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Black immigrant rights groups demand answers regarding death of Cameroon man under ICE watch - Kos
A coalition of black immigrant rights advocacy groups are condemning the recent death of Nebane Abienwi while in federal immigration detention, demanding to know the circumstances that led to the 37-year-old asylum-seeker from Cameroon suffering a brain hemorrhage and then dying while under U.S. watch. “The death is the first in ICE custody in the new fiscal year,” BuzzFeed News reported at the time.

Abienwi had been in the agency’s custody since Sept. 19, after arriving at the San Ysidro Port of Entry on Sept. 5. While ICE would not confirm it, The Los Angeles Times reported, he “was probably an asylum seeker, advocates said,” with Mexico seeing an increase in asylum-seekers from Cameroon in recent years. Abienwi had been jailed at the Otay Mesa Detention Center, operated by private prison profiteer CoreCivic, when he was rushed to a hospital. “The medical staff identified the cause of death as brain death secondary to basal ganglia hemorrhage,” ICE claimed in a statement.

The groups, which include the Cameroon American Council, the Partnership for the Advancement of New Americans, the Black Alliance for Just Immigration, the Black LGBTQIA+ Migrant Project, the Black Immigrant Collective, and the African Public Affairs Committee, noted that the facility where Abienwi had been jailed already has a history of abuse against detainees—including the use of solitary confinement, which is torture—as well as claims of serious medical neglect.

“Black immigrants, in particular, report horrific experiences of anti-blackness, abuse, and harassment while in detention,” the Black Alliance for Just Immigration said. “We believe his death would not have occurred had he not been detained,” said Genevieve Jones-Wright of the Partnership for the Advancement of New Americans. “What was the incident that gave way to him having a brain hemorrhage?”

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ICE Moved 700 Women Out Of A Detention Center And Won’t Tell Lawyers Where They Are - HP
The inability to track these immigrants could have fatal consequences if their health continues to deteriorate, according to Andrea Meza, the director of family detention services at RAICES.

“I’m really fearful that their conditions could worsen,” Meza said. “I don’t want them to be in another ICE press release about death in detention.”

The situation highlights a common problem for migrants in ICE custody: They can be transferred between facilities with little notice and yet their new locations are not promptly updated in the system. If their existing lawyers and family members can’t find them, they may have to go through their cases without legal representation, especially in remote areas where legal counsel is sparse. And those with serious health issues could die if advocates who don’t know where their clients were transferred are unable to fight for their right to medical treatment.

ICE did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

HuffPost reported that while at Karnes, some of the immigrants were allegedly being denied lifesaving care, such as cancer and HIV treatment, and that suicidal patients were not receiving psychiatric counseling. One woman with cancer in her uterus said she had not received medical treatment for more than two months. Another immigrant, who is HIV positive, said she was not getting her medication or being evaluated by a doctor, even as her symptoms worsened. A doctor told HuffPost that anyone with a serious physical illness requires constant medical visits to stop their disease from rapidly progressing.

The lack of medical care in immigrant detention facilities is well-established. Seven immigrants have died in ICE detention centers this year, and six minors have died in Border Patrol centers, in many cases because they didn’t receive proper medical help for their illnesses.

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Ice is trash. But there are ways out.

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We refuse to wait and see what happens with our nation’s immigration system — we know from our own history what happens next. Many of our ancestors narrowly escaped from conditions like what we are seeing today in detention centers and immigrant communities around the country. We are putting our bodies on the line because when we say never again, we mean never again for anyone.
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ICE confirms another person has died on its watch, the second death this month

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials on Wednesday confirmed the Tuesday death of Roylan Hernandez-Diaz, a 43-year-old Cuban man, while in their custody at the Richwood Correctional Center in Louisiana. ”The preliminary cause of death appears to be self-inflicted strangulation; however, the case is currently under investigation.”

This is the second person to die while in ICE custody since the start of the month, when Nebane Abienwi, a 37-year-old man from Cameroon, suffered a brain hemorrhage and died after being detained at the Otay Mesa Detention Center in California.

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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/ice-custody-death-seven-hour-wait - Buzzfeed News
A detention center holding immigrant detainees waited more than seven hours to transfer an ailing 37-year-old Mexican man to a hospital, where he died from bleeding in his brain, according to internal documents obtained by BuzzFeed News that reveal previously undisclosed details about the death and raise new questions about the man’s treatment.

“In the absence of ICE providing an explanation, a seven-hour delay in responding to this patient does not seem consistent with adequate care,” said Marc Stern, a public health expert and faculty member at the University of Washington. “This may have been a preventable death.”

The details uncovered by BuzzFeed News provide a rare glimpse of the inner workings of the detention centers contracted by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) at a time when the agency is under fire from Democrats for its record-setting expansion of the system, which relies primarily on private and local county jails. By September, ICE was detaining around 55,000 people — an unprecedented number that has since dropped to just over 50,000 in recent days.

The undocumented immigrant man in ICE custody at the McHenry County Adult Correctional Facility in Illinois, Roberto Rodriguez-Espinoza, died on Sep. 10 at a local hospital where doctors treating him issued a preliminary cause of death as a subdural hematoma — the eighth death of the last fiscal year ending on Sept. 30.

When ICE officials reported the death publicly two days later to Congressional officials and the media, they noted that Rodriguez-Espinoza had indicated alcohol abuse and explained why he was taken to a hospital: “On Sept. 7, facility staff observed Rodriguez-Espinoza acting confused and the facility’s physician ordered Rodriguez-Espinoza transported to the Northwestern Medicine Woodstock Hospital emergency room in Woodstock, Illinois, for further evaluation due to his confusion and history of alcohol consumption.”

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ICE Is Deporting My Mother. She's Recovering from Stage 4 Cancer - Vice
This summer, police in Gwinnett County, Georgia, pulled over Cristian Padilla Romero's mother Tania for failure to yield while making a left turn. She was arrested for driving without a license, and then, because she is undocumented, she was turned over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Now, 10 years after a judge first ordered Tania removed from the United States, she is on the verge of being deported back to Honduras.

Since August, Tania has been held at Irwin County Detention Center in south Georgia, a for-profit facility about 200 miles south of Atlanta where, according to a 2017 report from Project South , detainees are paid $1 for a day's work. The family is circulating a petition to get their mother, who is recovering from stage 4 cancer, released from detention.

This is Cristian's story.

Diagnosis
My mother finished—or, stopped receiving—chemo radiation in late summer 2017. She was on medication after that. It was an oral cancer. I believe when it was first diagnosed in late December 2016, it was at stage 2. It rapidly grew to stage 4 within weeks if not a month or so, which is what prompted the immediate surgery and the therapy. That went on until late summer of the next year.

Before her chemo radiation, she had a major surgery around her neck, which basically cut almost 180 degrees from one side of the back of her neck to the other side, all the way around her neck. And parts of her mouth. And because she needed therapy soon after, her scars weren't able to heal, and were probably worsened. Since then she's lost full mobility over her mouth and jaw. She can't open her mouth as much as she could before. That was very frustrating at first for her, it was very painful. Now the pain has mostly gone away but the full mobility has not.

She's still not fully recovered in terms of her general health. She's lost a lot of weight. A lot of her strength as well. She still needs to be resting most of the time.

She did miss an appointment in September [with her oncologist]. That was one of the main justifications earlier on when we filed the stay of removal. We argued that she had humanitarian reasons to be released, to see her doctor. It was rejected.

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[Her removal order] is being enforced now because she was arrested and handed over to ICE. This is a fundamental shift in politics, from the Obama emphasis on criminals and not targeting non-criminal immigrants. The county where she was arrested does have an agreement with ICE to hold people. Atlanta proper has a system in place where the local police doesn't work with ICE, but the surrounding counties, which are very conservative, do have that. That's the main reason why she was held. We paid her bail to try to get her out, but she was put on hold and turned over to ICE.


ICE is now at a point where anyone it comes across, it's removing, or attempts to remove. This is the difference between an Obama-era policy, where a lot of people could be arrested for no driver's license, but ICE wouldn't necessarily seek them out if they didn't have a criminal record—although it still happened—whereas now it's anybody who's caught.
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After ICE Came to Morton, Mississippi - New Yorker
orton, Mississippi, a quiet city of a few thousand residents, lies around forty miles east of Jackson, on the edge of Bienville National Forest. Tito Echiburu, the senior vice-president of finance at the Bank of Morton, has lived in the town since 1973. In the nineteen-sixties, he was a top junior tennis player in Chile. He got a scholarship to play at Mississippi State University, where he ended up studying business and accounting. A few years after graduating, he took a job as a tennis pro at a country club in Jackson, where he met John Rogers, whose father founded B. C. Rogers Poultry, one of several companies that operated chicken-processing plants in and around Morton. When John took over the company, after his father’s death, he asked Echiburu, who had returned to Chile, to become the company’s chief financial officer. Echiburu’s young family moved back to Mississippi, and they became, he believes, “the first Hispanic family” in Morton. Today, around one in four residents of the town speaks Spanish or a language indigenous to Central or South America.

B. C. Rogers began hiring Latino immigrants to work in its plants in the late seventies, but few of those early hires stuck around. In the early nineties, John Rogers saw a TV news report about high unemployment among Latinos in Miami and decided to recruit them to Morton, Echiburu said. The company set up a small office in the Miami area, and Rogers sent Echiburu there as a company representative. “The only reason he asked me was because I spoke the language,” Echiburu said. “I wasn’t in human resources.” The company also began running Spanish-language newspaper ads in Florida and Texas. They called the recruitment effort the Hispanic Project.

B. C. Rogers spent millions transporting workers to central Mississippi and housing them there, Echiburu said. The Hispanic Project only lasted a few years; B. C. Rogers was sold to Koch Foods, one of the country’s largest poultry-processing and distribution companies, in the late nineties, and Echiburu left soon afterward for his job at the bank. But, in the meantime, the effort brought thousands of workers to chicken plants in Morton, first from Cuba and later from Mexico, Guatemala, and elsewhere. Echiburu’s daughter, Ana Maria Tyrrell, is thirty-six and now lives in Chicago. When these workers first started arriving, other people in town thought they were “part of our family,” she told me. Most of those who came did not stay in town for good, but word spread about the work that could be found there. “That opened the door for Hispanics,” Echiburu said. “They kept coming on their own, telling others to come.” Eventually, immigrants began to settle down in Morton, and in the surrounding towns—Forest, Canton, Carthage, Pelahatchie—that also have chicken plants.

“All of Central America is here,” a seventeen-year-old, whom I’ll call Danny, told me in August, standing in the parking lot of a plant owned by P H Food, where he used to work. (The names of undocumented Morton residents have been changed throughout this piece, to allow them to speak freely.) Danny’s family moved to Morton from Guatemala about five years ago. His mother’s sister came first. “She was here and said it was a really calm place,” Danny said. “That’s why we came. And for the work.” Danny was used to working. In Guatemala, he started shining shoes for eight dollars a day when he was eight years old. When they arrived in Morton, his parents got jobs working the morning shift at the P H Food plant, and Danny took eight-hour shifts after school, earning two dollars for every forty pounds of chicken he chopped. “At least half of us were minors,” he said, of his co-workers. “Most people had no papers. But the people who hired us didn’t care back then.”

Danny spoke to me in Spanish, one of the four languages he uses, along with English, which he’s still working on, and two indigenous dialects. He wore a baseball cap, backward, and a long-sleeved T-shirt that read “every man dies not every man truly lives!” A light rain was falling. Danny said that he gave the money he made at the plant to his parents, and they gave some of it back to him as an allowance. He used it to buy clothes, dye his hair, pay for gas, go on dates. Lately, he’d been trying to write poetry, in English, for a girl at school he liked.
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The Congressional Hispanic Caucus Installed a Día de Muertos Altar for Immigrants and Asylum Seekers Who Died in US Custody - Remezcla
or the first time, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus (CHC) has installed a Día de Muertos altar in the U.S. Capitol Building — and they’ve dedicated it to the immigrants and asylum seekers who died while in federal custody or journeying to the country.

“We are proud that our altar stands in the U.S. Capitol this week so we can collectively uplift each of their stories and remember the brave folks who sought a better life in our country,” he added,” said CHC Chairman Rep. Joaquín Castro (D-Texas).

According to The Hill, the altar includes the photos of 14 people.

This year alone, eight adults have died in Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention centers. Over the last week, two people passed away while in Border Patrol custody in the state of Arizona.

“I think it’s sad that we have to do this,” Rep. Nanette Diaz Barragán (D-Calif.) said of building altars for migrants who died, often avoidably, in the hands of the country’s immigration system. “We have to continue to honor them and their memory to remind ourselves of the fight that we have now and need to continue to forge ahead. But we shouldn’t have to do ofrendas for migrants that are dying on U.S. soil.”

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This has gone too far.

Well-known Selena tribute artist Karol Posadas is being held by ICE at a detention center in Texas, according to her manager.

Posadas, who fronts the band Anything for Salinas, was stopped Saturday by immigration at Valley International Airport in Harlingen and is being kept at a detention facility in El Valle, according to a GoFundMe page set up by a friend to help with legal fees.

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Seems to me ICE has pretty much been trash all along. So when we are rid of Trump, whenever that might be, and we have someone in the White House with a more acceptable social justice point of view, like Mr. Obama for instance, will ICE then swiftly be not trash?

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ap215 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:32 am wrote:This has gone too far.

Well-known Selena tribute artist Karol Posadas is being held by ICE at a detention center in Texas, according to her manager.

Posadas, who fronts the band Anything for Salinas, was stopped Saturday by immigration at Valley International Airport in Harlingen and is being kept at a detention facility in El Valle, according to a GoFundMe page set up by a friend to help with legal fees.

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Roberto Cadilha, the band's manager, said Posada's DACA was already in the process of being renewed when she was detained. But she had not yet received the physical document, he added.

"They don't care if it's in the system," Cadilha said. "They want to see the document."
^the reason "undocumented" os more accurate than the conservative slur that uses "illegal" as a noun.
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Ike Bana » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:05 am wrote:Seems to me ICE has pretty much been trash all along. So when we are rid of Trump, whenever that might be, and we have someone in the White House with a more acceptable social justice point of view, like Mr. Obama for instance, will ICE then swiftly be not trash?
:lol: what a stupid, ignorant post.

ICE has been trash since it took the place of the INS under the formation of the Department of Vaterland Security.

(They're not gonna tell you that on Gates of Vienna or Geller Report, tho)

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The Sanders immigration plan is a good plan.

He wants to remove both ICE and CBP from DHS. Good.

He effectively will abolish ICE -- commence cheering here -- but yes he acknowledges we still need something -- he would put it back as INS and once again under DOJ.

CBP he would put back under the Dept. of the Treasury.

BTW, I felt this was an issue he addressed very poorly in 2016 - one reason I preferred Martin O'Malley whose plan was much better - but this plan for 2020 is pretty good.

As he won't be the nominee, I hope whoever is will adopt some of its ideas.
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carmenjonze » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:10 am wrote:
:lol: what a stupid, ignorant post.

ICE has been trash since it took the place of the INS under the formation of the Department of Vaterland Security.

(They're not gonna tell you that on Gates of Vienna or Geller Report, tho)
Saw this earlier, wrote a response about Ike as I no longer address him, then I deleted and thought to myself:

"fuck him, I dont have time for this"

:rofl:

But yes, ignorant.
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Libertas » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:28 pm wrote: Saw this earlier, wrote a response about Ike as I no longer address him, then I deleted and thought to myself:

"fuck him, I dont have time for this"

:rofl:

But yes, ignorant.
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Grand Rapids to pay $190K to Latino U.S. citizen, war veteran held by ICE

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. — Grand Rapids will pay $190,000 to a Latino American war veteran who was wrongfully detained by federal immigration officials.

The City Commission unanimously approved the settlement payment to Jilmar Ramos-Gomez on Tuesday to resolve a Michigan Department of Civil Rights complaint.

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ICE arrests 90 more students at fake university in Michigan - Freep.com
About 90 additional foreign students of a fake university in metro Detroit created by the Department of Homeland Security have been arrested in recent months.

A total of about 250 students have now been arrested since January on immigration violations by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) as part of a sting operation by federal agents who enticed foreign-born students, mostly from India, to attend the school that marketed itself as offering graduate programs in technology and computer studies, according to ICE officials.

Many of those arrested have been deported to India while others are contesting their removals. One has been allowed to stay after being granted lawful permanent resident status by an immigration judge.

The students had arrived legally in the U.S. on student visas, but since the University of Farmington was later revealed to be a creation of federal agents, they lost their immigration status after it was shut down in January. The school was located on Northwestern Highway near 13 Mile Road in Farmington Hills and staffed with undercover agents posing as university officials.

Out of the approximately 250 students arrested on administrative charges, "nearly 80% were granted voluntary departure and departed the United States," the Detroit office of ICE's Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) told the Free Press in a statement Tuesday.
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Isnt our parks dept now at the border hunting children?
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Libertas » Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:41 pm wrote:Isnt our parks dept now at the border hunting children?
Yes, they are. Children and families.

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Stephen Miller type conservatives love it that all of us are paying for their state-sponsored perversion. The same perverts peddle and enact bathroom bills becuz men in dresses in women's restrooms. :problem:

ICE Detention Center Says It’s Not Responsible for Staff's Sexual Abuse of Detainees - ACLU
All 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the federal government impose criminal liability on correctional facility staff who have sexual contact with people in their custody. These laws recognize that any sexual activity between detainees and detention facility staff, with or without the use of force, is unlawful because of the inherent power imbalance when people are in custody. Yet, one immigration detention center is trying to avoid responsibility for sexual violence within its walls by arguing that the detainee “consented” to sexual abuse.

E.D., an asylum-seeker and domestic violence survivor from Honduras, was sexually assaulted by an employee while she was detained with her 3-year-old child at the Berks Family Residential Center in Pennsylvania. At the time of the assault, E.D. was 19 years old.

She filed suit against the detention center and its staff for their failure to protect her from sexual violence, even though they were aware of the risk. The record in the case, E.D. v. Sharkey, shows that her assailant coerced and threatened her, including with possible deportation, while the defendants stood by and made jokes.

Although the employee pled guilty to criminal institutional sexual assault under Pennsylvania law, the defendants contend that they should not be liable for any constitutional violations. Their argument rests in part on their assessment that the sexual abuse was “consensual” and that they should be held to a different standard because the Berks Family Residential Center is an immigration detention facility rather than a jail or prison.

The ACLU, ACLU of Pennsylvania, and partner organizations filed an amicus brief this week supporting E.D., explaining that officials wield such tremendous control over the lives of those in their custody, including through coercion and exploitation, that consent to sexual contact cannot be freely given in these circumstances. We also discuss how sexual violence in custodial settings is a serious and pervasive issue, including in immigration detention. For many years, the ACLU, various advocacy groups, and immigrants themselves have reported on the unsafe conditions in immigration detention, including sexual violence and the retaliation that detained immigrants face when they decide to come forward with these violations.

A recent investigation into sexual abuse in immigration detention found that there were 1,448 allegations of sexual abuse filed with ICE between 2012 and March 2018. In 2017 alone, there were 237 allegations of sexual abuse in immigration detention facilities.

Other reports include a 2014 complaint documenting widespread allegations of sexual harassment at the Karnes County Residential Center, where more than 500 women were detained with their children. In 2017, advocates filed a complaint on behalf of eight immigrants who recounted their experiences of sexual violence while detained in various ICE detention facilities across the country.

The Government Accountability Office reported in 2013 that officials at immigration prisons and jails failed to report 40 percent of sexual abuse allegations to the ICE headquarters. After looking at 10 different detention centers and analyzing over 70 cases of sexual abuse, researchers found that only 7 percent of 215 allegations of sexual assault in immigration detention facilities from 2009 to 2013 were substantiated, calling into question the thoroughness of investigations as well as reporting and oversight mechanisms.

Sexual violence impacts immigrants across federal agencies that are charged with immigrant detention. Most recently in Arizona, the state’s Department of Health Services, which licenses facilities that are used by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Service’s Office of Refugee Resettlement to detain migrant children, moved to revoke the license of Southwest Key, a nonprofit contractor that rakes in about a half a billion dollars to detain migrant children in facilities across the country. The state moved to revoke the group’s license because Southwest Key failed to comply with required employee background checks. At least three former employees have been arrested for sexually abusing migrant children. One was convicted, and one of the facilities was closed down following allegations of staff abusing children.
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Ike Bana » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:05 am wrote:Seems to me ICE has pretty much been trash all along.
Yes, you're starting to catch on. :)

All of DHS is trash and has been from its inception.
So when we are rid of Trump, whenever that might be, and we have someone in the White House with a more acceptable social justice point of view, like Mr. Obama for instance, will ICE then swiftly be not trash?
Hmm, there's that funny word, again. Well anyway, it might interest you to know, regarding the University of Farmington story above, Entrapment U. was started in January of 2016.

Do the math.

If you had Latino/a/x/e/@ friends or colleagues or loved ones, or any other people from recent immigrant communities -- how could you not, being from Chicago -- you'd already know that the ramp-up against migrants and immigrants that we have today is due to Obama administration's immigration policies.

Pinko commie punchable hippies from narrow focused sub-communities have been drawing attention to these policies since at least the early part of this decade; dunno where you've been on this until now. But thing is: with this administration it's gotten WAY worse.

The Obama administration was the dumb frying pan blunt instrument. The Stephen Miller immigration polices you tacitly condone by your noted silences are the fire.

Poor Stephen Miller, who is both white-nationalist-adjacent and Christian-Zionist-adjacent. He must be such a miserable man. Must be so hard to be him.

Hey, you ever go out for .pr food in Chicago? I would really love to! We don't have access to a lot of Puerto Rican grocery items here. Wish we did because I'm learning .pr cooking and from what I understand, Chicago rivals Orlando and NYC. Lucky!

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carmenjonze » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:34 am wrote:
Yes, you're starting to catch on. :)

All of DHS is trash and has been from its inception.



Hmm, there's that funny word, again. Well anyway, it might interest you to know, regarding the University of Farmington story above, Entrapment U. was started in January of 2016.

Do the math.

If you had Latino/a/x/e/@ friends or colleagues or loved ones, or any other people from recent immigrant communities -- how could you not, being from Chicago -- you'd already know that the ramp-up against migrants and immigrants that we have today is due to Obama administration's immigration policies.

Pinko commie punchable hippies from narrow focused sub-communities have been drawing attention to these policies since at least the early part of this decade; dunno where you've been on this until now. But thing is: with this administration it's gotten WAY worse.

The Obama administration was the dumb frying pan blunt instrument. The Stephen Miller immigration polices you tacitly condone by your noted silences are the fire.

Poor Stephen Miller, who is both white-nationalist-adjacent and Christian-Zionist-adjacent. He must be such a miserable man. Must be so hard to be him.

Hey, you ever go out for .pr food in Chicago? I would really love to! We don't have access to a lot of Puerto Rican grocery items here. Wish we did because I'm learning .pr cooking and from what I understand, Chicago rivals Orlando and NYC. Lucky!
We don't really have as many good Puerto Rican restaurants here in Chicago as we have good Mexican restaurants. My immigrant friends here are primarily Mexican, including my best friend who came here on his own from Guadalajara over 30 years ago, got himself a BA and an MS in clinical counseling and ended up as a professor of psychology at a local college. But there are a few pretty good PR restaurants down in Divison St./Damen Ave. neighborhood.

So your dining offer sounds great. Let's set it up right after I jam a rusty nail into my eye.

PS - We (there's that word again) actually have way more immigrant friends and loved ones from Ireland and elsewhere in Europe than from anywhere else. But I didn't figure you would be all that interested in anybody from across the pond.

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Ike Bana » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:07 am wrote:
We don't really have as many good Puerto Rican restaurants here in Chicago as we have good Mexican restaurants. My immigrant friends here are primarily Mexican, including my best friend
:lol: :lol: :lol:
who came here on his own from Guadalajara over 30 years ago, got himself a BA and an MS in clinical counseling and ended up as a professor of psychology at a local college. But there are a few pretty good PR restaurants down in Divison St./Damen Ave. neighborhood.

So your dining offer sounds great. Let's set it up right after I jam a rusty nail into my eye.
I made you no offers.
PS - We (there's that word again) actually have way more immigrant friends and loved ones from Ireland and elsewhere in Europe than from anywhere else. But I didn't figure you would be all that interested in anybody from across the pond.
Here in the good old USA what we have is an excess of subhumanity, tho.

Stop calling the cops on us.

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carmenjonze » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:21 pm wrote:
Here in the good old USA what we have is an excess of subhumanity, tho.
Here on good old RFL as well.

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carmenjonze » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:21 pm wrote:
I made you no offers.
carmenjonze » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:34 am wrote:
Hey, you ever go out for .pr food in Chicago? I would really love to!
Sounds like an offer to me. Who did you think you were talking to...Obama? :lol:

When I'm making a dinner offer I often say something like, "Hey, you ever go out to ________ in Chicago? I would really love to." And if I'm really interested I might add something like, "Y'know...that dress you're wearing would really look great laying on my bedroom floor."

But I'm making no offers.

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