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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:32 pm It really is fascism-creep. It's not the first time it's happened in this country's history, either.

In the current era it started 50 years ago with the Southern Strategy, which is still very much in play, right this minute.

We could see it at work in the Reagan era with the Reagan Democrats. We could observe it in the more recent Obama Republicans. The latest iteration are those grifters, manchinandsinema.

You can see it at work in Glennfs, greengrass, bradman, and Sam Lefthand's posts. One can observe MLK's own observation of so-called moderates and how they serve to court-jester in the worst of the US authoritarian right.
GOP brains exploded thru the tops of their heads all over their kitchen or living room ceilings the night Obama was elected. Every board con lost his or her mind. They could NOT believe it. They were furious (all of them here) and they were beside themselves.

How could America elect an "N" word?..but they didnt all use that word, some said Negro, some said small b black guy...I mean he wasnt even a real American, most here believed rump when he said he was born in Kenya.

They got some comfort when McConnell assured them he would make CERTAIN that Black guy would not be allowed to govern, AT ALL! They loved that.
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Instead of talking about the breaking J6 news and the damning text messages, Fox is doing this

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This isn't a news network. It's nothing but far right political propaganda.
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Drak wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:17 pm Instead of talking about the breaking J6 news and the damning text messages, Fox is doing this

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This isn't a news network. It's nothing but far right political propaganda.
Rupert and the GOP are HATED by Brits, almost all of Europe and most of the world.

A US con is in a very small minority of white Nazi's, for lack of a better term. Prof needs to tell me what word to use because they are not Nazi's and only because there is no real movement now.
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Drak wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:43 pm Innocent people don't ignore subpeonas, plead the 5th, refuse to hand over documents, sue to keep requested documents a secret, or circulate coup memos.
Why do you insist on using the truth? The board Cons do not care about that. All they know about and all they care about is that the Traitor wasn't elected. They would rather be lied to than accept that truth.
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Drak wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:43 pm Innocent people don't ignore subpeonas, plead the 5th, refuse to hand over documents, sue to keep requested documents a secret, or circulate coup memos.
And here is the problem with that. MAGA, board cons, etc, over 50 maybe 60 million Americans aka GOP voters do not care that they are lying and are criminals. They want that. They know they are fascists. They love that.
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Libertas wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:16 pm GOP brains exploded thru the tops of their heads all over their kitchen or living room ceilings the night Obama was elected.
Well, it wasnt just GOP brains. It was the PUMA karens, the supposed progressives on RFL who referred to BHO as "Barack HUSSEN Obama," the Harriet Christian karens, and the ones around here act like we're too dumb to remember something that happened in the '00s.

All anyone has to do is track the history of these confederate white supremacists.

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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:00 pm Well, it wasnt just GOP brains. It was the PUMA karens, the supposed progressives on RFL who referred to BHO as "Barack HUSSEN Obama," the Harriet Christian karens, and the ones around here act like we're too dumb to remember something that happened in the '00s.

All anyone has to do is track the history of these confederate white supremacists.

It's not just against Black people. It's against every person who is not like themselves and doesn't want to be.
Like an infant has a say so in its own naming. "Mom, Dad I want to you give me that will really piss off Republicans when I run for President."

Cons focused on his middle name, given at birth as if it meant something.
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And James Brown did six years for what?

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Libertas wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:19 pm Rupert and the GOP are HATED by Brits, almost all of Europe and most of the world.

A US con is in a very small minority of white Nazi's, for lack of a better term. Prof needs to tell me what word to use because they are not Nazi's and only because there is no real movement now.
There is a real movement now. Movements are a concept from the 20th century that has to be reconstructed for the 21st. They don't start when people assemble in the streets to hear and follow charismatic leaders. They start online when people start informal online groups using the latest sexy word games. Thinking is way more visual now, and words seldom mean the same things as they would in the dictionary or as they're used by other groups. Everything becomes symbolic.

Internet is now part of the media. Citizen journalism, and all that. If we're going to win, we need to win in the media, and to do that, we have to think like the media and beat them at their own game. We were good at this once. We can be again. We invented the game.

Rachel Maddow's show was a good example of how to do this. It built a following with a common vocabulary. Stephanie Miller did something similar, on a smaller scale but with some really potent verbal bombs. Who can forget lying sacks of crap? Silly, but in an audio-visual culture silly is usually the way into the deeper thoughts.

This is how you win in the 21st century.
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ZoWie wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:51 am There is a real movement now. Movements are a concept from the 20th century that has to be reconstructed for the 21st. They don't start when people assemble in the streets to hear and follow charismatic leaders. They start online when people start informal online groups using the latest sexy word games. Thinking is way more visual now, and words seldom mean the same things as they would in the dictionary or as they're used by other groups. Everything becomes symbolic.

Internet is now part of the media. Citizen journalism, and all that. If we're going to win, we need to win in the media, and to do that, we have to think like the media and beat them at their own game. We were good at this once. We can be again. We invented the game.

Rachel Maddow's show was a good example of how to do this. It built a following with a common vocabulary. This is how you win in the 21st century.
If a democrat was accused of what we know trump did and that dem was arrested, the media would not say it was political. But if traitor trump is indicted the MSM will say "but is it political?" about ten thousand times.

I wish I knew how to fix that.
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I don't think all conservatives are fascists or "Nazis" but ... if they were fans of Trump, they tended to score high on what poli-sci folks call the authoritarian personality scale, i.e. they prefer authoritarian leaders.

(Don't take my word for this as always: there's substantive research on it.)

When people ask me, "Was Trump a fascist" ... eh, no, but as a leader I would very much compare him to Berlusconi. Both very much right-populist authoritarians. People who knew how to "work" the media. You could call that fascist-lite, I think that's good enough. He shares tendencies with Putin, Duterte, Orban, and Erdogan... all leaders he frequently praised & embraced. The weird case is Kim in North Korea and I think they became best buds because they are authoritarians simply on different sides of a horseshoe.
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Libertas wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:19 pm Rupert and the GOP are HATED by Brits, almost all of Europe and most of the world.

A US con is in a very small minority of white Nazi's, for lack of a better term. Prof needs to tell me what word to use because they are not Nazi's and only because there is no real movement now.
Well..the Nazi's are Nazis, and neo-Nazis like the National Socialist Movement, Atomwaffen Division, racist skinheads, and mostly all of these freaks in this database, are conservatives.

So, there's that.
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Q-Publicans are Anti-American. Q-Publicans are Anti-Democracy. Q-Publicans are Pro-Fascist. Q-Publicans are Pro-Nazi.
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marindem01 wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:16 pm Q-Publicans are Anti-American. Q-Publicans are Anti-Democracy. Q-Publicans are Pro-Fascist. Q-Publicans are Pro-Nazi.
Q is a bad joke that the dynamics of the Internet turned into a millennarian cult. It's all rather silly, really, but it must now be taken seriously. It's the perfect example of how political movements achieve critical mass in the 2020s.

I'm not saying that the way to get back on top is to start a joke, because you never know what's going to become viral. It's an insight, though. What happened with Q should serve as an example that gives us an insight into the process by which masses of cognitively dissonant people are rallied to any cause, no matter how silly they might seem. In another previous incarnation, I called it "recapturing an audience." The audience has since been recaptured, for better or worse. Now we deal.
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Oh look, Russia donned their CCCP hockey jerseys against Finland

https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/statu ... 3705661440


This is who the GOP is in bed with.
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I wonder if the cons here support congressman Gallego against the Russians


https://www.businessinsider.in/politics ... 329257.cms

Ruben Gallego, an Arizona Democrat, had just five words for a Russian politician who reportedly called for his kidnapping in response to the congressman's support for Ukraine.

On Wednesday, Aleksei Zhuravlyov, a member of State Duma and chairman of the nationalist Rodina party, suggested kidnapping and imprisoning Gallego, who has called for more support for Ukraine after a recent trip to the country, a trip that came Russian military activity stirs fears it may invade, The Daily Beast reported.
https://twitter.com/rubengallego/status ... 77637?s=21

The former marine tweeted to the Russian punk “fuck around and find out” with a picture of the American flag.

We know repubs have a new found love for Russians over American patriots, I wonder how they feel about this?
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Huh, no cons chiming in?

Say what cons? Support Gallego? Or the russians?
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https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... der-report

Thousands of Russian troops withdrawing from Ukraine border: report
If Putin wanted America to really implode, all he has to do is invade Ukraine, at which point most or nearly most, half or more of the repub party would openly SUPPORT Russia over America so as to oppose Joe and we would implode, possibly. Trump would have to show his real colors too, which of course are not red, white and blue.
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Libertas wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 2:00 pm https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... der-report




If Putin wanted America to really implode, all he has to do is invade Ukraine, at which point most or nearly most, half or more of the repub party would openly SUPPORT Russia over America so as to oppose Joe and we would implode, possibly. Trump would have to show his real colors too, which of course are not red, white and blue.
Ain't that the truth. republicans complained loudly when Biden pulled us out of Afghanistan but they strangely silent about Putin pulling troops away from the Ukraine. Makes you go ummmm?
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Watch what happens when the American President doesn't kiss Putin ass.
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ProfX wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 2:09 pm Watch what happens when the American President doesn't kiss Putin ass.
Putin misses the old Communist Soviet Union. I wonder when Trump kissed Putin's ass whether Trump's lips turned red or brown.
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Number6 wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 2:11 pm Putin misses the old Communist Soviet Union. I wonder when Trump kissed Putin's ass whether Trump's lips turned red or brown.
If that's the case why is he leading his county back to the way it was during the pre-communist revolution period when it was an Orthodox Church dominated conservative oligarchy based on the fine principles of ruthless robber baron capitalism?
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Donald Trump just endorsed Viktor Orban. Orban is an anti-Semitic, racist, authoritarian despot who has crushed democratic institutions in Hungary, attacked the free press, and politicized rule of law. No wonder Trump likes him.

Putin wants all his puppets to support one another. Tucker Carlson has been pushing Orban for some time, and even went to Hungry a few months back to do a piece on him.

True Americans who believe in America and democracy, do NOT support vile dictators, the way Trump does.
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Drak wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:03 pm Brian Klaas - Verified
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Donald Trump just endorsed Viktor Orban. Orban is an anti-Semitic, racist, authoritarian despot who has crushed democratic institutions in Hungary, attacked the free press, and politicized rule of law. No wonder Trump likes him.

Putin wants all his puppets to support one another. Tucker Carlson has been pushing Orban for some time, and even went to Hungry a few months back to do a piece on him.

True Americans who believe in America and democracy, do NOT support vile dictators, the way Trump does.
I just posted this also somewhere. Cons on this board support guys like this, dont know why...
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