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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:57 pm 
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Not only do all these cute little personal assistants get everything, but yes, the promised privacy is an illusion. And yes, sometimes you get a little surprise about someone else when you ask for your own stuff.

If I had a little cannon like that guy on twitter, now would be a good time to fire it, the way he does when ze geeg she ees ooop on the drumpf oligarchs.

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When a person using Amazon.com's voice assistant in Germany requested to listen to an archive of his recordings, he got much more than he was expecting.

Along with receiving his own audio history captured by a home microphone, the man also gained access to 1,700 audio files from a person he did not know.

Amazon sent the man a link that contained a stranger's recordings, allowing him to listen to another man speaking inside of his home with a female companion, Reuters reported Tuesday, citing a German trade magazine, c't.

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Earlier this year, a family in Portland, Ore., discovered that its Alexa-powered Echo device had recorded their private conversation and sent it to a random person in their contacts list. The disturbing event, first reported by Washington state's KIRO 7, went viral, highlighting the risks of keeping an always-on, Internet-connected microphone in someone's most intimate spaces.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:26 pm 
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I think bird's theorem ""we the people" are stupid" applies. Technology can be good but most people don't have a clue as to what it can really or actually do. We (I include myself) can operate technology but how that technology works is as mysterious has how a magician does his tricks. Oh, we think we know how the trick was done but in reality we don't. The closest thing to a voice assistant I have is the Google and Siri voice recognition on my Android and iPad but they're not operating 24/7.

We think we know how Alexa and other "voice" assistants work but what they actually do is something else just as we think FaceBook is social media/networking service but in fact it is a data-mining company selling its users personal information anyone who wants to buy it. I won't be surprised to learn the companies that operate voice assistant products are data-mining as well. At some point, someone is going to figure out how to hack the archive banks of recordings and use it for extortion.

People are going to have to consider how much of their privacy they're willing to give up to have technology.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:02 pm 
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Here's what amazes me:

There was a time, not long ago, when Americans hated surveillance. The ones with the most sensitive discussions paid big bucks to consultants who checked the premises for bugging devices.

Now, Americans can't wait to get it.

Some even telemeter their vital signs 24/7 to insurance companies to get a trivial price break on health coverage. Others draw pretty pictures on maps with their real-time locations just for fun.

Huh? I missed something here.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:08 pm 
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Some live their lives on a webcam, showing the world their lives constantly. I think the ones who are not showing nudity and/or sex acts and are not young females are not making lots of money at it, but I think they exist too.

Not only have we lost our aversion to being watched, some want to live their lives constantly being watched. Well, that would not be me, but they clearly exist.

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Here's what amazes me:

There was a time, not long ago, when Americans hated surveillance. The ones with the most sensitive discussions paid big bucks to consultants who checked the premises for bugging devices.

Now, Americans can't wait to get it.

Some even telemeter their vital signs 24/7 to insurance companies to get a trivial price break on health coverage. Others draw pretty pictures on maps with their real-time locations just for fun.

Huh? I missed something here.

I just, last night, finished reading a SF novel by Ben Bova called The Light of Other Days in which Wormhole cameras (called Wormcams) can allow anyone view anyone, anywhere in the world in real-time without the person knowing their being viewed. After this became common, people became accustomed to the idea of being watched and accepted it as "normal." There were others who defied the Wormcams by using smart-shields; specially designed clothing that would make a person nearly invisible and making it almost impossible for the Wormcams to locate/follow them. Others gave a proverbial middle finger to the Wormcams by becoming nudists.

Technology has seduced us, to some extent, into becoming isolated from other people. We don't need face-to-face interactions when a cellphone call, email, or text message will do. We become more dependent upon our technology to do mundane things like shopping (internet ordering), food delivery, entertainment via cable/satellite, etc... The more we rely on technology the more of our privacy we give up to the companies who monitor how we use the technology. We do it without thinking as when we update software we automatically click on the "accept" button of the end user agreement not knowing what rights we are agreeing to or giving up.

What people need to understand is companies that make products like voice assistants won't make money just off the device; they need a way establish a revenue stream and that stream is selling the data the devices collects on its users.

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Technology has seduced us, to some extent, into becoming isolated from other people. We don't need face-to-face interactions when a cellphone call, email, or text message will do. We become more dependent upon our technology to do mundane things like shopping (internet ordering), food delivery, entertainment via cable/satellite, etc... The more we rely on technology the more of our privacy we give up to the companies who monitor...

im so sick of text msgs that waste my time and energy. soon humans will lose the ability
of "voice" since they dont use it, instead text a few letters and view that as 'communication'
when it is Not. it is typing, that is all. typing. youve mastered typing.
typing, which is taking the place of relationships both verbal and physical.

..you can stream porn 24/7/365 who cares about the wife who bores compared to some video.
who cares about the husband when free porn isnt as messy.

tech is creating populations that dont do anything but sit in cushy chairs and wait for
shit to come to them as tho that is the ultimate "joy" of being alive. having crap
delivered to you in a new box made from a dead tree. oh joy..

expecting, waiting on current civilizations to get their shit together takes a long unending time, thousands of years and look at today.
im not sure any civilization has had its shit together, all ending in death murder mass whackings
deforestation and ruin.

humans. almost a waste of time.
humans destroy what was created and, today, make money doing it.
...and that doesnt last either.

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the other good one now is...cop cam.
small box, matchbook size box, that can hide anywhere.
you have no idea now whether your neighbor is filming you.
you can expect it in a store. do i expect it in neighbors outhouse?

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Feh, these old 19th century canards, again.

Texting doesn't take the place of anything, it's another form of communication. For people with mobility, motor, and communications barriers, just text messaging alone can open up their worlds like any other assistive technologies.

It can also enhance offline relationships, which is what is designed to do.

Same for delivery services. They're very helpful for people with disabilities.

Oh heavens to murgatroid, the car has taken the place of the horse and buggy, making it possible to go across town in an hour instead of 12. :problem:

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Not only do all these cute little personal assistants get everything, but yes, the promised privacy is an illusion. And yes, sometimes you get a little surprise about someone else when you ask for your own stuff.


That's the issue here. And, as we know, not just with Alexa/Google.

Our Cellphones Aren’t Safe - NYT opnion

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America’s cellular network is as vital to society as the highway system and power grids. Vulnerabilities in the mobile phone infrastructure threaten not only personal privacy and security, but also the country’s. According to intelligence reports, spies are eavesdropping on President Trump’s cellphone conversations and using fake cellular towers in Washington to intercept phone calls. Cellular communication infrastructure, the system at the heart of modern communication, commerce and governance, is woefully insecure. And we are doing nothing to fix it.

This should be at the top of our cybersecurity agenda, yet policymakers and industry leaders have been nearly silent on the issue. While government officials are looking the other way, an increasing number of companies are selling products that allow buyers to take advantage of these vulnerabilities.

Spying tools, which are becoming increasingly affordable, include cell-site simulators (commonly known by the brand name Stingray), which trick cellphones into connecting with them without the cellphone owners’ knowledge. Sophisticated programs can exploit vulnerabilities in the backbone of the global telephone system (known as Signaling System 7, or SS7) to track mobile users, intercept calls and text messages, and disrupt mobile communications.

These attacks have real financial consequences. In 2017, for example, criminals took advantage of SS7 weaknesses to carry out financial fraud by redirecting and intercepting text messages containing one-time passwords for bank customers in Germany. The criminals then used the passwords to steal money from the victims’ accounts.


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That's the issue here. And, as we know, not just with Alexa/Google.

Our Cellphones Aren’t Safe - NYT opnion



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not secure because our security is not based in our humanity rather it is based in breaking it down and destroying it so it can be king and unopposed..

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the other good one now is...cop cam.
small box, matchbook size box, that can hide anywhere.
you have no idea now whether your neighbor is filming you.
you can expect it in a store. do i expect it in neighbors outhouse?


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That's a drone camera with transmitter which is a lot larger in the photo that it really is, it costs about $12. The antenna is larger than the camera. Hook that up to a 5V battery and it will send video to an i-phone, or android phone within about a half mile. People who use them have a phone holder on their controller so they can see what the drone sees while they are flying it.

Anyone could buy them and use them with or without a drone.


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Cameras in general have become tiny. Most of what you see in those little domes at the store is the pan/tilt mechanism. You see reference to 4 millimeter focal length. Almost scary.

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