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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:07 pm 
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In today's Republican Party, it's all about score board and preventing the wicked witch of
the east (Hillary Clinton) from being President. The days of being outraged on what it takes
to get elected are likely gone when John McCain passes, for Putin and Trump are likely
having a fine time in their summit and Trump likely is asking for more help in the mid-term
elections for preserving GOP majorities in the congress will allow Trump to withdraw US
influence from Europe which is the payoff for Putin and allow Trump to focus his efforts
on building his wall. Together Putin and Trump will work together to get Trump re-elected
in 2020.

Makes me wonder if the Democrats in the interests of balance of power should invite
the help of the Red Chinese to get their candidate elected? We owe them over $1 Trillion
in debt and with Trump, they might feel they need to work to get Democrats elected
if they want to preserve their debt.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:29 pm 
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I have said many times that when the Mueller investigation is over I will believe and endorse every word of it. Because I believe Mueller is above reproach. So far not one lefty has allowed themselves to say the same thing.

When the investigation is over and report is written, if it does not incriminate Trump if it does not say what people here want it to say. Close to every lefty will badmouth Mueller and call the report tainted and false.

Okay, glen, if you're going to believe EVERYTHING MUELLER WILL SAY, then you believe EVERYTHING HE'S SAID SO FAR.

They uncovered the emails to Trump Jr., and they said that the Russians supported Trump and wanted to help him.

The indictment today had the Russians reaching out to an unnamed person (probably Roger Stone) wanting to help the Trump campaign.

So, your insistence that the Russians weren't out to help Trump is simply false by the investigation of Robert Mueller. Once again, you believe and endorse everything Mueller says.

So, you DO believe that campaign operatives, including Trump Jr., were dealing with the Russians, and the Russians were helping Trump win.

So, that's done. You believe Mueller, so you believe that.

Now, why doesn't Trump demand Putin turn all these Russians under indictment over to the US for trails? You can't - and won't - answer that question.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:42 pm 
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BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW TODAY is that Trump asked the Russians to hack his opponent's computer systems.

But hey, that's okay, right? Perfectly normal.


No, he didn't ask the Russians to hack Hillary's email server. He just assumed the Russians had long since hacked Hillary's email server while she was in office. He was simply asking the Russians to send the missing 33,000 emails.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:54 pm 
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No, he didn't ask the Russians to hack Hillary's email server. He just assumed the Russians had long since hacked Hillary's email server while she was in office. He was simply asking the Russians to send the missing 33,000 emails.


Nifty and useful. The difference between what GoUnion said and what you said creates a slender wedge one could use to prop up one leg of a table which wobbles on an uneven floor. :)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:15 am 
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DOJ says Pres. Trump was given advance notice of indictment (appropriate as a national security measure) — and note *then* Trump denigrated the probe, praised Putin and said Putin would be his easiest meeting on this trip.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:59 am 
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No, he didn't ask the Russians to hack Hillary's email server. He just assumed the Russians had long since hacked Hillary's email server while she was in office. He was simply asking the Russians to send the missing 33,000 emails.

Ah yes. That would be a crime, too. He assumed that Russia, who was contacting him to help get him elected, had already committed espionage against a current Secretary of State, and was asking them to send the stolen materials to him to use to win the election.

Perfect example of high crimes and misdemeanors, no?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:00 am 
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BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW TODAY is that Trump asked the Russians to hack his opponent's computer systems.

But hey, that's okay, right? Perfectly normal.


We know he made a joke, whether or not he was being serious will come out in the report

How about you are you going to stand by and believe Mueller if his investigation doesnt say what you currently believe. Or will you be one of the many screaming bias and compromised.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:03 am 
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We know he made a joke, whether or not he was being serious will come out in the report

How about you are you going to stand by and believe Mueller if his investigation doesnt say what you currently believe. Or will you be one of the many screaming bias and compromised.

Since when is collusion with a foreign enemy to subvert an election a joke? And we KNOW he used stolen materials in his campaign. It's no different than if they had broken into her HQ and stole the materials. We also know his son WANTED stolen materials, and when that was uncovered, the President put out a false Press Release.

But, hey, you will defend him to the end, won't you?

You say you'll believe Mueller's final report - but you don't believe what he's said so far. Why not?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:40 am 
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We know he made a joke, whether or not he was being serious will come out in the report

How about you are you going to stand by and believe Mueller if his investigation doesnt say what you currently believe. Or will you be one of the many screaming bias and compromised.



Joking? Yah everything Trump says that's alarming is just a joke, according to you guys.

Here's a brief time line of interesting events. I doubt you'll read it though.

On June 9th, 2016, Trump Junior, Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner met in person with Russians to get dirt on Hillary Clinton. It wouldn't be difficult to believe that Trump was probaby there in some fashion as well, on speaker phone.(Trump and Hope Hicks forged a bullshit statement in 2017 on Airforce One when this story broke).

In June, 2016, Alexancer Nix, CEO of Cambridge Analytica, was in contact with Wikileaks and emailed Julian Assange seeking access to Clinton's private emails

Fact - Wikileaks is hosted in Moscow.

On June 15, 2016 - The DNC claimed it was hacked by Russian intelligence (Trump defended Russia, denied and dismissed it)

On July 22,2016 Wikileaks posted 20k stolen DNC emails.

July 25, 2016 Trump defended Russia again, stating that it was "a joke" to blame Russia.

July 26th, US Intelligence informed the WH they were confident the Russian Government hacked the DNC

On July 27th, 2016 Trump gave a news conference and said:

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“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,”


That very same day Russian Intelligence made their first attempt to break into Clinton's servers.

From the indcitment

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22. The Conspirators spearfished individuals affiliated with the Clinton Campaign throughout the summer of 2016. For example, on or about July 27, 2016, the Conspirators attempted after hours to spearfish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton's personal office. At or around the same time, they also targeted seventy-six email addresses at the domain for the Clinton Campaign.



Other interesting items: Roger Stone was in contact with Wikileaks and Guccifer 2.0 He bragged about it. He exchanged messages with Russian hackers in August, 2016. Roger Stone will probably be indicted fairly soon.

Throught the fall of 2016, Trump Junior exchanged messages with Julian Assange.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:11 am 
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But, hey, you will defend him to the end, won't you?


According to glen, he NEVER DEFENDS 45.

glen is also a liar.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:55 am 
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Read the last paragraph


Read the full text of the preceding 28 pages.

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/13/17568806/ ... -full-text

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:57 am 
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Read the full text of the preceding 28 pages.

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/13/17568806/ ... -full-text

Oh, SNAP!!! :rw) :rw) :rw) :rw) :rw) :rw) :rw) :rw) :rw)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:47 pm 
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Oh, SNAP!!! :rw) :rw) :rw) :rw) :rw) :rw) :rw) :rw) :rw)


Haha, yeah.

Folks like glen don't get that this is an indictment of Russian military and Russian intelligence people on conspiracy charges.

This entry sure is interesting.

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37. Starting in or around June 2016 and continuing through the 2016 US. presidential election,
the Conspirators used DCLeaks to release emails stolen from individuals affiliated with the Clinton
Campaign. The Conspirators also released documents they had stolen in other spearphishing
operations, including those they had conducted in 2015 that collected emails from individuals
af?liated with the Republican Party.


38. On or about June 8, 2016, and at approximately the same time that the dcleakscom website
was launched, the Conspirators created a DCLeaks Facebook page using a preexisting social media
account under the ?ctitious name ?Alice Donovan.? In addition to the DCLeaks acebook page,
the Conspirators used other social media accounts in the names of ?ctitious U.S. persons such as
?Jason Scott? and ?Richard Gingrey? to promote the DCLeaks website. The Conspirators accessed
these accounts from computers managed by POTEMKIN and his co?conspirators.

39. On or about June 8, 2016, the Conspirators created the Twitter account @dcleaksw. The
Conspirators operated the @dcleaks_ Twitter account from the same computer used for other
efforts to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election. For example, the Conspirators used
the same computer to operate the Twitter account @BaltimoreIsWhr, through which they
encouraged U.S. audiences to ?[i]oin our flash mob? opposing Clinton and to post images with the
hashtag #BlacksAgainstHillary.

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43. Between in or around June 2016 and October 2016, the Conspirators used Guccifer 2.0 to
release documents through WordPress that they had stolen from the and DNC. The
Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, also shared stolen documents with certain individuals.

a. On or about August 15, 2016, the Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, received a
request for stolen documents from a candidate for the U.S. Congress. The
Conspirators responded using the Guccifer 2.0 persona and sent the candidate
stolen documents related to the candidate?s opponent.

b. On or about August 22, 2016, the Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, transferred
approximately 2.5 gigabytes of data stolen from the to a then-registered state
lobbyist and online source of political news. The stolen data included donor records
and personal identifying information for more than 2,000 Democratic donors.

0. On or about August 22, 2016, the Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, sent a
reporter stolen documents pertaining to the Black Lives Matter movement. The
reporter responded by discussing when to release the documents and offering to
write an alticle about their release.


There is so much in here. No wonder why folks like glen prefer to focus on a single paragraph instead of reading the whole thing. Obviously, these people are never going to come to trial. Like the earlier indictment of the 13 Russian troll farm agents, this tells what is being investigated.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:43 pm 
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We know he made a joke, whether or not he was being serious will come out in the report

How about you are you going to stand by and believe Mueller if his investigation doesnt say what you currently believe. Or will you be one of the many screaming bias and compromised.


Malignant narcissists don't joke. He was most likely divulging a secret operation, the way he does. It makes him feel big when he can brag about stuff he's doing that most people don't know about.

The election was stolen by agents of a foreign power. They exploited racial and political divisions both ways. They're still at it. The current psyop, or at least the one we know about is called #WalkAway. It's using bots, compromised accounts, fake accounts, and a handful of true believers in an attempt to create the impression that the Democratic Party is divided and collapsing. Twitter just deleted something like 10 million fake accounts, and it didn't even make a dent.

People believe what they want to believe, but the truth is that we were attacked by the military of a hostile foreign power. At one time, such attacks involved guns and bombs, and lots of dead people. They were generally known as war. Very big in 1941.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:08 pm 
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Since when is collusion with a foreign enemy to subvert an election a joke? And we KNOW he used stolen materials in his campaign. It's no different than if they had broken into her HQ and stole the materials. We also know his son WANTED stolen materials, and when that was uncovered, the President put out a false Press Release.

But, hey, you will defend him to the end, won't you?

You say you'll believe Mueller's final report - but you don't believe what he's said so far. Why not?

Suddenly glen is silent.


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