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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:19 pm 
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This is what happens when you elect Republicans to run a nation. Shameful. Via Politico:

Canadians who work in the marijuana industry — and those who invest in the booming pot sector — risk a lifetime ban on travel to the U.S., according to a senior official overseeing U.S border operations.

As Canada prepares to become the world’s only major industrialized nation to legalize retail marijuana sales starting Oct. 17, the Canadian cannabis sector is projected to generate billions of dollars of revenue in coming years and Canadians have flocked to take jobs and buy stocks in the burgeoning industry. But the move has potential to disrupt border crossings between the U.S. and Canada for travelers who run afoul of American drug laws, even if their activities are legal in Canada.

The U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency will continue to apply long-standing U.S. federal laws and regulations that treat marijuana as a banned substance — and participants in the cannabis industry as drug traffickers — who are inadmissible into the U.S. Although some U.S. states have eased marijuana laws, the U.S. continues to maintain a federal prohibition that applies at the border, said Todd Owen, executive assistant commissioner for the Office of Field Operations, who gave POLITICO a detailed preview of how CBP will apply longstanding rules.

Here’s exactly how it would work at the border: CBP officials are not planning to go out of their way to interrogate every Canadian traveler about marijuana use. However, other factors may cause them to raise the topic.

“Our officers are not going to be asking everyone whether they have used marijuana, but if other questions lead there — or if there is a smell coming from the car, they might ask,” Owen said. Likewise, marijuana residue, which can linger for weeks inside a car, could be detected by CBP inspection dogs and lead to further questioning, he noted. If asked about past drug use, travelers should not lie, he said. “If you lie about it, that’s fraud and misrepresentation, which carries a lifetime ban,” Owen said.

If a traveler admits to past use of any illegal drugs, including marijuana, the traveler will be found to be inadmissible into the United States. CBP typically will allow them the opportunity to “voluntary withdraw” from the border — or face an “expedited removal.” Whether or not the traveler enters the U.S., a record will be kept by CBP and that traveler will not be allowed to return to the U.S. The traveler will have the opportunity to apply for a waiver from a lifetime ban, which costs U.S. $585 and requires several months to process. The waivers are issued at the discretion of CBP.

CBP agents commonly ask travelers what they do for a living. Canadians who work in the marijuana industry will not be permitted to enter the U.S. “If you work for the industry, that is grounds for inadmissibility,” Owen said.

Likewise, investors in marijuana companies are considered inadmissible. “We don’t recognize that as a legal business,” Owen said. Already, marijuana investors from other countries, such as Israel, have been denied entry into the U.S., he noted. CBP did not specify any minimum level of investment that could trigger a ban.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:41 pm 
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Autocratic, militant Trumped up bullshit.

Travelers from BC into WA being subjected to these Federal rules, when the State of WA has legalized pot, is utterly asinine.

The entire negative outlook on pot is so completely ridiculous, when alcohol is so much worse and when pot has medicinal value.

This boils down to keeping revenue streams alive for law enforcement thru fines and jailing people for minor possession to keep the Republican owned private prison system stocked with slaves.

How much stock does Jeffry Beauregard Sessions have in the private prison system? What about Trump?

These idiots would make a killing in the pot trade which Canada is set to do.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:42 pm 
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Once again the U.S. interfers into the internal of Foreign Country.

It nevers seems to got the way we want.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:42 pm 
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How dare Canada act as if it has a right to decide what laws it can pass.

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So what about Canadian politicians involved in legislation? Are they banned? What about folks working for government run dispensaries?

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So what will happen if the CPB asks the same questions of Americans returning to the U.S. from Canada and they say they have used marijuana or are in marijuana business? Will these Americans be refused entry to the U.S.?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:57 pm 
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So what will happen if the CPB asks the same questions of Americans returning to the U.S. from Canada and they say they have used marijuana or are in marijuana business? Will these Americans be refused entry to the U.S.?

good question. its directly aimed at travelers from US. and the states who have gone MM and legal
all except for ideeho which hasnt done shit.
http://norml.org/states

there are those who work across both sides of the border, who go back n forth all the time.
will they be refused return.

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This is what happens when you elect Republicans to run a nation. Shameful. Via Politico:

Canadians who work in the marijuana industry — and those who invest in the booming pot sector — risk a lifetime ban on travel to the U.S., according to a senior official overseeing U.S border operations.

As Canada prepares to become the world’s only major industrialized nation to legalize retail marijuana sales starting Oct. 17, the Canadian cannabis sector is projected to generate billions of dollars of revenue in coming years and Canadians have flocked to take jobs and buy stocks in the burgeoning industry. But the move has potential to disrupt border crossings between the U.S. and Canada for travelers who run afoul of American drug laws, even if their activities are legal in Canada.

The U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency will continue to apply long-standing U.S. federal laws and regulations that treat marijuana as a banned substance — and participants in the cannabis industry as drug traffickers — who are inadmissible into the U.S. Although some U.S. states have eased marijuana laws, the U.S. continues to maintain a federal prohibition that applies at the border, said Todd Owen, executive assistant commissioner for the Office of Field Operations, who gave POLITICO a detailed preview of how CBP will apply longstanding rules.

Here’s exactly how it would work at the border: CBP officials are not planning to go out of their way to interrogate every Canadian traveler about marijuana use. However, other factors may cause them to raise the topic.

“Our officers are not going to be asking everyone whether they have used marijuana, but if other questions lead there — or if there is a smell coming from the car, they might ask,” Owen said. Likewise, marijuana residue, which can linger for weeks inside a car, could be detected by CBP inspection dogs and lead to further questioning, he noted. If asked about past drug use, travelers should not lie, he said. “If you lie about it, that’s fraud and misrepresentation, which carries a lifetime ban,” Owen said.

If a traveler admits to past use of any illegal drugs, including marijuana, the traveler will be found to be inadmissible into the United States. CBP typically will allow them the opportunity to “voluntary withdraw” from the border — or face an “expedited removal.” Whether or not the traveler enters the U.S., a record will be kept by CBP and that traveler will not be allowed to return to the U.S. The traveler will have the opportunity to apply for a waiver from a lifetime ban, which costs U.S. $585 and requires several months to process. The waivers are issued at the discretion of CBP.

CBP agents commonly ask travelers what they do for a living. Canadians who work in the marijuana industry will not be permitted to enter the U.S. “If you work for the industry, that is grounds for inadmissibility,” Owen said.

Likewise, investors in marijuana companies are considered inadmissible. “We don’t recognize that as a legal business,” Owen said. Already, marijuana investors from other countries, such as Israel, have been denied entry into the U.S., he noted. CBP did not specify any minimum level of investment that could trigger a ban.


I see and understand the injustice, the same injustice which has always been insofar as my years. Pot's not quite legal yet. Which might sound like a statement built upon the principle of it not quite being about pregnancy. It is or it isn't, and it isn't right now because it is not quite legal yet.

I support it being legal. People who feel otherwise are.

I don't understand the angst. A traveler is not all that likely to be found who is going to tell those border guards they work in the marijuana industry. They'll say they're haberdashers, that they sell notions.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:33 pm 
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Trump is a fucking malignant narcissist. And as such as pointed out in Woodward's book, he doesn't understand, or care to develop an understanding of how trade, tarrifs, and general courtesy all revolve around our relationships with our allies. Is Canada an ally against the Russians? Of course they are. Will they be if Trump keeps fucking with them over tarrifs and this sort of petty shit? I wouldn't bet on it.

But we know that all through his life, the prime motivational factor in Trump's life has been when the next opportunity to fuck with some person or group will emerge. Nothing else is as important to Donald Trump. He has never cared if anybody will cooperate with him. And if he wants cooperation he gets it through his weaponizing of the fucked up US legal system. It wont work with sovereign nations.

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