Ginger Baker, Drummer For Cream Has Died At 80

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Ginger Baker, Drummer For Cream Has Died At 80

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Ginger Baker, drummer the legendary Rock Group Cream has at the age of 80.

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I love him.

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One of the rock groups Radio Hanoi would play was Cream. We had a choice of RH or Radio Saigon and the Archies.
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fuck

The greatest rock drummer and in the running for the greatest drummer ever period ever period. IMO


I know some will argue for others like Rush drummer Neil, but REGARDLESS of who anyone thinks was the best, myself included, this guy was FUCKING INSANE


[BBvideo 425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3yDealMJt4[/BBvideo]

You simply wont see or hear this anywhere else.

Kinda like David Gilmour and Comfortably Numb, CREATING that solo

PLEASE if you do nothing else today , watch this whole video, it is short
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Libertas » Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:21 pm wrote: fuck

The greatest rock drummer and in the running for the greatest drummer ever period ever period. IMO


I know some will argue for others like Rush drummer Neil, but REGARDLESS of who anyone thinks was the best, myself included, this guy was FUCKING INSANE


[BBvideo 425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3yDealMJt4[/BBvideo]

You simply wont see or hear this anywhere else.

Kinda like David Gilmour and Comfortably Numb, CREATING that solo

PLEASE if you do nothing else today , watch this whole video, it is short
I would argue for Keith Moon and/or Corky Laing but Ginger Baker was damn good.
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R.I.P.
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There was a club in upper NW D.C., a dancer would do unbelievable things while dancing "White Curtain".

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A great talent he'll be missed.

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The first time I heard him was the first time I heard side one track one of Disraeli Gears the winter of 1967. I was wasted and I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Strange Brew is still my favorite from Cream.

And Ginger Baker produced the best drum fills of any rock drummer...ever. Even as late as 2005 at the Cream reunion Royal Albert Hall he was still doing it. There are certainly dozens of better live versions of Crossroads from Clapton, but none of them had the pounding fills like those from Ginger Baker on this recording.

Give it a listen. He's spectacular.

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Tales of Brave Ulysses, the closest to 19th century romanticism that Cream ever got, has some awesome drumming.

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Ike Bana » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:31 pm wrote:And Ginger Baker produced the best drum fills of any rock drummer...ever.
It's really true. I loved everything about him from the Disraeli Gears years on. Both he and Clapton were role models for me, Ginger because this dandy with frilly clothes, big hair, man buns, and a girl's name was a kit monster and Clapton because he made me realize as a keys player, no, you don't have to do all that fancy stuff. This isn't Cuba and you're not Chucho Valdés so you can take your time when soloing.

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Libertas » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:21 pm wrote: fuck

The greatest rock drummer and in the running for the greatest drummer ever period ever period. IMO


I know some will argue for others like Rush drummer Neil, but REGARDLESS of who anyone thinks was the best, myself included, this guy was FUCKING INSANE


[BBvideo 425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3yDealMJt4[/BBvideo]

You simply wont see or hear this anywhere else.

Kinda like David Gilmour and Comfortably Numb, CREATING that solo

PLEASE if you do nothing else today , watch this whole video, it is short
Airforce with the incomparable Remi Kabaka, really made sure rock never forgot its African roots. :)

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Libertas » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:21 pm wrote: fuck

The greatest rock drummer and in the running for the greatest drummer ever period ever period. IMO


I know some will argue for others like Rush drummer Neil, but REGARDLESS of who anyone thinks was the best, myself included, this guy was FUCKING INSANE


[BBvideo 425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3yDealMJt4[/BBvideo]

You simply wont see or hear this anywhere else.

Kinda like David Gilmour and Comfortably Numb, CREATING that solo

PLEASE if you do nothing else today , watch this whole video, it is short
I love rock-n-roll grandpas!

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crossroads.

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rainwater » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:00 pm wrote: RoyPDX--good one. excellent.
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bird » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:51 pm wrote: I would argue for Keith Moon and/or Corky Laing but Ginger Baker was damn good.

Someone once said to Eric that Moon was maybe better, Eric sighed and explained they were in two completely different categories, that all rock drummers are in one, including Keith and Bonham and Ginger in another.

As a drummer I can assure you they were or that I agree with Eric. But Keith was great, I saw him in Oakland and there is a pic of me in the SAn Francisco Chronicle in the background of Pete's guitar. WHO DEAD was the concert.

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Libertas » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:20 pm wrote:

Someone once said to Eric that Moon was maybe better, Eric sighed and explained they were in two completely different categories, that all rock drummers are in one, including Keith and Bonham and Ginger in another.
And Neil.

[ducks]

:)

What about Aynsley? He's got to be in there with Keith, John, and Ginger?

And my baby Bruford??

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The primary difference, IMO, between Moon, Bonham and Baker is that Baker came from a jazz discipline and refined his style through a serious study of African and other "world music" influences.

So I've been thinking about posting this for a while, so here it is...we've all heard "Toad" from Wheels of Fire. I can't listen to the whole thing anymore, probably because I'm not stoned or tripping anymore. Although I really had trouble getting through it after the first couple of times, even way back then. The original studio version, the 2005 Royal Albert Hall version, pretty much any other version sound so lame compared with this...the three of them just roar right into it. The first time I heard it, I couldn't fucking believe it. Anyway...

I'm putting it up here because the first 2:30 or so is just so remarkable. I've never heard any other rock drummer do anything like it in a live recording. I probably listen to the first three minutes or so of this once every couple of months. And I hear something new every time. (Usually on my copy of the original 1968 ATCO vinyl release, even with all the clicks and pops, it's still the best.)

Enjoy...or don't, I guess...

[BBvideo 425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6lZ7EoWWjk[/BBvideo]

And just for something completely different...three of my favorite studio rock drum performances of all time, in order of my preference are:

1. Every Picture Tells A Story, Rod Stewart with Mickey Waller on the drum kit.
2. Won't Get Fooled Again, Moon, of course.
3. Deserted Ciites Of The Heart, also from Wheels Of Fire (and with Felix Pappilardi on viola).

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I knew a jazz drummer in college, and when he practiced it sounded like this, with the polyrhythms and such. Actually making musical statements with the set instead of just keeping time.

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carmenjonze » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:03 pm wrote:
And Neil.

[ducks]

:)

What about Aynsley? He's got to be in there with Keith, John, and Ginger?

And my baby Bruford??
Aynsley is my favorite to listen to and I learned how to play by listening to those first two journey albums with headphones on ... the first two Journey albums are nothing at all like the rest of

Anyone here who has not heard the first journey album titled “journey“ and their second album look in to the future is missing out on some of the best recorded rock in history
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Ike Bana » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:25 am wrote:The primary difference, IMO, between Moon, Bonham and Baker is that Baker came from a jazz discipline and refined his style through a serious study of African and other "world music" influences.

So I've been thinking about posting this for a while, so here it is...we've all heard "Toad" from Wheels of Fire. I can't listen to the whole thing anymore, probably because I'm not stoned or tripping anymore. Although I really had trouble getting through it after the first couple of times, even way back then. The original studio version, the 2005 Royal Albert Hall version, pretty much any other version sound so lame compared with this...the three of them just roar right into it. The first time I heard it, I couldn't fucking believe it. Anyway...

I'm putting it up here because the first 2:30 or so is just so remarkable. I've never heard any other rock drummer do anything like it in a live recording. I probably listen to the first three minutes or so of this once every couple of months. And I hear something new every time. (Usually on my copy of the original 1968 ATCO vinyl release, even with all the clicks and pops, it's still the best.)

Enjoy...or don't, I guess...

[BBvideo 425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6lZ7EoWWjk[/BBvideo]

And just for something completely different...three of my favorite studio rock drum performances of all time, in order of my preference are:

1. Every Picture Tells A Story, Rod Stewart with Mickey Waller on the drum kit.
2. Won't Get Fooled Again, Moon, of course.
3. Deserted Ciites Of The Heart, also from Wheels Of Fire (and with Felix Pappilardi on viola).
Thought you might like this. Mountain doing Don’t Look Around from Nantucket Sleighride at the Fillmore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfqx8PKU424" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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bird » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:21 pm wrote: Thought you might like this. Mountain doing Don’t Look Around from Nantucket Sleighride at the Fillmore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfqx8PKU424" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks bird. I like it a lot. I never understood why Mr. Weinstein wasn't more highly regarded by the critical press.

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Libertas » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:03 pm wrote:
Aynsley is my favorite to listen to and I learned how to play by listening to those first two journey albums with headphones on ... the first two Journey albums are nothing at all like the rest of

Anyone here who has not heard the first journey album titled “journey“ and their second album look in to the future is missing out on some of the best recorded rock in history
Ah, pre-Steve Journey. I'll take a listen because nothing from either is coming to mind.

Lol but re: Steve-era Journey, when I've had a couple to drink, "Wheel in the Sky" and of course "Don't Stop Believin'" are a couple of my karaoke songs. Lol I actually once got a request to close out karaoke with "Don't Stop..."

Lol one time when I went to karaoke with a choir I was playing with in the '00s I sang all these hard rock/Journey/Toto, etc. songs. My ex, who at that point was also a fellow bandmate (I know...exes in the band...disaster) was like, *offended*. She was like, why you sing all these rock songs and I was like [shrug] Steve Perry sings in my range. And turned around and walked away. :lol:

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I never was much interested in Journey. I tried but it just wasn't happening. Except for this one thing...

Whenever I hear "Lights" come on the local classic rock station (and it's fairly often), I patiently wait for Neal Schon's guitar solo. Crank it up and enjoy one of the best solo's ever. I typically don't make it through the end of the song, though.

I really never understood Springsteen either, outside of "Pink Cadillac" and "Streets of Philadelphia" which is still stunning to me every time I hear it.

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