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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:07 am 
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Who owns the building blocks of music?

At the end of July, a federal jury found Katy Perry and her collaborators Juicy J, Dr. Luke, Max Martin, Cirkut, Sarah Hudson, and Capitol Records were liable for $2.8 million in damages for plagiarizing Christian rapper Flame, aka Marcus Gray. At issue was Perry’s 2013 song “Dark Horse,” which Blaze, along with co-writers Emanuel Lambert and Chike Ojukwu, asserted was a copy of their 2008 track “Joyful Noise.” Both songs share a descending synth ostinato with evenly spaced B and C notes, but the two songs are in different keys and tempos. The songs also have different melodies, chord progressions, bass lines and drum grooves. So the jury’s decision to find liability over a common minor key progression has created concern among musicologists, intellectual property experts, and music producers, who claim it sets a dangerous precedent where the “core building blocks of music” could be walled away behind a copyright.

There are 12 different notes/roots in the chromatic tonal system, and four basic triads for each root —minor, major, diminished, and augmented. So, just starting with basic math, there are thousands of possible chords depending on the instrument and the number of notes within the chord. If one plays any of those chords in succession, this expands even further the number of possible chord progressions. However, even though a taste in music is subjective, most of those chord progressions are probably going to sound like shit. Just like there are all sorts of ingredients which are palatable and can be eaten, they have to be thrown together in the right sequence and amount to have the most pleasurable taste. This is why only a certain number of chord progressions are ubiquitous across pop music, with many of the biggest hit singles sharing the same ones. And it’s for this reason usually only a song’s lyrics and melody are protected by copyright.

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Here they are. It turns out it is over rap. It turns out the "music" is thin, strained, kind of sounds like traffic noises. That or a musical squeaking old farm windmill water pump. I would have put them in the "sounds the same box," I tend to agree with the jury, they sound about the same. :|


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I wonder if this will go to Patent court next. One could read that those windmill pump heads were Patent Pending all the way from the base of the tower, the lettering saying so was that large. They did not want their windmill heads to be copied.


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Yeah, an an aside, I was quite the big fan of Negativland, which had a fairly unique perspective on this question.

To summarize, they basically argued, through their music, that all musicians sample and appropriate (sometimes it just gets called "homage"), and that no one, per se, "owns" music (at least not entirely, in absolute exclusivity). Sampling is a right.

And then there was Emergency Broadcast Network. Used to love their stuff.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:16 pm 
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the earth owns the building blocks of music: sound.

humans manipulate sound, they dont create it.

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