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Glennfs wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:04 am Why can't you ever engage in a civil conversation about things?
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He's your Governor Z & Numbers he's totally right on point

Newsom: Democrats getting ‘destroyed’ on messaging

California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said Democrats are getting “destroyed” on messaging and “crushed on narrative” with the November midterms less than a week away.

“We’re getting crushed on narrative. We’re going to have to do better in terms of getting on the offense and stop being on the damn defense,” Newsom told CBS News chief Washington correspondent Major Garrett in an interview that aired Wednesday.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3 ... messaging/
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:07 am Notice how those numbers are being ignored by our progressive friends.
Even though they want to make this the United States of California.
A country where the party in power holds 100pct of the power. Where the minority party need not show up, because they will have no voice.
Well, it’s the independent voter that really decides who is in office.
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ap215 wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:31 pm He's your Governor Z & Numbers he's totally right on point

Newsom: Democrats getting ‘destroyed’ on messaging

California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said Democrats are getting “destroyed” on messaging and “crushed on narrative” with the November midterms less than a week away.

“We’re getting crushed on narrative. We’re going to have to do better in terms of getting on the offense and stop being on the damn defense,” Newsom told CBS News chief Washington correspondent Major Garrett in an interview that aired Wednesday.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3 ... messaging/
Because literally SAYING they will take your SS is not enough.

I agree with Newsom.

I dont know what they can do now, and I would like Gavin to make specific examples of what to do. Because literally when they say we will vote EVERY YEAR on whether or not you will get your SS check and Medicare, it still doesnt matter.

BE SPECIFIC Gavin...
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:07 am
A country where the party in power holds 100pct of the power. Where the minority party need not show up, because they will have no voice.
You sound like a complete lunatic. Your party attempted a coup to install a dictator for life. Your party is attempting to install its own electors to decide elections instead of the People. Everything with you is projection. Sit the fuck down.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:04 am Why can't you ever engage in a civil conversation about things?
Are you so lazy that all you have is the evil white argument.
What a fucking hypocrite, and right in your very statement.


Nobody here owes you jack squat. There's enough civility that you're allowed to post on this board and people interact with you. This is a liberal message board. If any of us posted on one of the RW message boards you frequent, we'd be banned just for stating we were liberal.

You come in here every day just to argue and be contrary with people on this board, attack liberals and troll. Then you cry and demand "civility" and play the victim card. You constantly label people here extremists, socialists or communists. You don't review any links given to you. Most of the time you don't post links when asked and you don't read your own links when you do. You vote for and proudly support election deniers and seditionists. No one here owes you anything.
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Drak wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:23 pm What a fucking hypocrite, and right in your very statement.


Nobody here owes you jack squat. There's enough civility that you're allowed to post on this board and people interact with you. This is a liberal message board. If any of us posted on one of the RW message boards you frequent, we'd be banned just for stating we were liberal.

You come in here every day just to argue and be contrary with people on this board, attack liberals and troll. Then you cry and demand "civility" and play the victim card. You constantly label people here extremists, socialists or communists. You don't review any links given to you. Most of the time you don't post links when asked and you don't read your own links when you do. You vote for and proudly support election deniers and seditionists. No one here owes you anything.
Banned, hell we would be doxed and hunted down.

This person you are speaking to is going to defend the GOP when they claim approximately 40 million votes cast prior to election day are fraudulent. And it will defend what happens after that, civil unrest.
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carmenjonze wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:36 am Put that hemp rope away.

Oppressors demanding civility from their targets is a supremacist act.
That remark of con was sincere, con actually is befuddled at why you especially but any of us are so upset at our democracy ending.

Think about what that says.

News says suburban Women moving to GOP...if true, I would love to ask them why...when they say the economy, I would love to talk to them again in 2 yrs after the fascists destroy everything.
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Libertas wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:35 pm That remark of con was sincere, con actually is befuddled at why you especially but any of us are so upset at our democracy ending.
Conservative whites are very threatened by so-called minorities who aren't afraid of them.

It refutes their sense of innate supremacy and superiority, just as the hated concept of equality before the law/no special rightw for whites, does.

But I could really GAS about how they feel about us.
Think about what that says.

News says suburban Women moving to GOP...if true, I would love to ask them why...when they say the economy, I would love to talk to them again in 2 yrs after the fascists destroy everything.
Moving to GOP?

They have always voted majority GOP. They will again, next week, too.
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carmenjonze wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:47 pm Conservative whites are very threatened by so-called minorities who aren't afraid of them.

It refutes their sense of innate supremacy and superiority, just as the hated concept of equality before the law/no special rightw for whites, does.

But I could really GAS about how they feel about us.



Moving to GOP?

They have always voted majority GOP. They will again, next week, too.
They made it sound like this was a new thing
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Libertas wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:26 pm They made it sound like this was a new thing
Yea. That person cannot be trusted to tell the truth about the blueness of the sky. These conservatives are so corrupt.
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carmenjonze wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:08 pm Yea. That person cannot be trusted to tell the truth about the blueness of the sky. These conservatives are so corrupt.
Every dem who wins, no matter where, will be in grave physical danger as cons will seek to harm or kill any dem who wins.
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Libertas wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:51 pm Every dem who wins, no matter where, will be in grave physical danger as cons will seek to harm or kill any dem who wins.
Yes it's already started, right across town from me. :(

Poor Paul. What kind of person does that to an 80+ year old man, wtf.

This is the textbook definition of domestic terrorism, white-con style. :evil:
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Libertas wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:51 pm Every dem who wins, no matter where, will be in grave physical danger as cons will seek to harm or kill any dem who wins.
You mean like that we'll known democrat Steve Scalise. The only reason there weren't 8 or 9 maybe more dead Republicans that day is because the liberal activist didn't know how to shoot
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:00 pm You mean like that we'll known democrat Steve Scalise.
No, like Nancy Pelosi, Paul Pelosi, AOC, the Squad, alsharptonjessejackson, trans girls in sports, Tinky Winky, Black Mermaids, and anyone else you supremacists intend to eliminate for not wanting to live your shitty race-paranoid miserable life.

You guys keep trying it. I know how offensive it is when we defend ourselves from your aggressions and violence.
The only reason there weren't 8 or 9 maybe more dead Republicans that day is because the liberal activist didn't know how to shoot
David Duke minus the facelift and blond dye job was saved by a Black lesbian police officer. Like you, he’s just another white supremacist ingrate, intent on forcing her back into second-class citizenship.

Wake me when you run and wag your fingers at him about civility.

Only civility you stupid confederates are able to muster is civil wars.
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carmenjonze wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:11 pm No, like Nancy Pelosi, Paul Pelosi, AOC, the Squad, alsharptonjessejackson, trans girls in sports, Tinky Winky, Black Mermaids, and anyone else you supremacists intend to eliminate for not wanting to live your shitty race-paranoid miserable life.

You guys keep trying it. I know how offensive it is when we defend ourselves from your aggressions and violence.



David Duke minus the facelift and blond dye job was saved by a Black lesbian police officer. Like you, he’s just another white supremacist ingrate, intent on forcing her back into second-class citizenship.

Wake me when you run and wag your fingers at him about civility.

Only civility you stupid confederates are able to muster is civil wars.
Of course my point is you folks on the left need to climb down off the cross as violence knows no political bounds
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:24 am Of course my point is you folks on the left need to climb down off the cross as violence knows no political bounds
Conservative whites are the one and only demographic that has the history of violent vigilante groups like the KKK on the police force, on the school board, in the statehouse, in the governorships, and in the presidency.

Conservative whites are the one and only voting bloc that has used this public-vigilante partnership to enforce housing segregation, school segregation, Indian boarding schools, eugenics boards, tea parties, Charlottesville, alt-right, MAGA, and Jan. 6th.

You guys have been doing this since the Reconstruction era. You personally endorse all of it by voting for Steve Bannon and white-nationalist candidates.
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People reflexively tune out ads. The ads get ever grabbier, but the fact remains that people don't like being bombarded. It's why we hate elections. Fess up now, you hate elections too, don't you? Everything gets turned up to 11 and smart people reflexively tune out.

It's worse in California because of the propositions. The initiative process was a progressive reform, but commerce and shady political manipulation turned it into a drag on the whole state. We've been getting bombarded for six months now with a bunch of crap about how sports betting on your cell phone will or won't usher in The Promised Land. First they tried to make it about the Indians/Native Americans/Indigenous Peoples, with the homeless thrown in for extra buzz, but it was really always about letting a few big companies get our money in yet one more new way. It only convinced me that the initiative process is broken, but I already knew that.

Elections should not be such a pain in the ass. The whole thing is broken.
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ZoWie wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:54 am People reflexively tune out ads. The ads get ever grabbier, but the fact remains that people don't like being bombarded. It's why we hate elections. Fess up now, you hate elections too, don't you? Everything gets turned up to 11 and smart people reflexively tune out.

It's worse in California because of the propositions. The initiative process was a progressive reform, but commerce and shady political manipulation turned it into a drag on the whole state. We've been getting bombarded for six months now with a bunch of crap about how sports betting on your cell phone will or won't usher in The Promised Land. First they tried to make it about the Indians/Native Americans/Indigenous Peoples, with the homeless thrown in for extra buzz, but it was really always about letting a few big companies get our money in yet one more new way. It only convinced me that the initiative process is broken, but I already knew that.

Elections should not be such a pain in the ass. The whole thing is broken.
It is broken and the only way to fix it is for the two parties to agree. That ain’t gonna happen.
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We're in trouble if the parties agree on everything, and I wouldn't want that, because it would mean that people aren't thinking. It's inherent to a two-party system for the parties to offer alternatives. There's nothing wrong with that.

The problem is more that confrontation has replaced debate. This has happened before, like in the Vietnam war era, and it always leads to violence and unhappy people with a lot of hate back and forth. It's a shitty way to live.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:17 pm It is broken and the only way to fix it is for the two parties to agree.
:?

That's the only way, according to...?
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Julia Davis @JuliaDavisNews - Verified

Meanwhile in Russia: Kremlin-funded state TV explains why they're rooting for MAGA Republicans in the midterms and reveal the key talking points their trolls and useful idiots will be spreading to undermine Biden and the Democrats.

Video at link

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/stat ... 3868297217
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ZoWie wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:52 pm We're in trouble if the parties agree on everything, and I wouldn't want that, because it would mean that people aren't thinking. It's inherent to a two-party system for the parties to offer alternatives. There's nothing wrong with that.

The problem is more that confrontation has replaced debate. This has happened before, like in the Vietnam war era, and it always leads to violence and unhappy people with a lot of hate back and forth. It's a shitty way to live.
Bipartisanship Yeah i hear you Z that bothers me too there has been a trend of too much compromising in Congress for years.
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Right now Congress is in a phase where whichever party gets control tries to enact its entire agenda, and the other party blocks it. The Republicans kept the filibuster to stop the Democratic agenda, while they finished taking over the Supreme Court. A surprising amount of Biden's agenda got through anyway. It didn't stop the media from blaming Biden for everything that went wrong anywhere on the planet.

Now, everything's about inflation, but no one explains its real causes. It's all Biden's fault, of course, or so they say. It's all buzzwords and dueling agendas. The Republicans probably will get control of Congress out of all their rabble rousing and blame shifting. BFD. The filibuster and the other stuff will be used to stall Republican bills too.

The current alignment is a recipe for paralysis, which might actually beat the current Republican agenda. I can't find much there, except for more provocation and grabby one-liners intended to distract everyone from their real goal. This is to pay off off the fat cats who have bankrolled all their efforts to negate the late 20th century achievements in putting America's inclusion policy where its rhetoric has always been.

It all guarantees more political violence and polarization in the short term. I see no hope whatsoever to avoid this. My hope is that eventually the country tires of it all and regresses to the mean.
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