The issue that will define the 2024 election

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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:08 am I knew you going to say that. Because when you can’t trash the message you trash the messenger.

Now had I used the link from Fox News you would have said it's from Fox News notva credible source.
Well done you learned your lesson well
It's funny how you'll use left-wing sources when it suits you, but then you attack US for using the same source.

It's called HYPOCRISY.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:50 am Look, you’re the one that was silent all through Trump’s Presidency.
Not really. I’m just not as obsessed with him as you. Funny though, you don’t seem bothered at all by executive over reach or ignoring the oath of office, the Constitution and the law. You just keep changing the subject to Trump. Don’t you think all Presidents should abide by the constitution? Don’t you think the law applies to all Presidents? I do. Funny how you avoid answering the question.

I guess we will see which of these two law breakers the voters prefer. Sad that’s the choices we are left with but so be it.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:28 am Not really. I’m just not as obsessed with him as you. Funny though, you don’t seem bothered at all by executive over reach or ignoring the oath of office, the Constitution and the law. You just keep changing the subject to Trump. Don’t you think all Presidents should abide by the constitution? Don’t you think the law applies to all Presidents? I do. Funny how you avoid answering the question.

I guess we will see which of these two law breakers the voters prefer. Sad that’s the choices we are left with but so be it.
Again, false equivalency.

Trump and Biden aren't equivalent. Biden has abided his oath of office. Trump never did. But go ahead and defend Trump.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:30 am Again, false equivalency.

Trump and Biden aren't equivalent. Biden has abided his oath of office. Trump never did. But go ahead and defend Trump.
Well that’s your opinion. But the voter will get to decide.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:30 am Again, false equivalency.

Trump and Biden aren't equivalent. Biden has abided his oath of office. Trump never did. But go ahead and defend Trump.
Nobody is saying they are equal. If Donald Trump is the standard by which you are going to judge democratic leaders you need a higher standard
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:35 am Nobody is saying they are equal. If Donald Trump is the standard by which you are going to judge democratic leaders you need a higher standard
Yes, you are. Always.

You just ignore Trump and manufacture outrage over Biden, who is a moderate President.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:37 am Yes, you are. Always.

You just ignore Trump and manufacture outrage over Biden, who is a moderate President.
So how often do I need to say that Trump was the worst president in our lifetime and perhaps ever to satisfy you.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:01 pm So how often do I need to say that Trump was the worst president in our lifetime and perhaps ever to satisfy you.
You’ll say that, but then you’ll always come to his defense. You’ll never specifically say anything against him.

For instance, you always go after Biden because “he called out for a politician that had died”, as if that meant he has dementia.

But yesterday, Trump said Nikki Haley was the cause of Jan. 6th because she didn’t call in any security.

And you’re silent.
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The issue that will define this election is unbalanced TV coverage.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:06 pm You’ll say that, but then you’ll always come to his defense. You’ll never specifically say anything against him.

For instance, you always go after Biden because “he called out for a politician that had died”, as if that meant he has dementia.

But yesterday, Trump said Nikki Haley was the cause of Jan. 6th because she didn’t call in any security.

And you’re silent.
I saw that clip on drudge but got busy. But, it is a good example of your double standard.
Jackie where's Jackie? Is a great example of why Biden should not be running for reelection.

As for Trump I have said many times that he isn't qualified to be president. That clip with others shows that he also is having old age mental difficulties.
Just like Biden.

Do you agree?
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:37 pm I saw that clip on drudge but got busy. But, it is a good example of your double standard.
Jackie where's Jackie? Is a great example of why Biden should not be running for reelection.

As for Trump I have said many times that he isn't qualified to be president. That clip with others shows that he also is having old age mental difficulties.
Just like Biden.

Do you agree?
Nope, the two are NOT equal - which is ALWAYS what you do when asked to say something about Trump - you equate him with Biden.

You CANNOT bring yourself to say anything bad about Trump without equating him with Biden. You do it again.
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This again shows how Haley isn’t ready for prime time. If she was a true southerner, when it was pointed out to her that Trump mixed her up with Pelosi, her only comment should have been “Bless his heart!”
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:08 pm Nope, the two are NOT equal - which is ALWAYS what you do when asked to say something about Trump - you equate him with Biden.

You CANNOT bring yourself to say anything bad about Trump without equating him with Biden. You do it again.
Bad
So saying he is the worst president in our lifetime and maybe ever.
Saying other than Sanders he is the worst possible person to be our next president
Saying he is a corrupt businessman
Are somehow not saying something against him

How about you now saying something bad about Biden. Come on big guy put on your big boy pantees and man up....for once
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:58 pm Bad
So saying he is the worst president in our lifetime and maybe ever.
Saying other than Sanders he is the worst possible person to be our next president
Saying he is a corrupt businessman
Are somehow not saying something against him

How about you now saying something bad about Biden. Come on big guy put on your big boy pantees and man up....for once
You told me he was a GENIUS businessman. Argued it for hours and hours and hours.

But you'll NEVER say something about Trump without deflecting to Biden.

You sure can't just say something about Trump thinking Haley is Pelosi. He's melting down in front of our eyes, but you'll always defend him and deflect for him.
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gounion wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:08 pm You told me he was a GENIUS businessman. Argued it for hours and hours and hours.

But you'll NEVER say something about Trump without deflecting to Biden.

You sure can't just say something about Trump thinking Haley is Pelosi. He's melting down in front of our eyes, but you'll always defend him and deflect for him.
Yes I did then shortly after said I should have said a successful businessman. But you being a liar you conveniently leave that part out
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:53 pm Yes I did then shortly after said I should have said a successful businessman. But you being a liar you conveniently leave that part out
But he isn't a successful businessman either, now, is he? He's nothing more than a scam and fraud artist.
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gounion wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:44 am But he isn't a successful businessman either, now, is he? He's nothing more than a scam and fraud artist.
So a man that turns 100mil into over a billion isn't successful.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:42 pm So a man that turns 100mil into over a billion isn't successful.
Same as a “successful” heroin dealer. Trump is a fraud, and has perpetuated MANY frauds, plus taking HOW MANY bankruptcies? Have you figured in all the money in debt that he was forgiven for?

I said it before and I’ll say it again - you can’t help yourself, you ALWAYS have to come to Trump’s defense.
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gounion wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:44 pm Same as a “successful” heroin dealer. Trump is a fraud, and has perpetuated MANY frauds, plus taking HOW MANY bankruptcies? Have you figured in all the money in debt that he was forgiven for?

I said it before and I’ll say it again - you can’t help yourself, you ALWAYS have to come to Trump’s defense.
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So people who use tax laws and bank laws to their advantage are frauds.
Look Trump is a scammer and many of his business have been highly suspect.
But, that doesn't change the fact that he was a successful businessman and should have stuck with real estate.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:36 pm 9

So people who use tax laws and bank laws to their advantage are frauds.
Look Trump is a scammer and many of his business have been highly suspect.
But, that doesn't change the fact that he was a successful businessman and should have stuck with real estate.
He was a scammer in real estate too. Hell, when you can’t even tell the truth about the square footage of what you’re selling, Glenn….


YOU’RE A SCAMMER AND A FRAUDSTER.

And he was a scam artist in his fake “university” and bullshit selling of Trump crappy “steaks” and his airline and his football team.

But you’ll always come to Trump’s defense, won’t you?
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gounion wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:39 pm He was a scammer in real estate too. Hell, when you can’t even tell the truth about the square footage of what you’re selling, Glenn….


YOU’RE A SCAMMER AND A FRAUDSTER.

And he was a scam artist in his fake “university” and bullshit selling of Trump crappy “steaks” and his airline and his football team.

But you’ll always come to Trump’s defense, won’t
So you are saying that when he was getting citizenship awards from liberal political organizations those democrats were equally corrupt by knowingly ignoring his corruption for personal gain.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:43 pm So you are saying that when he was getting citizenship awards from liberal political organizations those democrats were equally corrupt by knowingly ignoring his corruption for personal gain.
Some people buy this awards.

You’ll do anything to defend Trump, won’t you?
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gounion wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:54 pm Some people buy this awards.

You’ll do anything to defend Trump, won’t you?

On this subject yes. He is a corrupt person a terrible president but was a successful businessman.
As I said before some of his business were scams like the university.
The bankruptcies are meaningless. Those rules are in place in order to encourage people to take chances.
Again he should have stuck with real estate and yes I am going to normalize him. I doubt he did anything that every other real estate developer on that level isn't doing.
As for the awards he was the same guy then as now and those organizations knew it.

Let's talk about football
He destroyed the USFL by design thinking his team was going to get picked up by the NFL. Which is when I started to dislike Trump. I also remember back in the Ed Schultz day I was the only one on the site anti Trump.

Side bar my pucks are now 10-1 not bad for a person who doesn't know what he is doing.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:35 pm On this subject yes. He is a corrupt person a terrible president but was a successful businessman.
As I said before some of his business were scams like the university.
The bankruptcies are meaningless. Those rules are in place in order to encourage people to take chances.
Again he should have stuck with real estate and yes I am going to normalize him. I doubt he did anything that every other real estate developer on that level isn't doing.
As for the awards he was the same guy then as now and those organizations knew it.

Let's talk about football
He destroyed the USFL by design thinking his team was going to get picked up by the NFL. Which is when I started to dislike Trump. I also remember back in the Ed Schultz day I was the only one on the site anti Trump.

Side bar my pucks are now 10-1 not bad for a person who doesn't know what he is doing.
You cherry pick who you're going to pick, and you parrot the experts.

As for Trump, I'm sorry, but when someone goes bankrupt over and over, I don't call that successful. But you keep defending him. And I think you should add the money that they didn't have to pay back when talking about how much money they made.

And Trump inflates how much money he's made, but you believe him, don't you?

But keep defending him.

And no, inflating square footage is not something that an honest businessman does. Period.
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gounion wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:38 pm You cherry pick who you're going to pick, and you parrot the experts.

As for Trump, I'm sorry, but when someone goes bankrupt over and over, I don't call that successful. But you keep defending him. And I think you should add the money that they didn't have to pay back when talking about how much money they made.

And Trump inflates how much money he's made, but you believe him, don't you?

But keep defending him.

And no, inflating square footage is not something that an honest businessman does. Period.
You remind me of the business professor on Back to School.
I guarantee you that every successful developer especially on his level do the exact same thing.
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