think I’ve ever seen her on set, which is interesting,” one crew member recalled. “It’s very weird, because there’s the main people, Nick [Loeb] and Cathy [Allyn], and then now other producers are coming in out of the woodwork for money reasons. They’ve been keeping the producers very secret.”

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I know, it's almost hard to believe who's involved in producing this, let alone "acting" in it, but there it is.

And again, they are being extremely deceptive to people about even the agenda and title of the film, and who's going to cameo in it.

(*) Kevin Sorbo as a SCOTUS judge! :rw)

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The Producers:

Nicholas M. Loeb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_M._Loeb

Alveda King
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveda_King

Nick Loeb's pro-life movie is so insane, even Kevin Sorbo turned it down :rw) :rw) :lol:
https://news.avclub.com/nick-loebs-pro- ... 1827395837

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Gotcha. A trumpoid pol and a rich kid, trying to make the next Birth of a Nation.

Figures. There are always a few such people, buzzing like flies around the fringes.

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